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g0ldie
02/03/22 1:57:19 PM
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https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ruNM6J_G-6c

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TheGoldenEel
02/03/22 2:01:43 PM
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lmfao at them still supporting this

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Prestoff
02/03/22 2:05:16 PM
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TheGoldenEel posted...
lmfao at them still supporting this

I think it's just them completing the files they already had on the game itself. We knew for sure the two DLC characters were going to be Garfield and Shredder. I'm just glad that it's "free".

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eston
02/03/22 2:06:01 PM
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I don't think that I have at any point ever associated TMNT with Nickelodeon

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Smiffwilm
02/03/22 2:07:07 PM
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So.... Raph and Donny when?

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TMOG
02/03/22 2:11:22 PM
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Sakurai Presents: *goes into detail about each move, including how they work, how they interact with other moves, frame data, and where the inspiration for that move came from*
NASB Showcase: "Shredder's up B is named Uppercut."

Even the DLC trailers for this game lack personality and feel like they don't give a shit
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g0ldie
02/03/22 2:13:46 PM
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[LFAQs-redacted-quote]

same.

I bought it when it first came out, and I've played less than an hour altogether, if I had to guess.

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Doom_Art
02/03/22 2:14:35 PM
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did they get voices yet

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LostForest
02/03/22 2:16:09 PM
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Ewww it's based on the 80s cartoon Shredder. Gross.

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g0ldie
02/03/22 2:16:19 PM
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Doom_Art posted...
did they get voices yet
nope

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AngelsNAirwav3s
02/03/22 2:16:39 PM
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Prestoff posted...
I think it's just them completing the files they already had on the game itself. We knew for sure the two DLC characters were going to be Garfield and Shredder. I'm just glad that it's "free".

Yeah I highly doubt they are making any new content, just finishing up the DLC they already had in development.

I'm thinking they made their money on the release, now they are gonna bounce after this DLC since the game is completely dead.

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TMOG
02/03/22 2:19:16 PM
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This reveal trailer has all the energy and effort of some random nobody's hastily slapped together "first impressions" video.
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Prestoff
02/03/22 2:23:14 PM
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TMOG posted...
Sakurai Presents: *goes into detail about each move, including how they work, how they interact with other moves, frame data, and where the inspiration for that move came from*
NASB Showcase: "Shredder's up B is named Uppercut."

Even the DLC trailers for this game lack personality and feel like they don't give a shit

Smash is just the gold tier standard of character trailers and deep dives. I think even Sakurai admitted that the trailers were more expensive than making the characters. NASB has much less to work with and probably goes more into depth with its move list than most other fighters in the market.

Doom_Art posted...
did they get voices yet

It still doesn't lol. This game was DoA the moment I heard it doesn't contain voices. They were banking hard on the competitive scene that they totally alienated the casual players and are basically paying the price for it. I have 8 hours into the game and I don't think I will be playing it anymore. It was fun at the beginning when there was a lot of players to play against. Now I'm going up against the same people over and over again.

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uwnim
02/03/22 2:37:26 PM
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Pretty sure Nickelodeon gave the game barely any budget and a strict deadline. So the devs tried to make the best thing they could and focused solely on the main gameplay. So it ends up as a game with no casual appeal due to lacking various game modes and voice acting.

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Tyranthraxus
02/03/22 2:41:12 PM
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I hope multiversus is good. Seems like 2v2 is going to be the standard format which might be the real thing it needs to set it apart from smash.

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Prestoff
02/03/22 2:48:20 PM
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uwnim posted...
Pretty sure Nickelodeon gave the game barely any budget and a strict deadline. So the devs tried to make the best thing they could and focused solely on the main gameplay. So it ends up as a game with no casual appeal due to lacking various game modes and voice acting.

You pretty much hit the nail on the head.

Tyranthraxus posted...
I hope multiversus is good. Seems like 2v2 is going to be the standard format which might be the real thing it needs to set it apart from smash.

