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legendarylemur
04/03/24 6:51:37 PM
#51:


Yeah Karl is a drama channel that's occasionally a good speedrun analysis channel. You can sorta see from the way he speaks outside of his scripts, he's more into the drama than he is about the causes and speedruns and whatnot. Though I don't think his videos are particularly about negativity than it is about making a clown show out of them.

Video essay meta changes a lot more frequently than people seem to think. It's not really about negativity anymore. People love long drawn out narrations of things they can discern for themselves, and people love news and speculations. The way I see it, the only way negativity can succeed nowadays is if it involves lolcows and making a clownshow as large as possible about them.

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FunWithAFryPan
04/03/24 6:51:45 PM
#52:


BlackOmnimon posted...
A lot of people simply stopped watching when she came out as trans, that's sad reality. Happened with PhilosophyTube too
Philosophy Tubes whole vibe changed when she came out. I used to be a big fan, and Im certainly not anti-trans in any way, and even I dont watch her videos anymore.

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Vicious_Dios
04/03/24 6:53:11 PM
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s0nicfan posted...
Chased the algorithm too hard. All the fun videos went away in exchange for a near constant stream of videos about how bad the industry is. It got stale fast, and you can only hear so many versions of the same content before it just stops being worth checking in.


Facts on facts on facts.

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Torgo
04/03/24 7:03:42 PM
#54:


Bullshit.

A chunk of his audience that wanted to hear him bitch about games industry stuff were also transphobes and bigots in general, and when he came out as non-binary and started presenting as a woman they fled the channel.

End of fucking story... lol


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Cemith
04/03/24 7:12:57 PM
#55:


Also, I only just now learned from this topic that Sterling is trans. I can't believe I never knew this.

Granted I never followed the channel, but still.

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invertedlegdrop
04/03/24 8:07:43 PM
#56:


Most of the points listed here are right:

stale,boring content...

Sterling was an insufferable narcissist before and after coming out as trans...

videos are always covering something in gaming like 3 weeks earlier...

Sterling went from the top of youtube to a pass their prime lolcow...

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KI_Simpson
04/03/24 8:10:54 PM
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hereforemnant posted...
I would argue the world is getting worse by a small % day after day given climate change & we're just waiting for the end, but that's just my pessimistic view on things.
So you insult me for supposedly missing your point, go on a rant about how wrong I am because I didn't hit the goalposts in the area you moved them to (nothing I said in any way indicated someone couldn't cover negative topics in their videos, YOU justified Sterling supposedly only making negative videos then blamed me for responding to how you represented them instead of binging all their content ), then confirm that my interpretation of your message was exactly how you felt about things. I'm so fucking tired of pessimism and despair being treated as a cute personality quirk, they are a life ruining mental illness for me.

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hereforemnant
04/03/24 8:32:41 PM
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KI_Simpson posted...
So you insult me for supposedly missing your point, go on a rant about how wrong I am because I didn't hit the goalposts in the area you moved them to (nothing I said in any way indicated someone couldn't cover negative topics in their videos, YOU justified Sterling supposedly only making negative videos then blamed me for responding to how you represented them instead of binging all their content ), then confirm that my interpretation of your message was exactly how you felt about things. I'm so fucking tired of pessimism and despair being treated as a cute personality quirk, they are a life ruining mental illness for me.
I didn't know I was supposed to stay aware of some other stranger on the internet's personal mental health condition lest I say something that legitimately triggers them because of something I was unaware of? That's such a weird thing to foist onto someone else. If you're not in a good space, don't respond or engage with something, it's not my responsibility to stay up to date on how someone else might be when I don't know them.

As for the rest of it, yes, all their videos are not just negative doom parades of content. Anyone that says that's the case is lying, there's plenty of self awareness about the content & more lighthearted material that does exist. If you're complaining about me "insulting" you, you wouldn't have ass pulled a large quote about a straw man you made in your head as your first response to me mate.

I'm not going to have a trauma dump to you in response to prove why I have an outlook that you think is just a jest or 'personality quirk' because you have your own issues you're dealing with. I do wish you luck on fixing your situation, but it's so fucking weird to just think my situation isn't comparable to yours when there was never a competition for it
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Umbreon
04/03/24 8:34:57 PM
#59:


Enclave posted...
Peak Sterling was the Fuck Konami news era.


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ViewtifulGrave
04/04/24 1:20:36 PM
#60:


s0nicfan posted...
Karl is the "law and order SVU" to SS's "forensic files." Karl is too into the drama whereas SS is all about analysis. It's like comparing TMZ to Wikipedia.
Outside of Billy and Jirard what drama is Karl apart of?

