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Evillordexdeath posted...

True, Spider-Man feels a bit out of place with these four heavy-hitters

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I would've pegged Spider-verse to win but noooow...

PrinceKaro posted...

So, is anyone surprised at all by this top five? I feel it is pretty much what I expected to be on the top going in

This is pretty much how i expected.

With a larger group we probably could predict the exact order.

GenesisSaga posted...

I would've pegged Spider-verse to win but noooow...

Again with a larger group I think it runs away with it. It probably has the most broad appeal.

With a smaller group I'm not sure what to expect here.

5. Luca

Karo: 3
Evillord: 5
Red: 5
Johnbobb: 7
Inviso: 12
Ermine: 20

Total: 52

Karo: The story of a young sea monster boy who wants to be where all the people are and walk around on those... what are they called again? Oh yeah, feet.
So Luca meets a more adventurous boy who encourages him to break all the rules and they both head on a quest to the dark and dangerous surface world to find a vespa scooter. Yes, a vespa scooter.
They get caught up in the everyday goings on of human society, make new friends, and enter into a silly relay race. Its like there not really that much going on yet it is still very interesting somehow, kinda like Pixar makes a Ghibli movie or something.
It all leads up to what I call the 'sea monster coming out scene', where the whole village accepts the boys for who they are, and then discovers that there were actually other sea monsters already living among them who reveal themselves too. It is the kind of beautiful thing that sadly could only happen in a fantasy story because fuck real life people.
This bit of allegory is certainly the closest Disney has ever come to having gay themes in one of their movies, although they wuss out by not really elaborating on the feelings of Luca and Alberto for each other (to me they seem a bit more than really good friends).
It is a very charming story that takes Pixar in a new direction of style than what we usually see from them, and I for one like where we seem to be heading.

Evillord: Luca might not be a great movie, but I love it. Yes the plot is predictable and the villain kind of disconnected from the main story, with the theme of prejudice being underutilized, but that's because the sea-monster transformation isn't really about bigotry. It's about the experience of having your whole world expanded by meeting another person. Luca's first time coming ashore with Alberto, and Giulia introducing him to science, are both beautiful scenes that bring across that child-like sense of wonder really well. All the characters are so easy to empathize with and the watery summer atmosphere is engrossing. Out of every movie on this list, this is the one that makes me happiest to think about.

Red: I'm just going to start here by stressing how much I appreciate a non-sequel on this list because I'm up higher on my list here and the disclaimer is almost a necessity at this point. We got a couple of fish people in human form making friends with a non-fish person working together to win a race from a too old jerk trying to win for the billionth time in a race seemingly intended for children. The friendship works and everyone finding a sense of belonging in the end was an enjoyable watch. Also I have to mention both Disney and Pixar now have a movie with a significant emphasis placed on being quiet and the name Bruno.

Johnbobb: JUST LET YOUR FUCKIN CHARACTERS BE GAY, DISNEY. LIKE YOU'RE OBVIOUSLY WRITING AND ANIMATING QUEER CHARACTERS IN THIS AND SEVERAL OTHER MOVIES BUT YOU NEVER ADMIT IT GODDAMN. Very cute movie, very fun.

Inviso: If I was not informed that this was a Pixar movie, I absolutely wouldve guessed this was a Dreamworks movie. I dont even mean that in a bad way, but rather it just didnt feel like classic Pixar, but rather something more standard in terms of its story. Its a nice coming-of-age tale for Luca himself, who follows the Disney princess route of living a boring life and wanting more. His parents naturally want to protect him from the surface world (which has a bizarre hatred towards the sea monster community), but he cant help but be intrigued. Meeting Alberto starts him on his path to overcoming his fears, but its the exploration of life in the surface world that leads to Luca surpassing his underwater bestie. Jealousy abounds, but Luca cant stop his character development on account of Albertos insecurities. Sure, the ending is a bit cliche, but sometimes a happy ending is cliche because it works and its supposed to work that way. In the end, Luca ends up as a very sweet and solid film, if not the best Pixar has to offer.

Ermine: This movie was never going to do that well for me. The whole idea... a more grounded and simpler story, along with its characters just isn't my jam at all. That being said it looks nice!

