Current Events > Jerry Seinfeld Says TV Comedy Is Being Killed By the 'Extreme Left'

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MICHALECOLE posted...

I cant believe Jerry had all this to say about Star Wars

What's the deal with the Dark Side?

They say it's so dark and creepy, but they keep throwing around lightning bolts.

Why can't the light people throw lightning?

Jerry's right, I also let the liberals control me and what I am allowed to joke about

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DrizztLink posted...

What's the deal with the Dark Side?

They say it's so dark and creepy, but they keep throwing around lightning bolts.

Why can't the light people throw lightning?

Im so glad Jim Carrey ripped him apart over that dumbass bit.

Vigero posted...

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Weird how y'all still can't provide any evidence of comedy being killed by the "extreme left"

But keep drive by shitposting without any substance, that's about all you're good for after all.

Vigero posted...

[Still not providing any proof]

That's nice.

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/9/93d65a18.jpg

https://youtu.be/w0Z7O9Xe57E?si=qVZAt9tuWppzBBSs

Maybe it's a cold take here, but I never found Seinfeld that funny.

Vigero posted...

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creativerealms posted...

The whole "comedy is dead" has been a talking point for Conservatives for a long time. They will point to a lack of adult comedies releasing in theaters as their "proof" but all that proves is that companies would rather make cheap horror films or big blockbusters, and that comedies are more streaming only these days.

These people love "offensive comedy" but are quick to cry when they are the butt of the joke.

Not even just jokes. The moment a gay couple is shown? Throw it in the fire!

Vigero posted...

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Yearning for the good old days of minstrel shows to make a come back?

Or what kind of comedy do you miss?

Murphiroth posted...

Weird how y'all still can't provide any evidence of comedy being killed by the "extreme left"

But keep drive by shitposting without any substance, that's about all you're good for after all.

The only thing I'll say is that Network situational comedies are filled with the most bland/safest jokes out there when you compare them to what is on cable or what was on 20-30 years ago.

The only one that really doesn't is The Conners once they fired Roseanne. And that ended up going so far "Left" (well, Far Left as far as American standards) that it just became a tough watch. It was like they over compensated for having Roseanne on the show.

The Left is getting better at killing comedy and it's making the Righties nervous.

Vigero posted...

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Sorry, you'll have to give us a minute to digest this massive post of yours full of details on how Jerry Seinfeld is right. You just provided so much evidence that it may take awhile to parse through it. I hope you understand.

bigblu89 posted...

The only thing I'll say is that Network situational comedies are filled with the most bland/safest jokes out there when you compare them to what is on cable or what was on 20-30 years ago.

The only one that really doesn't is The Conners once they fired Roseanne. And that ended up going so far "Left" (well, Far Left as far as American standards) that it just became a tough watch. It was like they over compensated for having Roseanne on the show.

Pretty sure 70s was generally trying to avoid being offensive as well in terms of entertainment.

That Simpsons bit with Itchy and Scratchy episodes of the duo being non-violent buddies? Applies to a mid-70s Tom & Jerry cartoon.

LonelyStoner posted...

https://youtu.be/w0Z7O9Xe57E?si=qVZAt9tuWppzBBSs

Assuming that's In Living Color since Tommy Davidson and Jamie Foxx are in that, I gotta say, I absolutely loved that show. Probably the best sketch comedy show of all time IMO.

Antiyonder posted...

Pretty sure 70s was generally trying to avoid being offensive as well in terms of entertainment.

That Simpsons bit with Itchy and Scratchy episodes of the duo being non-violent buddies? Applies to a mid-70s Tom & Jerry cartoon.

In general, maybe. But, even into the early 2000's, you would see shows lean into things like racial or sexual stereotypes that I don't think would happen today for fear of backlash.

And I'm not saying it's right or wrong that it's not there anymore, it's just an observation.

One current example I can think of is "The Neighborhood". If you haven't seen it, it's about a white couple that moves into a predominantly black neighborhood, and how Cedric The Entertainer's character begrudgingly becomes friends with the white guy.