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s0nicfan
04/04/24 1:25:12 PM
#61:


ViewtifulGrave posted...
Outside of Billy and Jirard what drama is Karl apart of?

I'm talking more the way he frames his script and less him getting involved in internet drama. If SummoningSalt made a video on someone cheating, he probably wouldn't write it with so many "stupids" in it. But Karl loves (too much) to dunk on cheaters in his video in a way that's just being dramatic. "how could they be so stupid?" "The most idiotic thing anyone could do, so of course they did it", etc, etc

Going back to the metaphor, SVU is more about the drama of the crime and less the technical specifics of how the scene is analyzed. Karl is Ice-T being shocked at the murder, SummoningSalt is the dude in the lab off screen actually figuring shit out.

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mario2000
04/04/24 1:33:23 PM
#62:


Is Karl Jobst still making Billy Mitchell videos? That's even more pathetic than Stephanie Sterling still making "crunch time bad" videos.

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wiiking96
04/04/24 1:37:09 PM
#63:


FunWithAFryPan posted...
Philosophy Tubes whole vibe changed when she came out. I used to be a big fan, and Im certainly not anti-trans in any way, and even I dont watch her videos anymore.
Her recent videos are extremely good.

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McMarbles
04/04/24 1:37:36 PM
#64:


Torgo posted...
Bullshit.

A chunk of his audience that wanted to hear him bitch about games industry stuff were also transphobes and bigots in general, and when he came out as non-binary and started presenting as a woman they fled the channel.

End of fucking story... lol
For the record I lost interest waaaaay before they went public with their transition.

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Solid_Sonic
04/04/24 1:38:53 PM
#65:


s0nicfan posted...
Chased the algorithm too hard. All the fun videos went away in exchange for a near constant stream of videos about how bad the industry is. It got stale fast, and you can only hear so many versions of the same content before it just stops being worth checking in.

Probably this. At some point if you cover subjects other content creators are you're bound to start speaking into an echo chamber and the competitive advantage of "your voice" being the one parroting the common thread loses its impact.

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Jeremy517
04/04/24 1:54:27 PM
#66:


Maze_ posted...
I mean in Karl Jobst's defense, Billy is actively trying to ruin his life with bogus lawsuits

So it's a lot more understandable. If Karl didn't have a successful Pateron, his life would have been destroyed. Lawsuits are expensive.

Karl also has cancer, so I can't really blame him for putting out what he can.
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Error1355
04/04/24 2:00:20 PM
#67:


Jeremy517 posted...
Karl also has cancer, so I can't really blame him for putting out what he can.
Oh wow, I watched most of his recent videos (I haven't watched the most recent two though). I didn't hear about that at all. Just saw his tweets now.

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mario2000
04/04/24 2:04:30 PM
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Had no idea he had cancer, that's unfortunate.

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Bass
04/04/24 2:09:35 PM
#69:


Error1355 posted...
What's wild is that I only got into PhilosphyTube within the last few months. Didn't even know she was trans until like halfway through the first video I watched when she said it.
Yeah, PhilosophyTube is great from what little I've seen. I've only ever known her as trans. Never knew she made any videos before embracing her trans identity.

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Humble_Novice
04/04/24 2:14:37 PM
#70:


We can at least be glad that Jim Sterling is no Keffals or iilluminaughtii.

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Alucard188
04/04/24 2:16:10 PM
#71:


Torgo posted...
Bullshit.

A chunk of his audience that wanted to hear him bitch about games industry stuff were also transphobes and bigots in general, and when he came out as non-binary and started presenting as a woman they fled the channel.

End of fucking story... lol

This. Steph's material hasn't changed in the slightest. They've constantly railed against issues in the gaming scene. The only thing that's changed is the enby.

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ai123
04/04/24 2:21:27 PM
#72:


Does Sterling still go on about their wrestling career? That was a bit of a turn off for me.

I'm British, so I'm used to constant sardonic negativity.

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orcus_snake
04/04/24 2:42:19 PM
#73:


Wait, Sterling transitioned?

EDIT: woahh, okay it really did happen.

I stopped watching a while ago, nothing really bad happened in my case I simply no longer had the desire to seek out the videos.

