Poll of the Day > Are you addicted to pornography?

(+) Yeah! (+)

Maybe an agile person who stepped on a landmine and was flung randomly onto a keyboard

MightBeOverSoon posted...

Uh what? my poll answers were literally Yes, no, and joke answer.

And are you REALLY going to be that disingenuous and act like it would be odd to expect a video game message board to have either the standard, or higher rate of porn addiction than the general public?

speaking of talking out your ass LOL

That was a joke answer?

Blightzkrieg posted...

Now that Adjl is 40 years old can be explain what his name means

hang around my topics and you just might find out. despite ignoring him, he still follows me from topic to topic, yipping jealously for my attention.

Someone should tell him that I'm not really looking for a relationship, and even when I was he is surely not my type.

MightBeOverSoon posted...

hang around my topics and you just might find out. despite ignoring him, he still follows me from topic to topic, yipping jealously for my attention.

Someone should tell him that I'm not really looking for a relationship, and even when I was he is surely not my type.

hey bro

nobody cares even if they think whoever you're complaining about is weird too

ReturnOfFa posted...

hey bro

nobody cares even if they think whoever you're complaining about is weird too

hey bro, thanks for letting me know how important it was for you to let me know that you dont care

MightBeOverSoon posted...

Awww, so I've got another admirer who is gonna follow me from topic to topic like a lovesick puppy?

Not an admirer at all unless we have very different definitions of the word And no, I wont be following you. I said if Im around. Im not in every topic. And I jump between boards often. So, Im sure Ill miss some topics This one just happened to be a hot topic And about porn So, it caught my interest

MightBeOverSoon posted...

At least you're less boring than adjl I guess, but just barely.

And youre interesting in all the wrong ways Which isnt particularly good

MightBeOverSoon posted...

hey bro, thanks for letting me know how important it was for you to let me know that you dont care

yay!

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/9/8/7/AAUdByAAEWj7.jpg

MightBeOverSoon posted...

hang around my topics and you just might find out. despite ignoring him, he still follows me from topic to topic,

adjl responds to basically every civil discussion that is easily disprovable/discountable or topics he feels he has enough info to productively add to the discussion, either out of stockholm syndrome to potd or guy's got free time on the job

but you already know this because lol alt

agesboy posted...

adjl responds to basically every civil discussion that is easily disprovable/discountable or topics he feels he has enough info to productively add to the discussion, either out of stockholm syndrome to potd or guy's got free time on the job

but you already know this because lol alt

My experience with the guy is basically the embodiment of that Terry Davis quote.

there it is:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k0qmkQGqpM8

I'd say that pretty perfectly describes a guy who takes 3 pages to say something that could be said in a few words.

MightBeOverSoon posted...

My ex is a giant ugly idiot gorilla but I was never once was made to feel like that.

That's no way to talk about yourself, Schmen

Blightzkrieg posted...

Do you think power fantasy isekai light novels have a negative effect on society

Abso-fucking-lutely

Zareth posted...

Abso-fucking-lutely

Wat.

Jen0125 posted...

#notallmen

Or, to turn that around, some men have no problem figuring out how to be good at sex without consuming any less porn than those that aren't. Blaming porn therefore makes little sense. The common element among men that are bad at sex isn't porn, it's an unwillingness to listen to their partners. I'll happily accept that most men suck at that (though I really struggle to understand why, since it's not something I've ever had a problem with, and I'm far from a genius in the interpersonal intelligence department). It may actually be special and lucky to find a man that doesn't (speaking as somebody who's never tried to find a male lover, I can't really comment on that), but it really shouldn't be, and I'm all for calling that out. Just not for pinning the blame on something that's largely ancillary.

Blightzkrieg posted...

Now that Adjl is 40 years old can be explain what his name means

You've got another 6 years before that logic is going to work.

agesboy posted...

adjl responds to basically every civil discussion that is easily disprovable/discountable or topics he feels he has enough info to productively add to the discussion, either out of stockholm syndrome to potd or guy's got free time on the job

but you already know this because lol alt

Pretty much. It's always kind of funny to see people think I'm somehow personally invested in them because I keep pointing out that they're wrong. It's nothing personal, they just keep being wrong.

adjl posted...