Luca just ends up being an average, predictable, run of the mill movie for me in the end, and despite a couple funny scenes, there isn't much for me to sink my teeth into.

Outlier Rankings:

Ermine: 394
Evillord: 359
Red: 264
Johnbobb: 257
Karo: 252
Inviso: 233

And now we're down to my 1/2/3 and 11.

Luca's a fine movie (I ranked it twelfth, after all), but it's fine by the standards of this list (which was...largely not great). It's very standard in what it does, and that's fine, but not the best thing we watched, for sure.

PrinceKaro posted...

Ermine: This movie was never going to do that well for me. The whole idea... a more grounded and simpler story, along with its characters just isn't my jam at all. That being said it looks nice!

Luca just ends up being an average, predictable, run of the mill movie for me in the end, and despite a couple funny scenes, there isn't much for me to sink my teeth into.

darn, if only the fish people had turned into dogs

Sorry, I'll rank it number 1 next time even tho I didn't care for it.

Johnbobb posted...

darn, if only the fish people had turned into dogs

Luca becomes Ermine's #2, and ties for first place

Luca was a very unremarkable movie.

4. Soul

Inviso: 3
Karo: 6
Johnbobb: 8
Red: 8
Evillord: 9
Ermine: 12

Total: 46

Inviso: For a long time, Pixar has been makingfor better or worsemovies that are either sequels to their previously-established properties, or movies that have a tone more befitting modern Disney than the classic Pixar style that really put the company on the map. Soul really brings back some of that classic Pixar magic, with a unique concept thats more character-driven and mature in its subject matter than anything else. I loved the characters, and I loved how the movie both takes them seriously, and takes itself seriously in creating them. Joe is a likable guy, but hes down on his luck and feels unfulfilled in his life, and he winds up dying and becoming a soul and meeting 22, who is an unborn soul that feels unfulfilled in her purpose, and together, theres just a really nice story about both characters learning to help each other grow and change. Its not the most comedic film, but it doesnt have to be, and the happy ending feels earned for both characters. It was just really heartfelt and really well-written, and I think the only thing it couldve done better was maybe having ONE post-credits sequence to demonstrate the positive changes in Joes life.

Karo: An aspiring musician ends up in the land of the dead after an accident, where he meets the personification of people's consciousnesses and Jerry as my witness I swear this is actually a new movie.
Anyway, he ends up as a reluctant mentor to an ornery soul and he has to help her find her cutie mark so he can steal her earth pass and get back to his dead corpse. When this fails, he enlists the help of some dubious spiritualists, with the result being that the wayward soul ends up in Joe's body and Joe's soul ends up in the body of a cat. Hilarity ensues.
This situation turns out to be an awakening for the both of them, Soul 22 finally realizes the joy that comes from living, and Joe kinda realizes the same thing. That chasing after a dream is not necessarily the path to true happiness, sometimes just experiencing life is more than enough. A profound examination of the meaning of existence is not what I expect to find in a mainstream animated film, but here we go.
Soul is a film that seems to be an indication of Pixar heading in a more refined, mature direction, and I couldn't be more glad. Yes, it does seem to be made from the discarded scraps of other Pixar movies, but much like an artist who builds things out of random rubbish, Soul polishes them up to become something greater than just the sum of its parts.

Johnbobb: This movie was a 5/5 for me the first time I saw it. Joe's story is compelling and touching, the music is just absurdly good (seriously, this movie has one of the best scores of the last decade), the animation is beautiful, and the message at the heart of it made me tear up pretty easily. Still, it hasn't had the lasting impact on me I expected it to, and I expect that's partially the go-to Disneyisms that hold it back. Things like Tina Fey's intentionally irritating 22 (who has a powerful ending which doesn't quite make up for dealing with the character until then) and some lame visual gags.

Red: Dead end musician almost has a fulfilling life but cartoon falls in a pit and dies and in a dumb case of confusion has to redeem a hopeless not yet soul. They have to get body swapped, he has to spend some time as a cat, and they sort of find lifes purpose isn't really a purpose. The great beyond/before are horribly disorganized for something we are supposed to believe is an incredibly well oiled machine. The later adventures in the movie in those areas end up feeling more as padding for the rest of the film. 22 can be kind of annoying and Joe consistently kind of a big downer for no reason at times. It was nice to have a good original Pixar film, even if it maybe wasn't their best.

