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AloneIBreak
09/19/22 3:35:05 PM
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Is it the social stigma attached to homelessness? Because unhoused seems like it could be less accurate, but I dont really know.

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BlackOmnimon
09/19/22 3:35:34 PM
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unhoused seems like you had a house and then lost it

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SauI_Goodman
09/19/22 3:35:58 PM
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I always thought homeless was better than bum / hobo. But now people think homeless is bad?

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Evening_Dragon
09/19/22 3:38:00 PM
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It's bullshit it what it is.

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Suolevram
09/19/22 3:42:09 PM
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To sugarcoat the word so it doesn't hurt feelings. The truth is the truth. Muhfuckers are homeless

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Kombucha
09/19/22 3:44:02 PM
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Because the world is their home? They just don't have a house. Sorry that's all I could come up with.

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Flauros
09/19/22 3:44:14 PM
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Every few years people like to shake things up and come up with new terms to refer to groups of people.

Next it will be the Domicile Challenged or something.

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Irony
09/19/22 3:44:30 PM
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I'm in-between living in houses

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Northlane
09/19/22 3:45:27 PM
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https://youtu.be/h67k9eEw9AY

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specialkid8
09/19/22 3:46:24 PM
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Over time people like to become offended by labels, so they change them to something else, arbitrarily deemed less offenseive. I wonder what they'll be called next, once people become offended by unhoused.

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JoeDangIt
09/19/22 3:51:57 PM
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Because almost no one owns a home anymore.

The truth is, just using a different word can change how people react, the word homeless has a lot of bad connotations for a number of people.
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eggcorn
09/19/22 3:53:44 PM
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Flauros posted...
Domicile Challenged
Haha

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AloneIBreak
09/19/22 6:32:33 PM
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Northlane posted...
https://youtu.be/h67k9eEw9AY
lold

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Damn_Underscore
09/19/22 6:33:07 PM
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Unhoused sounds like something a post British lord would say

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DKBananaSlamma
09/19/22 6:34:33 PM
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Unhoused is too many syllables compared to homeless or bum tho

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DrizztLink
09/19/22 6:36:34 PM
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Northlane posted...
https://youtu.be/h67k9eEw9AY
Seeing as how PTSD shows up in literally millions of people who have never seen battle, he's completely wrong here.

It's more accurate than shellshock or battle fatigue.

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11110111011
09/19/22 7:00:38 PM
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Northlane posted...
https://youtu.be/h67k9eEw9AY

Came to post this.
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Tyranthraxus
09/19/22 7:08:58 PM
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Proud zero property tax payer

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ChocoboMogALT
09/19/22 7:16:23 PM
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What do you call someone who intentionally lives in their car? They could live in a hotel or something, but why bother?

What do you call someone that lives in hotels? They travel a lot and don't bother having a permanent residence?

What about someone who lives off the grid?

"Homeless" absolutely carries a negative social stigma which creates a sort of self-fulfilling prophesy. The response to homelessness is almost always, "Why don't they get a job?" As if that question just solves every complicated problem associated with being homeless.

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Naysaspace
09/19/22 7:18:34 PM
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Because liberals think changing the name of the condition will change the condition.

Carlin has an all-timer of a bit on this. That i see was already posted multiple times.

Theyre....HANDI-CAPABLE!
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Lost_All_Senses
09/19/22 7:25:54 PM
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Because when you don't wanna deal with the real problem, you just lower the bar of helping extremely low and try to change shit that doesn't actually matter but still makes it feel like you're doing something.

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marthsheretoo
09/19/22 7:38:01 PM
#22:


DKBananaSlamma posted...
Unhoused is too many syllables compared to homeless or bum tho

You might want to count those syllables again.

