Current Events > Jerry Seinfeld Says TV Comedy Is Being Killed By the 'Extreme Left'

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DipDipDiver
04/29/24 4:29:02 PM
#101:


trappedunderice posted...
Could married with children be made today or what, al bundy is quite the character
It could be, but then people would just be like "wtf they already made this show"

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LtZim
04/29/24 4:29:19 PM
#102:


__starsnostars posted...
Seinfeld is a profoundly unfunny guy and his show relies on a laugh track.
What's the deal with laugh tracks? Am I supposed to be laughing with it, or at it??
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HighSeraph
04/29/24 4:29:56 PM
#103:


TIL there are no more TV comedies

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PeteyParker
04/29/24 4:30:12 PM
#104:


Irony posted...
Also Last Man Standing doesn't count as it isn't funny

Tim Allen neglected to mention that after what turned out to be the final season on ABC, he was due to get a nice pay increase. ABC didn't actually own the show (it was owned by Fox) and was only the distributor. The ratings on ABC were not good enough for a show they didn't own for the money it would have to shell out. So like a true Conservative grifter, Allen cried to the public that he was being canceled for his "political views" and the GOP base ate it up and the actual owner of the show, Fox, was able to make it work for a little bit longer based on the "outrage".

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ShadowMan033
04/29/24 4:30:18 PM
#105:


DarthAragorn posted...
Yeah which is why south park and always sunny have been on for 30 seasons


The writers/creators of both of these programs have reflected on past episodes and said, oh God, we could never do that today

Despite the fact that their brand of comedy really just exists in a bubble

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Technician_X
04/29/24 4:30:45 PM
#106:


hockeybabe89 posted...
They got mad at Dave Chappelle for calling trans women men and then he proceeded to make millions from Netflix!! Cancel culture is out of control!
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DrizztLink
04/29/24 4:31:26 PM
#107:


PeteyParker posted...
Tim Allen neglected to mention that after what turned out to be the final season on ABC, he was due to get a nice pay increase. ABC didn't actually own the show (it was owned by Fox) and was only the distributor. The ratings on ABC were not good enough for a show they didn't own for the money it would have to shell out. So like a true Conservative grifter, Allen cried to the public that he was being canceled for his "political views" and the GOP base ate it up and the actual owner of the show, Fox, was able to make it work for a little bit longer based on the "outrage".
If Tim Allen says anything, it's bullshit.

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TheLiarParadox
04/29/24 4:31:59 PM
#108:


kiwimyweewee posted...
Show was carried by George and Kramer.
The Kramer guy is also terribly unfunny. I recently re-watched Airheads and remembered hating his character even as a kid who liked dumb shit (like the movie Airheads).

I do like Jason Alexander though.

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epik_fail1
04/29/24 4:34:30 PM
#109:


Technician_X posted...
https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/5/50ff4fbb.jpg

In their head. Being criticised is the same as being censored.

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creativerealms
04/29/24 4:34:36 PM
#110:


trappedunderice posted...
Could married with children be made today or what, al bundy is quite the character
Al Bundy was always wrong, it was an Archie Bunker type thing. You were suppose to realize they were bad people and them being humiliated was part of the humor. Yes I think a show like that could be made today.

And yeah I realize that a lot of the audience of a married with Children didn't realize that.

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DoesntMatter
04/29/24 4:34:55 PM
#111:


trappedunderice posted...
Could married with children be made today or what, al bundy is quite the character
a sitcom about a shoe salesman who can afford a two-story, 3 bedroom 3 bathroom house with a two car garage and a yard?

would be completely unrealistic today.

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Robot2600
04/29/24 4:35:31 PM
#112:


Not to mention Tim Allen got hit with a DUI then decided to make an anti-pot episode of Home Improvement to ... somehow apologize for the DUI? make it seem wholesome?

fuck tim allen; what a dumb asshole

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Hayame_Zero
04/29/24 4:37:20 PM
#113:


creativerealms posted...
Al Bundy was always wrong, it was an Archie Bunker type thing. You were suppose to realize they were bad people and them being humiliated was part of the humor. Yes I think a show like that could be made today.

And yeah I realize that a lot of the audience of a married with Children didn't realize that.
Yeah, the comedy can still work because we're it's meant to imply the family are idiots. But the audience didn't catch on to that and started celebrating them, so they leaned harder into it.

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Kami_no_Kami
04/29/24 4:38:41 PM
#114:


Wow, very dumb. I do like that he used the now antiquated PC as the shorthand for thing I dont like instead of woke. Feels quaint and nostalgic now.

The whole things ruined by the fact that network sitcoms have always had some of the most flaccid, safe comedy in the universe, the fact that the boundaries comedies push nowadays are far beyond what Seinfeld was capable of and especially the fact that sitcoms dying is an obvious result of cable dying, which has nothing to do with the extreme left or PC. Also, its worth noting that Bill Mahers Politically Incorrect ran during 5 years of the only thing people remember him for (other than the Bee Movie).
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Heineken14
04/29/24 4:40:15 PM
#115:


gatorsPENSbucs posted...
Kinda proving his point when your only examples are two 30 year old shows.

although I think blaming a side is silly

DOES it? When his examples are fucking MASH and Mary Tyler Moore....

