Poll of the Day > Trump says White Supremacists are NOT involved and ANTIFA are TERRORISTS!!!

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President Blob told Fox and Friends that he BELIEVED there weren't any WHITE SUPREMACIST groups mixed in with those protesting with the death of George Floyd and blamed anti-fascist left-wing group "ANTIFA" for the violent outbreaks and has put them on the terrorist watch list while denouncing any kind of threats from White Supremacists!!

He said "I dont see any indication that there any white supremacist groups mixing in. This is an ANTIFA Organization. it seems that the first time we saw it in a major way was Occupy Wall Street. It's the same mindset"

His tweet Monday was his first reaction this morning after a week of protests over the death of George Floyd and still has not publicly made any kind of unity message or message of hope to change law enforcement while instead threatens to install the US MILITARY to enforce LAW AND ORDER on the protesters causing further outrage.

He blamed ANTIFA and Democratic Govenors for being weak on the violence and though Gov.Tim Walz suggested white supremacists had infiltrated Black Lives Matters demonstrators to cause chaos, he said "My suspicions and what i've seen on this, yes. It get worse than that. The cartels are wondering if there was a break in their drug transmissions are trying to take advantage of the chaos. That's why this situation is on a federal level"

Minnesota's Dept of Corrections Commissioner Paul Schnell echoed the statement and said white supremacists were attending demonstrations in Minneapolis and St. Paul and described them as "agitators".

There is now an investigation into white nationalist groups that have posted to their memberships online and told supporters to cause chaos to further cause the divide

Do you believe far-right white supremacist groups are a terrorist group?

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White nationalist group posing as antifa called for violence on Twitter

https://www.nbcnews.com/tech/security/twitter-takes-down-washington-protest-disinformation-bot-behavior-n1221456

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mrduckbear posted...

This is an ANTIFA Organization. it seems that the first time we saw it in a major way was Occupy Wall Street. It's the same mindset"

While I'm sure there's some overlap between membership, the two events are kinda unconnected afaik. Although Occupy comported itself illegally at times, I can't recall it being linked to violence.

mrduckbear posted... Do you believe far-right white supremacist groups are a terrorist group?

Some of them probably are.

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The rioters are a combination of far-left anarchists who want to take down the government and far-right racists who want to start a second civil war.
And the peaceful protestors are caught in the middle, with the police attacking everyone because they (rightfully) can't tell who's who.
It's fucking disgusting. People are shit.

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Trump might be fucking himself hard on this one as all of his supporters that I have talked to understand why this is happening.

The worst I got was one of them saying that its sad what happened to that kid(dude was like 46, wtf?) but that the riots were crap.

I am not delusional, though. Now that the Orange Man has officially made a speech on his stance I expect his followers to change their tune, and follow suit.

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But the white nationalists are there. I think I even saw some videos supposed to show police mixing in with protestors trying to stir shit.

Clearly, it's only antifa. All the white supremacists are nice guys.

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What is their political motivation?

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zebatov posted...

What is their political motivation?

They wanna stir shit up, make the protestors look bad, and destabilize the government.

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How are they not?

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Zareth posted...

They wanna stir shit up, make the protestors look bad, and destabilize the government.

Hmmm. But if Antifa is left wing... and the left wing is friendlier to those of color... and the protests are about a systemic injustice against those of color... then why does Antifa want to make the protestors look bad again?


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far right and far left
they are inflicting pain and punishment onto society in general.

HornedLion posted...

Hmmm. But if Antifa is left wing... and the left wing is friendlier to those of color... and the protests are about a systemic injustice against those of color... then why does Antifa want to make the protestors look bad again?

They're not, it's the white supremacists and cops who are starting shit.

An agent provocateur (French for "inciting agent") is a person who commits or who acts to entice another person to commit an illegal or rash act or falsely implicate them in partaking in an illegal act, so as to ruin the reputation or entice legal action against the target or a group they belong to. An agent provocateur may be a member of a law enforcement agency acting out of their own sense of duty or under orders, or other entity. They may target any group, such as a peaceful protest or demonstration, a union, a political party or a company.

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HornedLion posted...

Hmmm. But if Antifa is left wing... and the left wing is friendlier to those of color... and the protests are about a systemic injustice against those of color... then why does Antifa want to make the protestors look bad again?

antifa wants to use the BLM movement for their own personal gain to overthrow trump. their beliefs dont fully line up with many of the blacks protesting. theyre instigators trying to make this more violent then what it should be in the end you could see more black lives being lost or their neighborhoods destroyed

teddy241 posted...

antifa wants to use the BLM movement for their own personal gain to overthrow trump. their beliefs dont fully line up with many of the blacks protesting. theyre instigators trying to make this more violent then what it should be in the end you could see more black lives being lost or their neighborhoods destroyed

You seem to know a lot about Antifa and their intentions.

Either A) youre one of them or B) youre not but just are well informed about their intentions.

Have a source?


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captpackrat posted...

They're not, it's the white supremacists and cops who are starting shit.

An agent provocateur (French for "inciting agent") is a person who commits or who acts to entice another person to commit an illegal or rash act or falsely implicate them in partaking in an illegal act, so as to ruin the reputation or entice legal action against the target or a group they belong to. An agent provocateur may be a member of a law enforcement agency acting out of their own sense of duty or under orders, or other entity. They may target any group, such as a peaceful protest or demonstration, a union, a political party or a company.

Oh? So like these ones weve seen on tape with our very eyes.

But wait a minute, Capt. Weve all seen these agent provocateurs, videos of them have even been posted here... can you explain how some folks still believe its Antifa?


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I like how virtually every instance of a "MAGA attack" has been dismissed as a false flag operation since Smollet's shenanigans, but the same people seem to consider every instance of vandalism and whatnot associated with BLM to be legitimately representative of the entire protest.