It's a very smart move because it also takes away some of the pressure and anxiety from playing a fighting game, because that's one of the hardest hurdles for most people since fighters tend to be 1vs1. I really hope the game is good as well so Smash can finally have a worthy competitor that isn't an indie game.

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CyricZ
02/03/22 2:51:00 PM
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Prestoff posted...
Smash is just the gold tier standard of character trailers and deep dives. I think even Sakurai admitted that the trailers were more expensive than making the characters.
And when he switched to just deep dive presentations everyone loved it. Gonna miss that.

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TMOG
02/03/22 2:55:09 PM
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Tyranthraxus posted...
I hope multiversus is good. Seems like 2v2 is going to be the standard format which might be the real thing it needs to set it apart from smash.
If nothing else, Multiversus appears to have more effort put into it, and the 2v2 format being standard (to the extent that the playable roster has their movesets designed around it) should help it feel at least a little different from Smash, rather than a reskin.

Plus, there's the possibility of getting Brock Samson and/or The Monarch, so that's another point in its favor.
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FortuneCookie
02/03/22 3:10:46 PM
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I hate to see this one fail.

A Nickelodeon version of Smash Bros with TMNT and Avatar characters sounds like something with serious potential. But no voice acting, a poor choice of Turtles characters, and other issues kept it from achieving that potential.

What really bugs me is that April is a sexy adult again and it's in a game that tanked. Now they're likely to go back to making her a featureless teenager. I really wanted to see this game succeed if only for her.
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Tom Clark
02/03/22 3:11:42 PM
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I totally forgot NASB was a thing tbh.

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TMOG
02/03/22 3:14:13 PM
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FortuneCookie posted...
I hate to see this one fail.

A Nickelodeon version of Smash Bros with TMNT and Avatar characters sounds like something with serious potential. But no voice acting, a poor choice of Turtles characters, and other issues kept it from achieving that potential.

What really bugs me is that April is a sexy adult again and it's in a game that tanked. Now they're likely to go back to making her a featureless teenager. I really wanted to see this game succeed if only for her.
Maybe they'll put the Turtles in Multiversus so they can potentially be in a good Smash clone
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Strider102
02/03/22 3:14:20 PM
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LostForest posted...
Ewww it's based on the 80s cartoon Shredder. Gross.

Literally the best Shredder.

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Mr_Karate_II
02/03/22 3:18:45 PM
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Nobody cares though, the game was DOA and soulless.

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g0ldie
02/03/22 3:36:48 PM
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looks like he's already added.

it started updating as soon as I turned on my PS4.

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Mr_Karate_II
02/03/22 3:38:40 PM
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No game will ever be able to compete with Smash, it just won't happen. Smash set the standard for brawlers and has held the title: King of the Brawlers for a very long time.

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Tyranthraxus
02/03/22 6:26:47 PM
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Mr_Karate_II posted...
No game will ever be able to compete with Smash, it just won't happen. Smash set the standard for brawlers and has held the title: King of the Brawlers for a very long time.

Eh that's not true. Brawlhalla and Rivals of Aether carved out a niche and have the potential to get pretty big.

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Solar_Crimson
02/04/22 7:45:44 PM
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LostForest posted...
Ewww it's based on the 80s cartoon Shredder. Gross.
I mean, the playable Turtles and April are already based on the 80's cartoon series, so I'm not sure why Shredder would have been different.

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FortuneCookie
02/05/22 12:03:21 AM
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2003 Shredder was ruined for me when they revealed that he wasn't a bad ass martial artist, but rather a tiny alien piloting a robot body. It doesn't count if you're just pushing buttons. Otherwise, I'm a bad ass boxer who knocked out Mike Tyson.
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LostForest
02/05/22 12:10:49 AM
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FortuneCookie posted...
2003 Shredder was ruined for me when they revealed that he wasn't a bad ass martial artist, but rather a tiny alien piloting a robot body. It doesn't count if you're just pushing buttons. Otherwise, I'm a bad ass boxer who knocked out Mike Tyson.