But 90% of the jokes are at the white guys expense for basically being a stereotypical "white guy".

As opposed to, say All In The Family, and the dynamic that Archie Bunker and George Jefferson had.

The extreme left are well known to dominate right wing people and prevent them from being funny

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Yeah, see, you say that, but the chuds aren't allowed to scream the N word anymore so it evens out.

PoIkan posted...

Assuming that's In Living Color since Tommy Davidson and Jamie Foxx are in that, I gotta say, I absolutely loved that show. Probably the best sketch comedy show of all time IMO.

It was lol. Such a great show. Gave Jim Carrey his start and his respect for marginalized groups.

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Did you watch Black-ish? The only racial stereotypes that anyone could've looked at as offensive were of the white characters, like all of Dre's co-workers.

MAYBE you can make an argument that Deon Cole's character was a bit stereotyped, but it was more about him being stereotypically dumb, and not stereotypically black.

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Unless I didn't understand the conversation, that's kinda what the conversation was about, no?

The line between a stereotype just being a stereotype, and it being an offensive stereotype.

pazzy posted...

Maybe it's a cold take here, but I never found Seinfeld that funny.

Seinfeld wasn't that funny, everyone else on the show was

I've always maintained the theory that the main character on any given sitcom is the worst/least funny.
They pretty much only exist as the "straight man" foil for everyone else's funny antics to bounce off of.

HylianFox posted...

Seinfeld wasn't that funny, everyone else on the show was

I've always maintained the theory that the main character on any given sitcom is the worst/least funny.
They pretty much only exist as the "straight man" foil for everyone else's funny antics to bounce off of.

Other than a few exceptions, like Married With Children, I do tend to agree with you on that one.

Hayame_Zero posted...

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/d/dcd85238.jpg

lol, I love this

Funny how the people who complain about being "canceled" also happen to be some of the biggest names in the business

I mean, WHAT'S the DEAL with THAT!?
:/

bigblu89 posted...

In general, maybe. But, even into the early 2000's, you would see shows lean into things like racial or sexual stereotypes that I don't think would happen today for fear of backlash.

And I'm not saying it's right or wrong that it's not there anymore, it's just an observation.

Maybe, but then one thing people who often complain about oversensitivity overlook is that bigotry is a form of oversensitivity.

They complain about not being able to make bigoted jokes, but they don't seem to consider that backlash or laws against LGBTQ+ acknowledgement are signs of their own side being guilty of oversensitivity.

Bus seat you're allowed to sit on determined by skin color? Yeah definitely thin skinned. As is any backlash to interracial couples.

No, the reason people voice their concerns is that they just want to legalize bigotry by voicing gloom and doom.

bigblu89 posted...

Did you watch Black-ish? The only racial stereotypes that anyone could've looked at as offensive were of the white characters, like all of Dre's co-workers.

MAYBE you can make an argument that Deon Cole's character was a bit stereotyped, but it was more about him being stereotypically dumb, and not stereotypically black.

Both the Dre's parents were also stereotypical in different ways. Hell, so was Dre, Junior and Bow at times.

lolife67 posted...

Both the Dre's parents were also stereotypical in different ways. Hell, so was Dre, Junior and Bow at times.

Yes, but not to the point of being seen as offensive, which I thought was what this conversation was about.

RetuenOfDevsman posted...

Exhibit A

Were you cursed by a shaman to only communicate in riddles? What is your deal?

bigblu89 posted...

Yes, but not to the point of being seen as offensive, which I thought was what this conversation was about.

No, that wasn't the convo.

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I wasn't complaining, at all.

I must've misunderstood the conversation then. I was under the assumption that the conversation was about people being offended by the stereotypes they see on TV and during stand up routines.

Apparently that wasn't the conversation, so I will politely bow out of the conversation.

ModernPost posted...

Were you cursed by a shaman to only communicate in riddles? What is your deal?

