Current Events > Can BLM if anti-semitism and homophobia run rampant in the movement?

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Feels like you're undermining the movement at this point

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People are gonna shit on your grammar and not care about what you're saying. It's nerdism 101.

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Some athletes and Nick Cannon = "in the movement." Fuck off with this racist dipshit concern trolling

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Is it verifiable that antisemitism and homophobia makes up 1 - 10% of the movement? What qualifies as rampant?
There are Jewish leaders that are part of BLM.

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So is TC saying black lives don't matter?

If so then that's fucked up.

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ASithLord7 posted...

Some athletes and Nick Cannon = "in the movement." Fuck off with this racist dipshit concern trolling

Homophonia has been known to be pretty big among black people for a while now. Long before all of these movements started happening. I have no idea about Anti-Semitism though.

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I'm surprised there is anti-Semitism in the black community. In my experience as a black person, most of us just see Jews as white people. Don't bother making a difference.

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AmericaTheBrave posted...

I'm surprised there is anti-Semitism in the black community. In my experience as a black person, most of us just see Jews as white people. Don't bother making a difference.

honestly It youve ever actually heard the Nation speak (which most blacks people in major cities have at some point) their isnt really a lot actual anti semitism, the nations inward messsge is almost entirely pro black to the point nobody really hears about the beef with Jewish people

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Can ALM if anti-Semitism and homophobia run rampant in the United States?

Are you also referring to the movement specifically or the entire organization.

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gamepimp12 posted...

honestly It youve ever actually heard the Nation speak (which most blacks people in major cities have at some point) their isnt really a lot actual anti semitism, the nations inward messsge is almost entirely pro black to the point nobody really hears about the beef with Jewish people

You're right. The Nation isn't anti-semitic at all. The Powers that be simply apply this false label to attempt to shut then up because they speak 100% truth on Americas atrocious foreign policy and Americas treatment of Black, Brown and Native American people in the USA.

The people in the Nation don't even think about Jews on a regular basis, let alone pose any threat in anyway to Jewish people or the USA in general.

Actually if the USA took it's advice a lot of the issues it gets itself into with Nations overseas wouldn't happen.

Farrakhans words clearly on the accusations thrown against him
https://youtu.be/Jnm441EqVpY

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^ this is such a shitty fucking gimmick

Farrakhan is a human piece of shit that deserves to be flushed

I promise you the people active in the BLM movement are not fans of Farrakhan or his ilk.

AmericaTheBrave posted...

I'm surprised there is anti-Semitism in the black community. In my experience as a black person, most of us just see Jews as white people. Don't bother making a difference.

Tbh I think that's part of the problem. Assuming flatly that Jews are white people, instead of acknowledging that part of their identity. It also ignores Jews of color.

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Tony_Biggie_Pun posted...

You're right. The Nation isn't anti-semitic at all. The Powers that be simply apply this false label to attempt to shut then up because they speak 100% truth on Americas atrocious foreign policy and Americas treatment of Black, Brown and Native American people in the USA.

The people in the Nation don't even think about Jews on a regular basis, let alone pose any threat in anyway to Jewish people or the USA in general.

Actually if the USA took it's advice a lot of the issues it gets itself into with Nations overseas wouldn't happen.

Farrakhans words clearly on the accusations thrown against him
https://youtu.be/Jnm441EqVpY

So, should we go ahead and post the quotes now so that you can try to downplay them, or do you want to do that in like 20 posts or so

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Extreme_light posted...

Tbh I think that's part of the problem. Assuming flatly that Jews are white people, instead of acknowledging that part of their identity. It also ignores Jews of color.

He's pretty clearly talking about ethnically Jewish people, not people of the Jewish faith.

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Its blm so the usual whiners will give them a pass.

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My ex leaned extremely left on a lot of issues and I got routine lectures about how people of color were incapable of being homophobic before Europeans colonized the world.

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Extreme_light posted...

Tbh I think that's part of the problem. Assuming flatly that Jews are white people, instead of acknowledging that part of their identity. It also ignores Jews of color.

How would we know they were Jewish unless they're rocking the stereotypical Jewish outfit? And even then I still see a white guy first instead of a Jewish person. Faith can be a big deal, a small deal, it can change, etc.

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CRON posted...

My ex leaned extremely left on a lot of issues and I got routine lectures about how people of color were incapable of being homophobic before Europeans colonized the world.

I don't really know what the actual history of this is in detail but I would imagine the argument is "christian influence led to a rise in homophobia around the world" and not "black people are incapable of being homophobic."

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Idk about the BLM movement.

I know for a fact homophobia is huge in the urban community though.

Yes

Some people being assholes does not mean that everyone of the same race doesn't deserve respect. If that were the case everyone on the planet would deserve nothing but a quick death.

"Run rampant" is also a pretty serious overstatement

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Antisemitism and homophobia have nothing to do with BLM. BLM is an explicitly anti-homophobia and anti-transphobic cause, and antisemitism is generally rolled into their anti-bigotry stances. There are always members of informal groups that don't live the values of the group, but to say that discredits the group means that all groups that have ever existed lack validity.

There was a ton of anti-black sentiment in the suffragette movement, tons homophobia and sexism in the black civil rights movement, and there's tons of racism in the LGBT rights movement. All of them were and are still legitimate.

The only thing that effects the validity of the core message of a group is the core message of the group.

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