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DrizztLink
09/19/22 7:38:59 PM
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marthsheretoo posted...
You might want to count those syllables again.
un-uh-hou-sed-uh

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ButteryMales
09/19/22 7:41:48 PM
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A house isn't always a home.
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RagOnAStick
09/19/22 7:50:43 PM
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I don't have a problem with it, but I don't really see why it is coming into use either. Like I can understand the switch from "mentally ill/challenged/handicapped" to "neurodivergent" because that carries a much less negative connotation, but to me "homeless" and "unhoused" are virtually synonymous
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DKBananaSlamma
09/19/22 7:54:48 PM
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marthsheretoo posted...
You might want to count those syllables again.
Un-hous-duh, e

Home-les, 2

Bum, 1

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xGhostchantx
09/19/22 8:02:16 PM
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It really doesn't matter, it means the same thing today. People for some reason think 'homeless' has negative connotations to it -- of course it does, because it has a negative suffix in -less, but so does unhoused.

The irony is that, with English being a Germanic language, technically un- is a strong-negative; meaning unhoused is more negative than homeless.

Someone who is godless has no god, someone who is ungodly is evil.

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FortuneCookie
09/19/22 8:06:15 PM
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I don't like this new term. I think unhoused mutes the severity of it.

It makes it sound like somebody lost a game.
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voldothegr8
09/19/22 8:23:04 PM
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What about uncondominiumed, or unapartmented?

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xGhostchantx
09/19/22 9:24:36 PM
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voldothegr8 posted...
What about uncondominiumed, or unapartmented?

There's a general rule; an ending sonorant (m, n), sibilant (s), or fricative (ch) get -less, most others get un-, like plosives (p, b, k, etc). Like most things in English it's just general and has many exceptions; rooted mostly in tradition.

Homelessness; but, never housedless
Unperturbed, but never perturbless

You'll notice too that many of perturbeds' synonyms/antonyms end in plosives:

unchangeable; uninterrupted; undisturbed; unthwartable

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Pitlord_Special
09/19/22 9:28:11 PM
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I call them residentially challenged

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WilliamPorygon
09/19/22 9:42:23 PM
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Because the evil millionaire landlords who cause it don't want to ruin their image with such a negative-sounding word

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DrizztLink
09/19/22 9:43:47 PM
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xGhostchantx posted...
You'll notice too that many of perturbeds' synonyms/antonyms end in plosives:

unchangeable; uninterrupted; undisturbed; unthwartable
None of those end in plosives.

Unchangsplosives does, though.

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xGhostchantx
09/19/22 10:20:56 PM
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DrizztLink posted...
None of those end in plosives.

Unchangsplosives does, though.

Ha!

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TerraSeeker
09/19/22 11:18:04 PM
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I feel like unhoused is a more accurate term. Like I have a roof over my head, but I certainly don't consider it home.

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Naysaspace
09/19/22 11:19:05 PM
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that means homeless would be the more appropriate term. most homeless sleep in shelters or in temp rooms at the sallyann (etc). That's a roof over their head, but it certainly is no home
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Sariana21
09/19/22 11:23:08 PM
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They refer to different people. A homeless person can live with friends, have hotel room, live in a vehicle, etc. An unhoused person typically has no place to live at all, ie lives on the streets.

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ChocoboMogALT
09/20/22 2:12:11 AM
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Thinking more about it, some people prefer to use "people without homes." But,
Homeless > people with less homes > people with FEWER homes
It should be "homefewer people," since the number is countable.

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omega_cookie
09/20/22 2:16:48 AM
#40:


JoeDangIt posted...
Because almost no one owns a home anymore.
"I'm poor, and angry about it"

Also, deluded.

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shironinja
09/20/22 2:17:16 AM
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I usually use the term disadvantaged person.

homeless / unhoused have too many negative connotations.

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kingdrake2
09/20/22 2:29:02 AM
#42:


shironinja posted...
I usually use the term disadvantaged person.


we're all disadvantaged. though the ones in the street are the most impacted.

city had to clear up a homeless camp that lasted 3 months because of problems. they moved them to another part of the city where there wasn't much homeowners.

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scar_the_1
09/20/22 3:12:19 AM
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Lost_All_Senses posted...
Because when you don't wanna deal with the real problem, you just lower the bar of helping extremely low and try to change shit that doesn't actually matter but still makes it feel like you're doing something.
Yeah this sounds about right. Symbolic bullshit to look like a sympathetic ally while not addressing the issue

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HagenEx
09/20/22 3:13:05 AM
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Northlane posted...
https://youtu.be/h67k9eEw9AY

This, basically.