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Im sure there probably is a little of this going on (white supremacist POSs getting into the mix and stirring things up). And when I say a little I mean a very small amount.
But the notion that they account for a large swath of these riots is just plain ridiculous. This circle the wagons effort by folks on the left to try and deflect; people see right through it. Antifa is largely involved here (likely with some backing from Soros). And also lets not pretend that a lot of this is just random people looting and rioting too.

You can try and spin the facts on whos involved in this mob/looting/rioting/bashing all you want. But the average American sees right through it. And it aint looking good when so many folks on the left are cheering it on and excusing it. Good luck with this in November folks.

There's probably some white supremacists involved but antifa is definitely a huge problem

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adjl posted...

I like how virtually every instance of a "MAGA attack" has been dismissed as a false flag operation since Smollet's shenanigans, but the same people seem to consider every instance of vandalism and whatnot associated with BLM to be legitimately representative of the entire protest.

The intent behind this is for "centrists" to draw the line further and further to the extreme right. So Trump becomes the enlightened moderate position between Democrats and white supremacists, while BLM and other groups are radical terrorist organizations. The entire purpose of the double standard is to propagate an optical illusion of fairness while championing actual nazism.

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https://www.nbcnews.com/tech/security/twitter-takes-down-washington-protest-disinformation-bot-behavior-n1221456

White nationalist group posing as antifa called for violence on Twitter

A Twitter account claiming to belong to a national antifa organization and pushing violent rhetoric related to ongoing protests has been linked to the white nationalist group Identity Evropa, according to a Twitter spokesperson.

The spokesperson said the account violated the company's platform manipulation and spam policy, specifically the creation of fake accounts. Twitter suspended the account after a tweet that incited violence.

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captpackrat posted...

https://www.nbcnews.com/tech/security/twitter-takes-down-washington-protest-disinformation-bot-behavior-n1221456

White nationalist group posing as antifa called for violence on Twitter

A Twitter account claiming to belong to a national antifa organization and pushing violent rhetoric related to ongoing protests has been linked to the white nationalist group Identity Evropa, according to a Twitter spokesperson.

The spokesperson said the account violated the company's platform manipulation and spam policy, specifically the creation of fake accounts. Twitter suspended the account after a tweet that incited violence.

Game. Set. Match.

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HornedLion posted...

You seem to know a lot about Antifa and their intentions.

Either A) youre one of them or B) youre not but just are well informed about their intentions.

Have a source?

Or C) He's full of shit. Likely that one.

Trump is a known racist. Of course he'll excuse their actions.
captpackrat posted...

https://www.nbcnews.com/tech/security/twitter-takes-down-washington-protest-disinformation-bot-behavior-n1221456

White nationalist group posing as antifa called for violence on Twitter

A Twitter account claiming to belong to a national antifa organization and pushing violent rhetoric related to ongoing protests has been linked to the white nationalist group Identity Evropa, according to a Twitter spokesperson.

The spokesperson said the account violated the company's platform manipulation and spam policy, specifically the creation of fake accounts. Twitter suspended the account after a tweet that incited violence.

https://i.imgur.com/hDbpJRG.gifv

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Zareth posted...

The rioters are a combination of far-left anarchists who want to take down the government and far-right racists who want to start a second civil war.
And the peaceful protestors are caught in the middle, with the police attacking everyone because they (rightfully) can't tell who's who.
It's fucking disgusting. People are shit.

Dont forget the criminals happy to take whatever they want using the chaos as cover.

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zebatov posted...

What is their political motivation?

1. they want to give positive power to Trump, which Trump is looking for because hes been in such poor public favor since the pandemic. Trump is desperate to say look! These Dem states cant handle these riots. Let me send in the national guard and show you how a real man handles things!
2. The far right extremists also want to cause a civil race war. They disguise themselves as normal protesters, create chaos, and everyone will blame it on the BLM protesters. Every single person at the protests say the same things: During the day / early evening, everything is peaceful. Then the night comes, a band new group of people come in, and they cause chaos

i know that second part will be hard for you to handle because you seem to be right wing, but mostly every hardcore alt right is a white supremacist. Theyre loving this. You can call this an exaggeration but its clearly not. Trump is inches away from telling US military to fire on US citizens. Thats a civil fucking war

https://www.cbsnews.com/amp/news/twitter-fake-antifa-acount-white-supremacists-removal/

and Trump knows all this but is using it to his advantage because hes so desperate for any positive spin he can put on it

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Lets also be reminded that the White House declared Antifa responsible but has yet to provide any proof why they said this.

I'm not saying Antifa isnt involved as well because they probably are. But the Attorney General and President have declared this with no proof.

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SonyMichel posted...

and Trump knows all this but is using it to his advantage because hes so desperate for any positive spin he can put on it

No, because hes a fucking piece of shit that only cares about himself.

Even among his family he only cares about himself. He cheated on his wife while she just recently gave birth, and when he hid in the bunker, he left Don Jr. in the White House. If he has no regard for those in his own family, how could ANYONE think he cares about them? And yet you see it at his rallies. Donald Trump actually cares about us. Disgusting.

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ANTIFA = Anti-Fascist

Here are some ANTIFA leaders:


And some ANTIFA activists:


And here's some ANTIFA vandalism:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PzEBp9EV2pg

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Stalin was anti-fascist, good one bro.

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Arcturusisnow posted...

Or C) He's full of shit. Likely that one.

or D) this activity is NOTHING new for antifa and its obvious to anyone who has paid a lick of attention in the past 5 years

Zareth posted...

Stalin was anti-fascist, good one bro.

Yes, because communism is far-left and fascism is far-right.

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