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IfGodCouldDie
04/29/24 4:40:30 PM
#116:


--Zero- posted...
These have been around for almost 20-25 years with an established fanbase. Jerry isn't wrong at all about it. The extreme left can be insufferable at times and that's coming from someone on the left. It's hard to make anything funny without them trying to ruin things.
Give an example of a comedy the left has ruined

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DipDipDiver
04/29/24 4:42:09 PM
#117:


TheLiarParadox posted...
The Kramer guy is also terribly unfunny. I recently re-watched Airheads and remembered hating his character even as a kid who liked dumb shit (like the movie Airheads).

I do like Jason Alexander though.
I will not tolerate Airheads slander on God's internet

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Smashingpmkns
04/29/24 4:42:22 PM
#118:


The dude who made Seinfeld worth watching just finished a 24 year long sitcom that was more offensive than like 99% of what's ever been on TV lol

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mario2000
04/29/24 4:44:16 PM
#119:


Since Always Sunny was mentioned, is anyone else thinking of the Chuck E Cheese's episode from the recent season? I feel like it's relevant to this topic.

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PoIkan
04/29/24 4:44:54 PM
#120:


Be funnier?

I mean, I am a comedy lover and never once got into Seinfeld. I think the only people these days that can still make me laugh are the Whose Line guys. Comedians are just pissed that the only thing they have left is stand up and personally, I don't care about listening to someone ramble into a microphone. Do something else.
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TheLiarParadox
04/29/24 4:44:59 PM
#121:


DipDipDiver posted...
I will not tolerate Airheads slander on God's internet
I mean that in the best way. I'm a huge admirer of bad media, an aficionado even.

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NPC
04/29/24 4:45:02 PM
#122:


Vyrulisse posted...
He's not wrong and many comedians have shared similar sentiments before.

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Dungeater
04/29/24 4:46:12 PM
#123:


its very fitting for the user called NPC to mindlessly quote an incorrect take and add nothing of their own

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Nok_Su_Kow
04/29/24 4:47:04 PM
#124:


He didn't present any examples of comedy he thinks is unfunny. Also how funny are those extreme right programs these days, and what are they?
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mario2000
04/29/24 4:47:04 PM
#125:


NPC posted...
He's not wrong and many comedians have shared similar sentiments before.

Still waiting for any of you guys to provide even a single example...

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Umbreon
04/29/24 4:47:13 PM
#126:


Loving the grand total of zero examples given by the people who insists Seindield's statement is true.

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Shadow_Don
04/29/24 4:47:52 PM
#127:


Pretty sure Larry david is a lefty but ok Jerry

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Phantom_Nook
04/29/24 4:48:04 PM
#128:


Umbreon posted...
Loving the grand total of zero examples given by the people who insists Seindield's statement is true.
how dare you demand examples. you're dogpiling on me.

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Doe
04/29/24 4:49:03 PM
#129:


I do wanna say that two years ago, Seinfeld was a surprise guest at the comedy club I went to in NYC during my internship, and he was outrageously funny. Just making jokes talking about sponges and the words people use for transportation. He's a very talented guy. But his bellyaching about leftists in this interview is complete nonsense and probably motivated by Kramer bombing with the n-word and etc.

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DrizztLink
04/29/24 4:50:51 PM
#130:


Doe posted...
I do wanna say that two years ago, Seinfeld was a surprise guest at the comedy club I went to in NYC during my internship, and he was outrageously funny. Just making jokes talking about sponges and the words people use for transportation. He's a very talented guy. But his bellyaching about leftists in this interview is complete nonsense and probably motivated by Kramer bombing with the n-word and etc.
That's the weird bit.

Jerry's complaining, but the dude is damn close to the least offensive comedian.

Like, his shit is so safe it's got a mouth guard and a hi-vis vest.

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Tyranthraxus
04/29/24 4:52:42 PM
#131:


trappedunderice posted...
Could married with children be made today or what, al bundy is quite the character

Most of the non fat jokes would still fly IMO. NO MA'AM was accurately portrayed as the miserable losers they are. Only thing I can think of that would absolutely have to go is psycho dad.

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Heineken14
04/29/24 4:53:37 PM
#132:


DoesntMatter posted...
a sitcom about a shoe salesman who can afford a two-story, 3 bedroom 3 bathroom house with a two car garage and a yard?

would be completely unrealistic today.

Yeah. I remember watching a Youtube video of a guy going over why it's wrong when people say "Blazing Saddles couldn't be made today!" and it's because people always look at the superficial outside coating and not what/why these things got made. Shit like Married With Children just really doesn't seem to be a thing any more. There have been WAY more offensive comedies to come out since Blazing Saddles.