Evillord: Probably Pixar's most ambitious film in at least a decade, Soul deals with some really heavy stuff for a kids' movie - not just the inevitability of death but the fact that some people don't want to live in the first place. I loved the parts where they were in the afterlife, and all the music-related scenes are incredible, but it did lose me a little when Joe went back to Earth in the body of a cat. Depending on your feelings toward death and purpose, this movie might end up really resonating with you - it did for me.

Ermine: A pretty good film that's brought down by its terrible ending!

I guess I wouldn't say the ending is terrible... but it's just so by the books, playing it safe. I do not think Joe should have gotten another chance at life. Sure it would be a very bittersweet ending to do... but the fact he just gets a free pass and chance again just feels... wrong? I dunno, it left me feeling just off about the whole thing.

Despite what other people say, I actually enjoyed the part where he became a cat and the whole body swap thing. I think there were a bunch of heartfelt moments that came from it and some humorous scenes as well, sure.

That being said, I was far more into the real world stuff compared to everything else.

Outlier Rankings:

Ermine: 402
Evillord: 364
Red: 268
Johnbobb: 262
Karo: 254
Inviso: 234

I definitely agree with Ermine about the ending.

And with that, the entire top three is made up of "non-traditional" animation studios. Well...I mean...Sony has some fucking shit they've pulled for sure, but Spider-verse feels completely detached from their kiddy bullshit. And Wolfwalkers/Isle of Dogs are absolutely non-mainstream animation.

It's crazy to think if I put this 2 spots higher that it gets 2nd.

And thus, the top 3 is exactly as I predicted from the start of the project.

Good job Ermine.

Soul really hit me hard because, when it came out, I was in the middle of a career change out of Music Education. Really was well-timed for that.

Zigzagoon posted...

And thus, the top 3 is exactly as I predicted from the start of the project.

In fairness 2-3-4 are all really close.

But yes this is the predictable ending.

3. Isle of Dogs

Ermine: 1
Johnbobb: 2
Red: 2
Inviso: 11
Karo: 12
Evillord: 18

Total: 46

Ermine: I go back and forth between if I like this film more or less than Fantastic Mr. Fox but it's so hard to choose because they are both so damn good. I think Mr. Fox is overall a stronger film but good god the highs of this one blow Fox's out of the water.

Part of why I love this movie so much is that it's a serious movie about animals... and it's done in a more tasteful way. Sure you have things like Watership Down and Plague Dogs but like... animals movies have two sides of the spectrum it seems. Downright depressing and gorey shit... and then happy go lucky nonsense and there is honestly very little in between. Isle of Dogs fits a bit closer to the first option, but still has that humor and charm that makes me just so happy to watch it over and over.

Chief is an incredible character. Never before have we had such a deep animal character be the focus of a film and I love absolutely every moment with him. What a wonderfully written character. Best dog.

The film isn't without its faults though. I think the side plot with whatsherface trying to figure out everything is kind of... um... unneeded? It was... fine, but in a movie like this, fine isn't good enough, and it actively steals scenes away from the main plot that we all care more about. Due to the fact that we had this sub plot, we got less time with the other dogs and as such, they didn't really feel like fleshed out characters at all. If the whole movie was focused on the dogs and Atari, I really think it would have benefited from it. You have to change some things around with the plot of the film, but I absolutely think it was doable.

Thankfully, we get enough time with Chief that he still steals the show and overall the movie is just a damn good time with many laughs and fantastic movies that I'll never forget.

Johnbobb: There's so much to love about this film. The way Wes Anderson's direction bleeds into each shot in a way animated films rarely ever attempt. The incredible soundtrack. The dark (at times, almost painfully so) humor. It takes the simple premise of a boy searching for his lost dog and twists it in all sorts of complex and interesting ways, and I adore it.