Or, to turn that around, some men have no problem figuring out how to be good at sex without consuming any less porn than those that aren't. Blaming porn therefore makes little sense. The common element among men that are bad at sex isn't porn, it's an unwillingness to listen to their partners. I'll happily accept that most men suck at that (though I really struggle to understand why, since it's not something I've ever had a problem with, and I'm far from a genius in the interpersonal intelligence department). It may actually be special and lucky to find a man that doesn't (speaking as somebody who's never tried to find a male lover, I can't really comment on that), but it really shouldn't be, and I'm all for calling that out. Just not for pinning the blame on something that's largely ancillary (though undeniably related, since I fully expect that porn trends among more considerate men favour porn that at least tries to portray that it cares about the woman's pleasure).

#notallmen

Men really can't stand to have any criticism levied without saying "well not me tho right"

Jen0125 posted...

Men really can't stand to have any criticism levied without saying "well not me tho right"

That's pretty common among anyone that you criticize for something that doesn't apply to them.

Jen0125 posted...

Men really can't stand to have any criticism levied without saying "well not me tho right"

b-b-but not all of us can't handle criticism

Jen0125 posted...

Men really can't stand to have any criticism levied without saying "well not me tho right"

I can see how me saying "most men are addicted to porn" or you saying "Porn has made a lot of men into a bad/selfish lovers" would very much feel like an attack on masculinity, which can be super fragile.

https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/abs/10.1080/10532528.2000.10559784

https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1002/ab.20328

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6751001/

https://tinyurl.com/bp7d4uud
United Kingdom Government
https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk ...PDF
The relationship between pornography use and harmful sexual attitudes and ...

adjl posted...

That's pretty common among anyone that you criticize for something that doesn't apply to them.

If it doesn't apply to you don't wear the shoe.

MightBeOverSoon posted...

I can see how me saying "most men are addicted to porn" or you saying "Porn has made a lot of men into a bad/selfish lovers" would very much feel like an attack on masculinity, which can be super fragile.

I don't get it. If the shoe doesn't fit don't put it on. I don't sit there and be like "well I'm not like other girls" if someone is talking about "women are gold diggers" because it doesn't apply to me so I don't accept the label. Like grow up.

Jen0125 posted...

If it doesn't apply to you don't wear the shoe.

I'm not wearing it. I'm pointing out that your approach to something we both agree is a problem is counterproductive and probably actually just makes the problem worse. Why would you want to do that?

adjl posted...

I'm not wearing it. I'm pointing out that your approach to something we both agree is a problem is counterproductive and probably actually just makes the problem worse. Why would you want to do that?

Why do you always act like things I say on potd are meant to change the world? Again, grow up.

Men always act like it's people's responsibility to handhold their feelings through reality lol. No. Porn addiction and watching porn consistently is bad for your sexual health and how you treat women. It's a fact. No one can hold your hand through that. Radical acceptance is there for you when you're ready.

Jen0125 posted...

I don't get it. If the shoe doesn't fit don't put it on. I don't sit there and be like "well I'm not like other girls" if someone is talking about "women are gold diggers" because it doesn't apply to me so I don't accept the label. Like grow up.

Gotta be honest; that's pretty dumb logic IMO. Why would anyone, of any gender, race, sexuality, or any demographic at all, be okay with letting people go around insulting explicitly everyone of that group? That shit just leads to false reputations which leads to vilification.

keyblader1985 posted...

Gotta be honest; that's pretty dumb logic IMO. Why would anyone, of any gender, race, sexuality, or any demographic at all, be okay with letting people go around insulting explicitly everyone of that group? That shit just leads to false reputations which leads to vilification.

If the shoe doesn't fit, don't wear it. I do vilify men because in general they deserve it lmao. Men are the cause of almost all the ills of our society because for thousands of years you have oppressed literally anyone else from having a chance to try things a different way. If that makes you upset, that isn't my problem. Men caused the wars, men perpetrate the most violent crimes. Men are seriously special snowflakes that think they deserve all the spoils of the world because that's what you've all taught yourself lol. It doesn't matter if there are men that don't act that way because you still benefit from your historical supremacy.

I'm done with this topic because I even posted sources regarding what I'm talking about but men want to boohoo instead of doing some overarching self reflection on why women think men aren't shit.

I appreciate you almost certainly taking the moderation to say something that I dont have the karma to post without getting banned.

MightBeOverSoon posted...

I appreciate you almost certainly taking the moderation to say something that I dont have the karma to post without getting banned.

It's always gotta be me because I'm like one of the only women posting here anymore and I refuse to let men here pity party

Jen0125 posted...

Why do you always act like things I say on potd are meant to change the world? Again, grow up.

Why make an argument if you aren't trying to change minds?

Jen0125 posted...

Porn addiction and watching porn consistently is bad for your sexual health and how you treat women. It's a fact.

And now you're just misunderstanding correlations and risk factors, to say nothing of how thoroughly useless it is to stop at "this is bad" instead of trying to figure out why it's bad and address whatever the root causes are.

Jen0125 posted...

Men always act like it's people's responsibility to handhold their feelings through reality lol. No.

I'm more of the philosophy that those who know have a responsibility to help those who don't know understand, as they're able. That's not a gendered thing, it's just how you get a well-informed community and society. Part of that does indeed include having the empathy to recognize why people are stuck on certain points and try to navigate that emotional reality.

I don't have empathy for men on potd so I guess that's where you're getting is wrong

Jen0125 posted...

If the shoe doesn't fit, don't wear it.

Would you respond that way to a black man complaining that people cross the street when they see him? That if he isn't personally going to assault the person, he shouldn't be concerned about the fact that the person believed he would?

Prejudicial discrimination is always stupid and should always be called out accordingly. It doesn't magically become okay because you feel (justifiably or not) like you've had it worse.

adjl posted...

Would you respond that way to a black man complaining that people cross the street when they see him? That if he isn't personally going to assault the person, he shouldn't be concerned about the fact that the person believed he would?

Prejudicial discrimination is always stupid and should always be called out accordingly. It doesn't magically become okay because you feel (justifiably or not) like you've had it worse.

I don't speak for the experiences of black men that's up for them. I speak on my experience as a woman. Maybe you should try to reel in your "empathy" and stop speaking over other people's lived experiences and what studies actually show.

Anyways now that adjl gave me his misguided daddy lecture and is ready to talk about his lived experience as a white man talking about issues he doesn't experience I'm really out of this topic lol

Probably a wise idea Jen. The point has been made at this point.

Also, I personally cross the street when I see a man in general. If he thinks it's over his skin color and not his y chromosome then oh well. I'm not looking to risk getting menaced to spare your feelings.

MightBeOverSoon posted...

Also, I personally cross the street when I see a man in general. If he thinks it's over his skin color and not his y chromosome then oh well. I'm not looking to risk getting menaced to spare your feelings.

Fucking exactly. I'm never trying to be alone with a man that I don't know while knowing how much violent crime they commit. Not all men is a fine mantra but I don't know all men and with the high percentage risk why would I take the chance to find out?

Jen0125 posted...

I don't speak for the experiences of black men that's up for them.

I'm not talking about speaking for the experiences of black men. I'm talking about you categorically saying that nobody should object to prejudicial treatment if the prejudice in question doesn't accurately describe them. Why would you say that?

Jen0125 posted...

I speak on my experience as a woman. Maybe you should try to reel in your "empathy" and stop speaking over other people's lived experiences and what studies actually show.

Which lived experiences have I spoken over? Have I ever suggested that I don't believe that you've had a hard time finding somebody who knows what they're doing in bed? Have I suggested that there isn't a correlation between excessive porn use and sexual violence? Or have I suggested that the problem is more complex than simply blaming porn?

Should we change the subject to women's view of porn and their sexual needs? That way, we men can learn what women want.

The fact that adjl thinks violent aggressive sex is the same as "not knowing what to do in bed" is cringe.

I really want to be done with this topic but you keep saying foul shit lol it's wild

Jen0125 posted...

The fact that adjl thinks violent aggressive sex is the same as "not knowing what to do in bed" is cringe.

It can be. If somebody genuinely believes that that's enjoyable for their partner, then it is indeed a problem of ignorance, not one of being an evil rapist or whatever (the fact that that ignorance can cause injury doesn't change that). In other cases, it's a matter of not caring whether or not it's enjoyable for their partner, and then it's a problem of being an evil rapist or whatever. Ignorance can be fixed with education. Evil, you've just gotta cut your losses and stab them in the dick.

even when you tell him that you're done talking to the dude, he just cannot stop himself. He really needs you to see things his way. He really needs to force his views on you.

But he's not one of those guys. honest.

Lol, I was reading a book in the Bourne franchise earlier this morning (Bourne Betrayal) and read a funny quote:

"Being poor is like watching pornography; once you're in, there's no way out."

Person4 posted...

Lol, I was reading a book in the Bourne franchise earlier this morning (Bourne Betrayal) and read a funny quote:

"Being poor is like watching pornography; once you're in, there's no way out."

thats just hilariously accurate.

None of that actually answered the question that I asked though. You just keep doubling down on why you're blaming men. And I never said one thing at all about men in this topic so I'm not sure why you think I'm upset.

MightBeOverSoon posted...

even when you tell him that you're done talking to the dude, he just cannot stop himself. He really needs you to see things his way. He really needs to force his views on you.

But he's not one of those guys. honest.

adjl posted...

It's always kind of funny to see people think I'm somehow personally invested in them because I keep pointing out that they're wrong. It's nothing personal, they just keep being wrong.

Wheeee...

Person4 posted...

Lol, I was reading a book in the Bourne franchise earlier this morning (Bourne Betrayal) and read a funny quote:

"Being poor is like watching pornography; once you're in, there's no way out."

That is indeed a major problem with it, especially for women and with the unparalleled archival abilities of the Internet. Despite the all-too-common attitude that women in any form of sex work should "get a real job" (because apparently being paid to provide an in-demand service doesn't qualify as a "real job"), many of those same people will go out of their way to get somebody fired from any "real job" if they find out that they do (or used to do) porn. It's very slowly getting better, as society gradually gets a bit less sex-negative and things like OF make it a lot more common for people to do a bit of sex work as a side hustle, but you still routinely see stories of women getting fired for having OF's, and that's really bad.

People want porn, but people want porn actresses to feel bad about making porn. I don't know if it's meant to be some sort of elaborate scheme to convince content creators that their work is of lower value so they charge less for it or if people are just overcompensating for the shame they feel over what they do alone in their bedrooms, but it's a really stupid double standard that needs to stop because it's single-handedly responsible for a large part of the industry's potential harm.

And I just realized I misread the quote and none of that is applicable to it. Meh.

I can't go a day without looking at least one picture of a naked woman.

Jen0125 posted...

Fucking exactly. I'm never trying to be alone with a man that I don't know while knowing how much violent crime they commit. Not all men is a fine mantra but I don't know all men and with the high percentage risk why would I take the chance to find out?

if you find yourself agreeing with the troll TC trying to rile up shit, you should maybe take a step back and try to figure out who your real enemies are

the devil's advocate is still advocating for the fucking devil

https://ucr.fbi.gov/crime-in-the-u.s/2012/crime-in-the-u.s.-2012/tables/42tabledatadecoverviewpdf/table_42_arrests_by_sex_2012.xls

Here are the statistics on male perpetration of violent crimes for the mod who says it's sexist lol

Agesboy can read it too. And adjl.

nice angry edit

It's not angry. I always edit my posts because I think too fast and always want to add more. Are you angry because I posted the statistics? What am I being a devils advocate for? Lol I'm not the devil.

agesboy posted...

if you find yourself agreeing with the troll TC trying to rile up shit, you should maybe take a step back and try to figure out who your real enemies are

the devil's advocate is still advocating for the fucking devil

Yeah God forbid. If a girl says anything negative about a man and his porn then she must be a troll. Bite me lol.

remember, this guy's on your side. lmao

Still not a guy, thanks for that.