A modern equivalent would, coincidentally, I think be closer to Modern Family.

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Heineken14
04/29/24 4:54:54 PM
#133:


Dungeater posted...
its very fitting for the user called NPC to mindlessly quote an incorrect take and add nothing of their own

That's straight up that dude's gimmick. Waiting for him to copy/paste another reddit topic.

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DrizztLink
04/29/24 4:56:18 PM
#134:


Heineken14 posted...
That's straight up that dude's gimmick. Waiting for him to copy/paste another reddit topic.
I'm not, popped it on ignore and missed literally nothing.

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epik_fail1
04/29/24 4:58:47 PM
#135:


Kami_no_Kami posted...
Wow, very dumb. I do like that he used the now antiquated PC as the shorthand for thing I dont like instead of woke. Feels quaint and nostalgic now.

The whole things ruined by the fact that network sitcoms have always had some of the most flaccid, safe comedy in the universe, the fact that the boundaries comedies push nowadays are far beyond what Seinfeld was capable of and especially the fact that sitcoms dying is an obvious result of cable dying, which has nothing to do with the extreme left or PC. Also, its worth noting that Bill Mahers Politically Incorrect ran during 5 years of the only thing people remember him for (other than the Bee Movie).

I think PC was the buzzword before sjw?

Rewatching x men cartoon from the 1990s made me realise grifters already existed back then and they said exactly the same thing

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Technician_X
04/29/24 4:58:58 PM
#136:


Also worth pointing out that Jerry is whining about the death of cable comedies while promoting his new movie releasing on a streaming giant which helped kill off cable comedies.

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Sir_Will
04/29/24 5:00:08 PM
#137:


Try punching up instead of down.

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Umbreon
04/29/24 5:02:42 PM
#138:


Ultimately when it comes to old comedians complaining about the "death of comedy", it's a bunch of fossils that can't cope with the fact that they fell off.

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Murphiroth
04/29/24 5:09:48 PM
#139:


Gotta love all the drive by "This is definitely happening!" posts followed by said posters running away once asked for any kind of example lmao.
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Dudebusters
04/29/24 5:12:47 PM
#140:


Murphiroth posted...
Gotta love all the drive by "This is definitely happening!" posts followed by said posters running away once asked for any kind of example lmao.

"Here is a big, unsubstantiated claim."
"Okay, prove it."
"Stop dogpiling on me!"

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Enclave
04/29/24 5:18:19 PM
#141:


Phantom_Nook posted...
how dare you demand examples. you're dogpiling on me.

Reminds me of when somebody makes a claim, I quote and say "Source?" and they get annoyed. Asking for a source or example shouldn't be a big ask.

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JuanCarlos1
04/29/24 5:20:18 PM
#142:


He's not wrong. We could be politically incorrect knowing that this is a joke and not to be taken serious, but nothing can be joked about anymore cause stuff happens to
people and it can be triggering.

Of course, gay and transphobic jokes were never funny since at the very best theyre lazy, but it shouldnt be wrong to talk poke fun at peoples differences.

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cjsdowg
04/29/24 5:22:26 PM
#143:


Larry David used the word on his show. I don't think we have to worry about people being cancelled.

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pauIie
04/29/24 5:27:00 PM
#144:


i would love some examples of jokes t h a t a r e f u n n y that are getting destroyed by the left

because chappelle straight up just saying he'd claim he was trans if he was going to prison so he could go to women's prison and rape them is not it.

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Vigero
04/29/24 5:30:22 PM
#145:


DarthAragorn posted...
Yeah which is why south park and always sunny have been on for 30 seasons

South Park isn't really left leaning humor.

Also South Park hasn't been any good since good lord...Season 8 at the most? It's in the same boat as Simpsons.
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pauIie
04/29/24 5:32:01 PM
#146:


Vigero posted...
South Park isn't really left leaning humor.
that's the point


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Vigero
04/29/24 5:32:19 PM
#147:


Well, it isn't really right leaning humor either.
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Heavy_D_Forever
04/29/24 5:35:53 PM
#148:


I'm not sure if you can narrow it down to one reason, but there truly aren't any good sitcoms on network TV these days. The "jokes" are insanely bland and obviously written to not offend anyone.

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joaquintall
04/29/24 5:36:42 PM
#149:


Old people getting old.

Tell me... was music, movies and comedy better when you were in your teens and 20s or now?

Same reason why our parents loved stuff like MASH and hated Friends. And why our kids will love something that hasn't been written yet.
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Vigero
04/29/24 5:37:27 PM
#150:


joaquintall posted...
Old people getting old.

Tell me... was music, movies and comedy better when you were in your teens and 20s or now?

Same reason why our parents loved stuff like MASH and hated Friends. And why our kids will love something that hasn't been written yet.

tbh Friends was never great to begin with. Definitely has to be on any Top Most Overrated TV Show list.
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