It's fucking dumb shit that people do to be politically correct or morally upright.

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Philip027
09/20/22 3:33:31 AM
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I've literally never heard "unhoused" prior to this topic.
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sadib100
09/20/22 3:59:59 AM
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Even John Oliver uses unhoused. It doesn't make sense to me.
DrizztLink posted...
Seeing as how PTSD shows up in literally millions of people who have never seen battle, he's completely wrong here.

It's more accurate than shellshock or battle fatigue.
Did the video mention PTSD?
ChocoboMogALT posted...
What do you call someone who intentionally lives in their car? They could live in a hotel or something, but why bother?

What do you call someone that lives in hotels? They travel a lot and don't bother having a permanent residence?

What about someone who lives off the grid?

"Homeless" absolutely carries a negative social stigma which creates a sort of self-fulfilling prophesy. The response to homelessness is almost always, "Why don't they get a job?" As if that question just solves every complicated problem associated with being homeless.
inventing a new term that means the exact same isn't going to lower the stigma at all.
Sariana21 posted...
They refer to different people. A homeless person can live with friends, have hotel room, live in a vehicle, etc. An unhoused person typically has no place to live at all, ie lives on the streets.
And then we have people who claim unhoused is the more severe term, which defeats the purpose of coining unhoused.
ChocoboMogALT posted...
Thinking more about it, some people prefer to use "people without homes." But,
Homeless > people with less homes > people with FEWER homes
It should be "homefewer people," since the number is countable.
And then we have people making intentionally nonsensical puns.

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Doe
09/20/22 4:02:09 AM
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CE is weirdly reactionary about this.

Based on a quick Google search (which evidently few in this topic have attempted), terms like "unhoused" have been proposed because it dodges stigma that has collected on the word "homeless" over time and attempts to shift perspective towards unhoused people to be more sympathetic, to recognize all people deserve to be housed, and to acknowledge that houselessness is a temporary and not a defining feature of a person.

The word homeless has become inseparable from a toxic narrative that blames and demonizes people who are unhoused, according to Eve Garrow, homelessness policy analyst and advocate for the American Civil Liberties Union of Southern California. The term is increasingly used in a way where it implies someone is dangerous or devious, she said. As a result, a less charged term is more apt.
I saw it compared to the changing of "gender identity disorder" to "gender dysphoria", a renaming that aimed to challenge the idea that a person's identity is defective for their gender not conforming to the roles and presentation society expects of their sex.

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Ricemills
09/20/22 4:03:14 AM
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you can have no house, but still have a place to call home.

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sadib100
09/20/22 4:06:10 AM
#49:


Doe posted...
CE is weirdly reactionary about this.

Based on a quick Google search (which evidently few in this topic have attempted), terms like "unhoused" have been proposed because it dodges stigma that has collected on the word "homeless" over time and attempts to shift perspective towards unhoused people to be more sympathetic, to recognize all people deserve to be housed, and to acknowledge that houselessness is a temporary and not a defining feature of a person.

I saw it compared to the changing of "gender identity disorder" to "gender dysphoria", a renaming that aimed to challenge the idea that a person's identity is defective for their gender not conforming to the roles and presentation society expects of their sex.
What a meaningless post. You attempted to explain something that we all understood. We're discussing how that new word doesn't actually do that.

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ChocoboMogALT
09/20/22 4:14:08 AM
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sadib100 posted...
What a meaningless post. You attempted to explain something that we all understood. We're discussing how that new word doesn't actually do that.
Why not?
Get out and talk to people. There are people who will say "homeless" like it's acid coming from their throat. Just changing the word used reframes the problem and humanizes the people, even if temporarily. When a word becomes a slur, like homeless, or the r-word, or even something like Democrat or Obamacare, resetting the conversation helps bring biases closer to reality - again, even if temporarily as can be seen by the history of the r-word.
Edit: similarly, see antiquated words for Black People.

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