If you watch past that initial reveal the turtles eventually fight the original Shredder who was a demon king that the utrom guy based his suit off of.

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FortuneCookie
02/05/22 12:12:40 AM
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LostForest posted...
If you watch past that initial reveal

For the most part, I didn't. I caught the odd episode here or there, but I pretty much lost interest when they revealed what they did about Shredder.

Thanks for the additional info, but it doesn't really resolve the issue that I have with it. Shredder is like Batman. What's cool about him is that it's just him. No special powers. No tricks. Just a bad ass martial artist. The 2003 series took that away from him.
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MedeaLysistrata
02/05/22 12:13:27 AM
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TMOG posted...
Sakurai Presents: *goes into detail about each move, including how they work, how they interact with other moves, frame data, and where the inspiration for that move came from*
NASB Showcase: "Shredder's up B is named Uppercut."

Even the DLC trailers for this game lack personality and feel like they don't give a shit


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g0ldie
02/05/22 10:52:29 PM
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ngl, them adding Garfield and Shredder like this makes me feel even worse for the people who made this game, since it looks like it was made with a small budget, and I think someone posted something once about how the developers were at odds with management because they had to put out the game with it lacking in so many areas/before it was ready.

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CinderLock
02/05/22 10:54:46 PM
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eston posted...
I don't think that I have at any point ever associated TMNT with Nickelodeon
They bought it like 13 years ago...

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ultimate reaver
02/05/22 10:55:57 PM
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are we gonna get people pretending to care about this game again?

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FortuneCookie
02/05/22 11:44:56 PM
#37:


g0ldie posted...
ngl, them adding Garfield and Shredder like this makes me feel even worse for the people who made this game, since it looks like it was made with a small budget, and I think someone posted something once about how the developers were at odds with management because they had to put out the game with it lacking in so many areas/before it was ready.



There's a game where Garfield the Cat can fight Shredder. Not an indy fan game, but an actual licensed game. And it's somehow bad?

I don't know how that's humanly possible.
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TheHoldSteady
02/06/22 12:27:58 AM
#38:


It's actually too bad that this game is dead because the core gameplay is actually really good. But they put all their eggs in the competitive basket and there's absolutely nothing for casuals. No real single player mode. No interesting stage mechanics. Not even items. Melee is mostly known for its competitive scene these days, but it actually had a damn good single player mode. Classic mode, adventure mode, target smash, multiman smash, all the events, unlocking all the characters, etc, etc. What does NSAB have? Sports mode and an obviously thrown together Arcade Mode. That's it.

Once all the competitive players went back to Smash, NSAB immediately became a barren wasteland

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viewmaster_pi
02/06/22 12:36:15 AM
#39:


TheHoldSteady posted...
the core gameplay is actually really good.
no it's not, the whole game is fishing for nairs to start a zero to death. there's no depth or nuance to any character

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LostForest
02/06/22 12:42:58 AM
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FortuneCookie posted...
What's cool about him is that it's just him. No special powers. No tricks. Just a bad ass martial artist.

Ehhhhh, gonna have to agree to disagree on this one. Him being some dumb shlub in a costume is weak to me personally. But to each their own.

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TheHoldSteady
02/06/22 12:45:48 AM
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viewmaster_pi posted...
no it's not, the whole game is fishing for nairs to start a zero to death. there's no depth or nuance to any character

They've patched all the broken NAIRs out. Not that it matters now -- the game is completely dead -- but it's much more balanced now than at released


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Prismsblade
02/06/22 1:03:51 AM
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It's a pity the game failed, but perhaps they're release another sometime down the line with a bigger budget hopefully.

Multiverse though looks like it'll be the next major platform fighter. Looks good, although I'm a little weary of the team centric gameplay. Especially for ranked mode.

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MedeaLysistrata
02/06/22 1:42:32 AM
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Just because they can't rock is a bit much

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