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KI_Simpson
04/04/24 3:04:23 PM
#74:


hereforemnant posted...
I didn't know I was supposed to stay aware of some other stranger on the internet's personal mental health condition lest I say something that legitimately triggers them because of something I was unaware of? That's such a weird thing to foist onto someone else. If you're not in a good space, don't respond or engage with something, it's not my responsibility to stay up to date on how someone else might be when I don't know them.

As for the rest of it, yes, all their videos are not just negative doom parades of content. Anyone that says that's the case is lying, there's plenty of self awareness about the content & more lighthearted material that does exist. If you're complaining about me "insulting" you, you wouldn't have ass pulled a large quote about a straw man you made in your head as your first response to me mate.

I'm not going to have a trauma dump to you in response to prove why I have an outlook that you think is just a jest or 'personality quirk' because you have your own issues you're dealing with. I do wish you luck on fixing your situation, but it's so fucking weird to just think my situation isn't comparable to yours when there was never a competition for it
I wasn't singling you out for not taking pessimism seriously enough, it's a societal problem at this point, people spreading negativity and hopelessness at every opportunity with no regard for people who would or are forced to internalize that view of the world. I understand that sometimes it comes from people who actually are being hurt by it and deal with it in a way I definitely do not (joking about things that are genuinely worrying me is something I never do), but I don't feel like a topic about a YouTube video game commentator is an appropriate place to say the world is getting worse in every way and we should just deal with it.

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Enclave
04/04/24 3:20:33 PM
#75:


I will say Sterling is still fun to watch in moderation. I can't watch her every week like I used to but I still check out the Jimquisitions occasionally and if you do that they're still fun to watch.

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Revelation34
04/05/24 6:01:21 AM
#76:


Maze_ posted...

I mean in Karl Jobst's defense, Billy is actively trying to ruin his life with bogus lawsuits

So it's a lot more understandable. If Karl didn't have a successful Pateron, his life would have been destroyed. Lawsuits are expensive.


Didn't he also release a video titled "Billy Mitchell loses lawsuit" and it was really only one claim?

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cjsdowg
04/05/24 6:27:04 AM
#77:


Their stuff just got boring to me. While I know that holds true for many ppl. I know they lost viewers after coming out.

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Bass_X0
04/05/24 6:28:58 AM
#78:


I still listen to their videos while Im working but its no longer a show I quite enjoyed as much as I did.

The old Sequel Or Slaughter video was one of my favourites that Ive watched a few times

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Bass_X0
04/06/24 9:20:25 AM
#79:


ai123 posted...
Does Sterling still go on about their wrestling career? That was a bit of a turn off for me.

When there is something they have to promote.


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_____Cait
04/06/24 9:21:57 AM
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They used to have thumbnails that looked like nazi propaganda for one

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Error1355
04/06/24 10:00:31 AM
#81:


_____Cait posted...
They used to have thumbnails that looked like nazi propaganda for one

???

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Alucard188
04/08/24 12:18:14 PM
#83:


_____Cait posted...
They used to have thumbnails that looked like nazi propaganda for one

Are you talking about the red and black militant look? That was part of their edgelord persona that they retired relatively quickly. It was meant to invoke fascist imagery, not Nazi specifically.

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MrMojoRising
04/08/24 12:19:22 PM
#84:


_____Cait posted...
They used to have thumbnails that looked like nazi propaganda for one

Honestly at first I was sketched out at the red and black motif, white bald dude standing at a podium thing. Then I listened to her videos and saw that they were pretty left leaning.

I do like her old stuff and her new stuff. But those parody songs are...not it. Then again I wasn't a fan of some of her characters like cucumber succulence or whatever the fuck that was.

Commentocracy was great tho

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ZeroX2010
04/08/24 12:24:43 PM
#85:


Alucard188 posted...
Are you talking about the red and black militant look? That was part of their edgelord persona that they retired relatively quickly. It was meant to invoke fascist imagery, not Nazi specifically.
Sterling retired that look when Trump became president.

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weeb98
04/08/24 12:26:05 PM
#86:


i stopped watching his vids when he removed his EVERYBODYS THINKIN BOUT ME intro
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Cobra1010
04/08/24 12:26:48 PM
#87:


Alucard188 posted...
Are you talking about the red and black militant look? That was part of their edgelord persona that they retired relatively quickly. It was meant to invoke fascist imagery, not Nazi specifically.

Yeah that. When I first saw those thumbnails, I didn't even want to click on them.

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Hayame_Zero
04/10/24 2:20:29 PM
#88:


The only thing I enjoyed from James Sterling in recent years is they wrote the bestiary for Vampire Survivors.

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