Red: Isle of Dogs? That sounds awesome. Actually you quickly realize the whole concept was horribly depressing and needed to be fixed. This was actually a movie I meant to watch forever ago and somehow never got around to watching until this list was approaching. But most of the dogs are great, and while they are given human voices we are quickly informed with the intiial trash fight, which was pretty funny, that they are still very much dogs. Granted, they are mostly awesome dogs and they go on an adveture to thwart an evil politician and return dogs everywhere. They also cure themselves from a dog pandemic because timing.

Inviso: Despite the fact that this doesnt top my list the way Fantastic Mr. Fox did (Editors Note: Fantastic Mr. Fox actually got SECOND on my list for Western Animation 1), this was still an extremely commendable effort from Wes Anderson. The movie has subtle humor dispersed throughout, though its largely concentrated towards the beginning, and becomes more emotional and sentimental as the movie progresses. It would be so easy to tell a story of a boy who goes looking for his lost dog and finds a different dog along the way, but I think the choice to set the movie against a backdrop of political activism and unrest really gives it a unique twist. Its especially topical when you consider the filming began in 2016, right after the Brexit vote, and leading up to the Trump v. Clinton election. Ultimately though, its a heartfelt story about a boy and his dog, that gets subverted into that same boy with a very different (yet still similar) dog, and I feel like that middle chunk of the movie is very strong for the development of that relationship. The beginning is good comedy with an all-star voice cast, of course. And the ending is solid, with the evil vanquished by the metaphorical boy samurai through line of the film.

Karo: A weird Wes Anderson movie about a group of dogs who live on an abandoned trash filled island and speak in monotone voices. The film takes place in a bizarre and culturally insensitive version of Japan that seems like something that would exist in the mind of ignorant Trump supporters or in the world of South Park and it honestly makes me slightly uncomfortable.
Basically our canine heroes have to escape and try to stop the mayor of Japan from committing doggy genocide with the help of an American exchange student and her white savior storyline (also uncomfortable).
But the big failing lies in the characters, of the five main dogs only Chief has any personality whatsoever. They are also all male for some reason. There actually is a girl dog who appears in one scene and who had a ton of personality. She is in the movie all of five minutes. Yay for sexism.
I don't feel any real connection to the cast like I did in Fantastic Mr. Fox, and while the movie has the quirky charm typical of Anderson's stuff it doesn't feel as novel in style as his first animated film.
I love dogs, but Isle of Dogs left me wanting more on a number of levels. It is different from most animated films and that is admirable, but the heart that drove Mr. Fox is MIA here.

Evillord: I don't think Wes Anderson has ever made a bad movie, but his stuff tends to feel stylistically and thematically repetitive. Isle of Dogs was fun to watch and the dialog writing and direction were well-done, but I couldn't help but feel like it was snuggling too deeply into a firmly-established comfort zone.

Outlier Rankings:

Ermine: 404
Evillord: 379
Red: 269
Johnbobb: 263
Karo: 263
Inviso: 242

Yeah I had a feeling, lame.

Top 2 are my #4 and #15. Sucks :(

PrinceKaro posted...

But the big failing lies in the characters, of the five main dogs only Chief has any personality whatsoever. They are also all male for some reason. There actually is a girl dog who appears in one scene and who had a ton of personality. She is in the movie all of five minutes. Yay for sexism.

Literally the whole other side plot focuses on the human girl.

Keep trying to look for things that aren't there, just like with Rooster.

She isn't part of the main story and her character sucks

Have 1 and 3 left.

Oh shit, Johnbobb coming for second place!

But given that I have my 1 and 2 left, I can't be caught at this point. I think this is the first time I've been outlier champion on one of these lists.

I will say that the movie didn't NEED a girl dog for the sake of having a girl dog. If she's gonna get relegated to background status anyway (like most, if not all of the non-Chief dogs), then the gender of the secondary characters doesn't really matter. And Ermine's right that the human story largely revolved around a female activist.

I think the initial pack of dogs being all-male is Anderson's implicit commentary on the inherent sexism of the animal kingdom. When you consider the contrast with human society in Japan, where not only a girl but a foreigner is given the social support to achieve important things, and how the main dog character Chief's positive development is brought on by service to a human master in Atari, the true message of the film becomes clear. Its title being a pun on "I love dogs" is in fact ironic, and the movie is actually Anderson's celebration of the moral progress made by human beings.