I thought it was pretty straightforward. I brought up people who don't want movies to have comedy, used Star Wars as an example, and the shining example thereof comes to me like a fly drawn to one of those zappy things flabbergasted at the notion of comedy in Star Wars.

"Exhibit A" just means "this is exactly what I'm talking about."

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All good.

My initial response about stereotypes being "offensive" was to the comment:

Pretty sure 70s was generally trying to avoid being offensive as well in terms of entertainment.

To which I said:

In general, maybe. But, even into the early 2000's, you would see shows lean into things like racial or sexual stereotypes that I don't think would happen today for fear of backlash.

I thought it was assumed when I said that I meant stereotypes that people would find offense to.

I guess I should've been a little more straight forward, and that was my bad.

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I thought so too, especially when it comes to race or sexuality, which is why I didn't think I had to qualify saying "stereotype" with the word offensive.

But there are definitely stereotypes that aren't necessarily offensive. Like, a guy hating his Mother-In-Law is a stereotype, but I wouldn't necessarily call it an offensive one.

Maybe, but then one thing people who often complain about oversensitivity overlook is that bigotry is a form of oversensitivity.

They complain about not being able to make bigoted jokes, but they don't seem to consider that backlash or laws against LGBTQ+ acknowledgement are signs of their own side being guilty of oversensitivity.

Bus seat you're allowed to sit on determined by skin color? Yeah definitely thin skinned. As is any backlash to interracial couples.

No, the reason people voice their concerns is that they just want to legalize bigotry by voicing gloom and doom.

I feel there are a lot of folks who feel like there is no humor if no one is being put down or mocked, and don't get the Bob's Burger kind of humor that seems to focus on never really putting anyone down hard...that kind of humor is just alien to many.

Its been a cultural war of making every group be equal and not seen as inferior.

Like with Apu in the Simpsons...few were really seeing him as offensive but it seems like many modern Indian citizens wanted, because no matter how much worked out for Apu they still saw him as" not on the level as a white man." and it would never be enough till Apu was Homer's Equal.

Many want to demand that all culture makes sure that white men are never above woman or other groups and that's something that's enraged more then a few who don't think such a thing is really possible.

And just on the topic of times where it seemed like sensitivity might not be a concern:

1960s didn't allow for husband and wife characters to be in the same bed even if fully clothed and even if they were just sleeping, reading or doing any non-sexual activity.

Even during the 90s and 2000s, Disney rewrote the lyrics to Aladdin (Where they cut off your ear if they don't like your face) or keeping Song of the South and the uncensored Fantasia off the market.

Plus the merchant song in Small One being altered to be non-offensive.

And overall that's the thing. If people like Seinfeld were arguing for the right reasons, why downplay the 1900s tendency to show overconcern/oversensitivity? If your stance is correct, the truth should be your friend.

LonelyStoner posted...

Which ended 4 years ago. I didnt watch it based on the lazy title alone.

Ok, but the point is Seinfeld is bitching that show with that title wouldn't even be made in modern times cause of PC and extreme leftists and to that other poster who said there's only bland names for sitcoms. That was my point. 4 years ago isn't that long.

bigblu89 posted...

Did you watch Black-ish? The only racial stereotypes that anyone could've looked at as offensive were of the white characters, like all of Dre's co-workers.

MAYBE you can make an argument that Deon Cole's character was a bit stereotyped, but it was more about him being stereotypically dumb, and not stereotypically black.

Blackish definitely tackled some racial stereotypes about black people. Some even not so great stereotypes. The show actually addresses black stereotypes often.

So is your complaint that the jokes didn't go far enough to royally offend black people? I'm just trying to understand what your complaint is, and in relation to the TC who's complaining "the extremes left killed comedy."

Antiyonder posted...

And just on the topic of times where it seemed like sensitivity might not be a concern:

1960s didn't allow for husband and wife characters to be in the same bed even if fully clothed and even if they were just sleeping, reading or doing any non-sexual activity.

Even during the 90s and 2000s, