Current Events > Who's more annoying: rabid anti-piracy people or rabid anti-AI people?

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Anti piracy, anti ai is the correct stance.

Anti piracy, anti ai is the correct stance.

Anti AI because anti piracy is actually a good stance

I'm whatever on piracy, I don't do it anymore, but I understand those that do, and when you look at games, music, and TV being removed from services they were once available for, I understand piracy.

Companies basically telling you that you can't watch this, play this, or listen to this anymore puts me on the side of piracy. Especially if you've purchased it before. Like Steam removing games, iTunes removing songs, or companies not making things available to purchase.

If Fox doesn't want to put Undeclared on any streaming service, doesn't want to sell the DVD set, then who does it hurt to download it illegally? To them it's a dead product, to you it's 18 episodes of entertainment.

Rabid anti-AI folks include people who are worried about AI killing off humans, so there's like a much better cause there.

I don't know that many people are actually worried about AI going full Skynet.

The bigger issues that are already in play are:

Companies using AI to replace human workers and hoard profit in places without adequate social safety nets

Corrupt governments (most of them) using them for facial recognition/human tracking

Automotive companies putting dangerous self-driving cars on the road

AI used for more "mundane" tasks (like hiring/firing employees) trained to be biased/bigoted

Privacy violations like deepfakes and identify theft

Social engineering through social media algorithms

AI in and of itself is just a tool that isn't good or bad but most of the entities using it are bad and will use it to do bad things.

Anti piracy, anti ai is the correct stance.

Anti piracy, anti ai is the correct stance.

Anti piracy, anti ai is the correct stance.

Anti piracy, anti ai is the correct stance.

I don't even hear anti-piracy people speaking/posting and I've seen quite a bit of anti-AI people due to recent developments.

The anti piracy types tend to be the ones who also oppose ad blockers.

The owner class bases itself on stealing from the working class, so piracy isn't so much theft as it is reclamation.

Putting that aside, the best way to combat piracy is to provide a service worth paying for.

Absolutely. If i can avoid piracy i will.

For your average adult, piracy is rarely if ever about money, but convenience/accessabillity.

Anti-piracy, by a country mile.

An essential aspect of theft is that it deprives the owner of the item. Stealing an apple from an apple cart for example means the vendor can no longer sell that apple (and on a larger scale could potentially end up starving to death himself). Stealing someone's car deprives them of what is likely an essential mode of transport that can fuck their entire life up.

But downloading a copy of something - literally a set of 1s and 0s - does not do this. The only argument against that is one of spite.
Which isn't necessarily wrong per se, and if you feel that way, fine. Just don't dishonestly try to claim it's the same thing.

Yeah i hate it when peopme does that as well.

Like calling piracy theft feels like calling theft robbery.

There are similarities, sure, but there are also some clear cut and very important differences.

It's based on the old "one download = one (lost) sale" myth. A myth that, surprise, is pushed by publishers.

The funny thing is, i know for a fact theres people who have gone from pirating a title, only to later end up buying it... and wouldnt have bought it to begin with

Having a demo for every game would fix that problem tho (and the mostly pc exclusive "Can i run this?") but noooo...

Yeah. It also doesn't help that things can be removed from online platforms for any reason (and publishers deserve zero benefit of the doubt that they won't)

Anti piracy

anti-AI people are generally worried for their jobs or whatnot

The owner class bases itself on stealing from the working class, so piracy isn't so much theft as it is reclamation.

How can you "reclaim" something if you never owned it to begin with. Such twisted, stupid logic.

Anti piracy, anti ai is the correct stance.

rabid pro-AI people and it's not close