2. Spider-Man: Into the Spider-Verse

Inviso: 1
Red: 3
Johnbobb: 4
Ermine: 4
Karo: 7
Evillord: 26

Total: 45

Inviso: I mean, this is no Rango; theres a reason Spiderverse managed to break the long streak of Disney/Pixar dominance in the Best Animated Film category at the Oscars. This is a great superhero movie. Yes, we get the new Spider-Mans origin, but it still feels fresh, because Miles Morales is not going through the same spider powers, Uncle Ben dies, great power/great responsibility we saw throughout the Macguire and Garfield Spider-Man movies. Miles works as a protagonist, too, because hes out of his depth in real life, which really sells how in over his head he is assuming the mantle of Spider-Man as well. Honestly, the choice to make Peter Parker a thing in Miles universe is great, because it helps to switch up the origin, since Miles isnt forced to handle everything from scratch. Speaking of which, the introduction of the multi-verse characters is great in that regard as well, particularly fat Peter Parker, who allows for a lot of solid comedy in a movie that still has a very serious subject matter. Overall, everything just comes together perfectly in this film, and I loved watching it for the second time for this list.

Red: If there were more people participating I'd pretty much have this checked out as the clear winner. Beloved Spider-Man movie, wide range of appeal, hugely popular and successful. And mostly for good reason. You've got a bunch of different Spider-heroes from hugely varied backgrounds showing up to mostly get home while preventing the world from exploding or whatever weird interdimensional mumbo jumbo might happen. Miles is a really likeable character and the animation really works to bring all these spider-variants to life. In a world full of live action super hero movies this really was a huge standout for animation. Unfortunately it probably isn't going to help with the trend of nearly everything animated being sequels.

Johnbobb: not even gonna bother pretending like everyone on this board and their collective moms haven't already seen this one multiple times and know exactly why it's so good

Ermine: I'll just go ahead and say that I think it's impossible to hate this movie, or even dislike it.

I will say that the art style and animation took a few minutes to get used to, and that I think the side characters added in later were a bit underutilized, but that's probably all negative that I have to say about it.

Spider-Ham was awesome and I really wish there was a bit more of him.

There really isn't much I have to say about this film, it's just damn good from start to finish. The "What's Up Danger" scene is phenomenal. Other than Spider-Ham though, there really isn't THAT much for me to really attach myself to and be like holy moly I love this.

Good good stuff tho.

Karo: This is the animated origin story of the character of Miles Morales, and the introduction to the spider multiverse.
Unlike most of the other animated superhero movies made, this one actually takes advantage of the medium of animation to great effect. It has a unique visual style, hell it has several of them as many of the multiversal travelers have their own looks designed to make them seem alien and out of place.
The characters really play well off each other, particularly Peter and Miles, the latter of which becomes a spider padawan to the most useless teacher ever. The villain is complex and more than just a generic evil goon who wants money and power, his goals are sympathetic and relatable, the problem is that said goals will probably open up a black hole below Manhattan. I would have liked some of the secondary characters to get a little more development and screentime, but that is a minor gripe.
The character of Miles is exemplary, it always feels like he is a real person with real fears and feelings. Although he has these amazing powers at his disposal, it never seems like things come too easily or too arbitrarily. Plus, it is nice to see a black lead in an animated movie that doesn't get transformed into a talking animal. Don't ask me why this always seems to be a thing it just is for some reason.
Even amongst the recent glut of superhero movies Spider-Verse stands out in a way most animated films from major studios struggle to. If only more could be that way.

Evillord: The animation in this is stylish and it's fun seeing the different Spider-Men team up, but the writing is only about average for a superhero movie following a typical superhero story arc, once you look past the ultimately superficial multiverse elements. I was kind of let down by this one considering how beloved it is on the internet.

1. Wolfwalkers

Karo: 1
Red: 1
Inviso: 2
Johnbobb: 3
Evillord: 12
Ermine: 15

Total: 34

Karo: When a young girl who has been raised with the notion that wolves are evil befriends a 'wolfwalker' forest child, they way she sees the world is forever changed. Most of the adults are the usual stupid narrow-minded moralistic lunatics that human beings cant seem to help being, and not even her dad will listen to her.
Things ramp up when she finds out that she is a wolfwalker herself and she faces rejection from her town and her hunter father. This leads to a clash between the wolfwalkers and a religious zealot noble, and culminates in the greatest miracle of all, Sean Bean surviving a story.
The central message of accepting and understanding what is different rather than reflexively grabbing torches and pitchforks to hunt down societys currently accepted bogeyman is something the world desperately needs right about now.
Cartoon Saloon's unique animation style really shines here, with whimsical and intricate backgrounds that make every frame a work of art. You see so little 2D animation in western movies these days and is it good to see someone still carrying the torch.
It is a hauntingly beautiful film with compelling characters, an exemplary moral, and an astounding amount of heart. It is not only Cartoon Saloon's best film, it is the best by far. Given the general high quality of the movies that this studio turns out that is no small praise.

Red: Humans decide to be a bunch of jerks and go out to exterminate some wolves in their home and end up becoming sort of wolves themselves. This was probably a good bet from anyone to finish near the top of my list, so it shouldn't be much of a surprise. The wolves are great, the animation style is kind of refreshing, and the main characters all mesh well with each other. The dumb humans sort of get what they deserve, the family dynamic resolves and comes to terms with one another, and we get end up with a kind of somber ending of everyone needing to find a new home. It was a very refreshing non-sequel on the list that I'd been looking forward to since seeing the previews, so I was very glad it delivered.

Inviso: So help me if you guys were willing to stuff Kells and Song of the Sea into the top five of the last list (or whichever list it was), and dont do the same with a Cartoon Saloon movie I actually liked. Now, is it possible that this appealed more to me as a furry? I mean, its about a girl becoming the Irish folklore equivalent of a werewolf and just chilling in the forest with her Irisih wolfwalker bestie, somaybe. But this just told its story extremely well. The whole movie has this atmosphere of oppression as EVERYONE is trapped in these roles and trapped within the walled city, at the will or an evil leader who felt like Frollo mixed with Radcliffe (with emphasis on Frollo, because this guy wasnt a shit character). I just really appreciated Robyns character, because Im always in favor of the feisty girls who try to change their lot in life (rather than stumbling into a change in their lot in life), and I just found her character arc fascinating over the course of the film. Watching her succumb to the fear that claimed her father, and trying to force protection onto Mehb, only to realize that she NEEDED to be free herself, was great. And everything culminated exactly as it needed to, in a satisfying happy ending. I really liked this film and Im glad Cartoon Saloon learned a thing or two about pacing from their earlier films.

Johnbobb: Wasn't even slightly expecting this to be as good as it was. Initially, I had Soul as my favorite animated movie of that year pretty easily, but to my surprise, it's been Wolfwalkers that has stuck with me since I saw it. The hand-drawn animation is beautiful, and it loses the annoying side characters that Disney and Dreamworks always squeeze in, instead keeping the focus squarely on the two main characters and their friendship and conflict.

Evillord: The plot here is kind of standard and simplistic, but it's elevated by wonderful animation and two lovable main characters. Robyns first night in wolf form is super memorable and captivating.

Ermine: A bit of a mixed bag here but overall pretty decent. A movie about wolves SHOULD be right up my alley, but uh... not exactly when it's just wolf-human things. As expected, I really disliked Mebh. She gets a bit better throughout the movie but god is she annoying throughout the first half. Thankfully Robyn is a really strong lead and carried the movie for me.

Art style was nice but sometimes it was a bit off on how sketchy it would be sometimes. Some scenes would be drawn fully and others would have a clear sketchiness to them. Not saying I disliked either style, but it was slightly off putting when it would jump from one to another.

I think I still prefer Kells over this though. Despite Wolfwalkers having more magic to it, I think Kells captured those magical moments better.

Another downside... sorta, is how predictable the movie was. So many times, in my head I'm like... oh this is when she's gonna find the mom... the mom is gonna get shot after a couple tender moments here... oh there it is...

