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MrMallard
12/10/21 3:53:30 AM
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I know the reputation X7 has, I'm still willing to start on this trainwreck before I ever touch X6 again. X5 wasn't great, but it had some funny moments like the speeder bike stage that kills you before the "Ready" banner disappears. Or is that X4?

As meh as it was, X5 had some cool stuff like the background CGs of Sigma. X6 is a poorly translated slideshow with Japanese voice acting - no time, no budget, no care went into X6. That goes for its basic gameplay and its localisation.

X7 might at least come off as funny-bad due to the game hitting the polygon ceiling. There's no excuse for what X6 was.

But I suppose I should keep my condemnations for after I start playing X7.

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Strider102
12/10/21 3:54:55 AM
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Oh man, I feel for you.

Tbh Whenever I do a playthrough of the X games I rush through 7 ASAP.

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Questionmarktarius
12/10/21 3:57:17 AM
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I think the only Megamans I've finished are 1,2,3, and Tron Bonne.
also I cheated in 1 and 3.
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Airhammy
12/10/21 3:58:58 AM
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Strider102
12/10/21 4:07:37 AM
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You gonna play the Zero and ZX games next?

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MrMallard
12/10/21 4:13:15 AM
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Strider102 posted...
You gonna play the Zero and ZX games next?
Not for the time being. I'm not a big fan of Zero's gameplay, and the Zero games are allegedly hard as nails.

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Strider102
12/10/21 4:14:07 AM
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MrMallard posted...
Not for the time being. I'm not a big fan of Zero's gameplay, and the Zero games are allegedly hard as nails.

But...but...they're amazing!!!

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Master_Bass
12/10/21 4:18:09 AM
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X7 is probably the worst one in my eyes. I even prefer X6 over it despite all the flaws it has.

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MrMallard
12/10/21 4:22:43 AM
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So I get the complaints about the 3D sections, but I also kinda liked the one in the intro. They're definitely flawed, but I like the idea.

The 2D sections are a mess though. You've basically just gotta mash your way through. Might be one reason why they gave you two separate characters to play as, two healthbars to compensate for the game design.

Oh, and also - Tornado Tonion?!

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Strider102
12/10/21 4:23:50 AM
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Are you just rushing through stages, rescuing Reploids, then leaving the stage to unlock X?

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MrMallard
12/10/21 4:27:04 AM
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Strider102 posted...
Are you just rushing through stages, rescuing Reploids, then leaving the stage to unlock X?
I'm just playing the game

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Airhammy
12/10/21 4:28:36 AM
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MrMallard posted...
Oh, and also - Tornado Tonion?!

Much like X6's bosses I believe X7's weren't localized either. On top of that someone at Capcom probably saw an opening for puns and just went with it.

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Smackems
12/10/21 4:30:13 AM
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MrMallard posted...
Not for the time being. I'm not a big fan of Zero's gameplay, and the Zero games are allegedly hard as nails.
He plays like a mix between x and zero in the zero and zx games. You can still use a buster and there aren't sword combos that I remember

The remaster version includes saves that make the games a bit more lenient as well

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MrMallard
12/10/21 4:30:55 AM
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Tornado Tonion's stage was a bit much to start with. I might go with that anteater looking motherfucker, or what I'm gonna assume is a homage to the cyber peacock from X2.

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MrMallard
12/10/21 4:59:12 AM
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I got to the boss fight in Snipe Armadillo's stage. Yeah, this game is a total shitshow.

At least I can power my guys up, so the game will become a breeze when I level up a little bit.

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MrMallard
12/10/21 5:04:30 AM
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Does X play any better than Axl or Zero?

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Airhammy
12/10/21 5:07:25 AM
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MrMallard posted...
Does X play any better than Axl or Zero?

I'll answer that with a Twitch clip of my buddy Altima playing the game as X from 2 years ago.

https://clips.twitch.tv/PopularCallousWaterBabyRage

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Kim_Seong-a
12/10/21 5:09:52 AM
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Did you fight Flame Hynard yet?

>_>

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MrMallard
12/10/21 5:10:12 AM
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I like how Vanishing Gungaroo is in a larger kangaroo mech, because it looks like he's a joey in the pouch of a mother kangaroo. Makes sense since he's characterised as a bratty kid.

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MrMallard
12/10/21 5:18:45 AM
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Airhammy posted...
I'll answer that with a Twitch clip of my buddy Altima playing the game as X from 2 years ago.

https://clips.twitch.tv/PopularCallousWaterBabyRage
The game might be just as broken, but Axl and Zero play pretty differently. Despite the flawed environment they're all in, does X play significantly differently? Is it worth using X over the other two?

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Strider102
12/10/21 5:20:25 AM
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MrMallard posted...
Does X play any better than Axl or Zero?

Personally I'd say he plays a little better. He's at his best if you get his armor upgrades though, he can essentially slowly hover/descend through stages which can help with thing like spikes or cliffs.