Obviously movies are going to have a certain amount of predictability to them, but pretty much every plot beat and moment I had figured out beforehand and it takes away from the impact when you know what's going to happen and when.

Still decent movie overall.

OH! Also, I was really confused at why they just stayed in the town? If things were so awful... and they were, why would they stay? They could just... leave? Maybe it was explained, but I didn't really get it.

Final Outlier:

Ermine: 420
Evillord: 414
Red: 270
Karo: 268
Johnbobb: 267
Inviso: 244

Outlier was too close to call from just looking at the rankings themselves, but in the end Ermine takes it. Everyday, even.

How in the hell did a movie about talking animals get 1st and ERMINE is the one that had it ranked last

Hell yeah 2nd lowest take that karo

Wolfwalkers is so great. From the films I've seen off this list, it's the best.

Well that settles it. I gotta watch Wolfwalkers by next Friday, with or without the husband!

Compatibilities (lower total is better):

Ermine
1 Red 420
2 Inviso 480
3 Johnbobb 500
4 Karo 522
5 Evillord 558

Evillord
1 Johnbobb 370
2 Karo 455
3 Inviso 518
4 Red 543
5 Ermine 558

Inviso
1 Red 281
2 Karo 321
3 Johnbobb 382
4 Ermine 480
5 Evillord 518

Johnbobb
1 Evillord 370
2 Red 378
3 Inviso 382
4 Karo 420
5 Ermine 500

Karo
1 Inviso 321
2 Red 356
3 Johnbobb 420
4 Evillord 455
5 Ermine 522

Red
1 Inviso 281
2 Karo 356
3 Johnbobb 378
4 Ermine 420
5 Evillord 543

Johnbobb posted...

How in the hell did a movie about talking animals get 1st and ERMINE is the one that had it ranked last

Because they are just transformed humans and Im sick and tired of that trope.

But also because Mebh sucks

Wolfwalkers is very, very good. I hadn't actually heard of it before this! Glad I watched it when I started my way through the list, since I doubt I woulda ever seen it otherwise. Not sure I would have put it top but I'd be lying if it said it was undeserved.

Wolfwalkers quickly shot up to being one of my favorite animated movies ever. Such gorgeous style and incredible, heartfelt story.

In hindsight I love wolfwalkers but ultimately think I should've bumped zucchini above it, though I doubt that would've changed anything

So, I hope this isn't too early to announce, but I plan on hosting the next one of these projects, which will be my first one since I think 1990s horror.

There are two list ideas, both of which I have all prepped and ready to go, and I wanted to ask in this topic which one would everyone prefer: HISTORY OF WAR MOVIES or HORROR IN THE 2010S.

Personally, I'm fine with either, I've actually had War queued up next for quite awhile, but if I did have to choose one I'd go with 2010s Horror just because it's my bread & butter, and I think the decade as a whole is one of the most intriguing and creative in the history of the genre.

Just let me know, and whatever one I see with more interest will be what I go with and I'll provide the full list, a proper introduction, and due date either tonight or tomorrow (well I'll reveal the list either way).

Well I might actually participate in 2010 horror so I vote that.

... Not that I have anything against war movies, but Fullmetal Jacket is the only one I have any desire to watch.

I would slightly prefer 2010s horror

I would participate in either and will vote both

Although like I mentioned on discord I've probably seen most of the horror and very little of the war

PrinceKaro posted...

But the big failing lies in the characters, of the five main dogs only Chief has any personality whatsoever. They are also all male for some reason. There actually is a girl dog who appears in one scene and who had a ton of personality. She is in the movie all of five minutes. Yay for sexism.

If the girl dog peed though? #1 on your list.

PrinceKaro posted...

some lame visual gags.

And yet Kirby is your favorite

PrinceKaro posted...

Inviso: If I was not informed that this was a Pixar movie, I absolutely wouldve guessed this was a Dreamworks movie.

Once again proving you are not a reliable movie critic.

PrinceKaro posted...

Ermine: I loved the first film and this one is no exception either.

Motherfucker, you can't have an exception in a set of two.