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MrMallard
12/10/21 5:26:25 AM
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I'm done with this game for now, and maybe forever. I'll try to get to Flame Hynard tomorrow.

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Airhammy
12/10/21 5:39:56 AM
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The general issue with the game is that it's slow and clunky. All 3 characters maneuver about the same. X has his charge shot, Zero his saber, and Axl has a rapid fire gun. Many of the complaints revolve around...

  • Auto-targeting
  • Enemies having too much HP
  • Enemies and Reploids teleporting in as you enter an area
  • Reploids can be killed when off screen
  • X not being available at the start
  • Level design
  • Maverick voice files
  • Useless weapons
  • Hitboxes
  • Axl's existence
  • and many of the 3D aspects, among other things

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MagnusDJL
12/10/21 5:42:21 AM
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Maybe it's just because I went into it with no expectations, but I actually didn't entirely hate X7.

Now, it was by no means a good game, it was overall sloppy and had some frustrating bullshit, like permanently losable rescues and controls-related issues I think. That said, I didn't think it was a terrible game either and found it more mediocre than outright bad.

I did like how they handled chips and how they handled X's armor upgrades (they made it more like the older games where you equipped armor upgrades as soon as you got them and didn't have to wait to get all), I also really only hated Hyenard's stage, though the cyber stage was kind of a pain too, the other stages i was largely okay with and maybe even liked some them (like the warship one, that one was cool). Also the character-switching mechanic was cool.

Honestly, at the very least I'd probably rank X7 over X6. While X7 could be frustrating, i don't think anything in it matched any of the obnoxious garbage in X6, from the Nightmare system to some of the atrocious level design (not that X7's level design is exactly masterful, but god does X6 get very stupid with it)
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MrMallard
12/10/21 6:26:47 AM
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This might just be because I'm just generally not in a good mood, like really scraping the bottom of the barrel - but frankly I might just move onto X8. I've played three stages and it's all incredibly clunky garbage.

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ultimate reaver
12/10/21 6:47:40 AM
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i dont think anyone would blame you, it fucking sucks. the only thing worthwhile is to fight flame hyenard if you've never seen what that fight is like for a laugh

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Master_Bass
12/10/21 11:16:11 AM
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MrMallard posted...
This might just be because I'm just generally not in a good mood, like really scraping the bottom of the barrel - but frankly I might just move onto X8. I've played three stages and it's all incredibly clunky garbage.
Yeah, I don't blame you at all. X8 is actually pretty good in my eyes. Much, much better than X7 anyway.

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MrMallard
12/10/21 7:29:38 PM
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Yeah I jumped the gun on this topic. X6 and X7 suck total ass, and nobody should play them.

Might give X8 a go though.

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ViewtifulJoe
12/10/21 7:42:06 PM
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Was it at least morbidly fascinating?
When I played it the curiosity kept me going until the end.

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MrMallard
12/10/21 7:43:23 PM
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Honestly, Tornado Tonion made it all worthwhile. I know about the Flame Hynard stuff so I'm not going to bash my head against the wall for the sake of seeing a meme with my own two eyes.

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Strider102
12/10/21 7:46:59 PM
#32:


X8 is definitely a step up.

It can be infuriating at times though, but mostly if you try to get everything.

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ultimate reaver
12/10/21 7:48:03 PM
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i hold to it that x6 is mostly playable because its built on the bones of a good game's engine. it still plays good and has good music even if the level design was done by someone who had too much insight in bloodborne and started sprouting eyes on their brain. its by far the most skippable game other than x7 and clearly needed multiple months still in the oven before you could even begin to call it "ok" but it doesnt quite reach the level of incompetence that that game does

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MrMallard
12/10/21 7:49:49 PM
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The thing that did it for me is that games like Ratchet and Clank 2 and Jak 2 were coming out the same year X7 was. Like I can give it all the leeway in the world, but for its time it was a bad game. It seriously plays like a PS1 game hitting the polygon ceiling, in 2003.

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Kim_Seong-a
12/10/21 7:52:29 PM
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X6 can fool you into thinking it's a good game if you start with Commander Yamark's stage. Genuinely feel they pulled that one off well. Everything else feels like a bootleg rom hack lol.

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ViewtifulJoe
12/10/21 7:59:54 PM
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X6 as Zero can be fun once you know what you're doing and you know how to exploit things. Gate stage 1 boss takes some learning as Zero mind you.
I honestly think the best intro to X6 is a highly critical video of it or an embittered playthrough. If you go in blind it's basically just X5 with a drop in QA.

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foxhound101
12/10/21 8:05:37 PM
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The game does have an interesting charm but over-all is not a great game. I was actually okay with Axl. Here are four simple things I wished they had improved upon:

X being available at the start and not some whiny kid
Reploids not dying forever deaths (and off screen!)
The cyber level is the worst level if you're trying to get all the reploids. Way too confusing of a layout. This level should have been scrapped.
The final level(s) are terrible. The game's enjoyment increases if you stop playing after beating the main eight levels as the last area is just not fun and is too long.

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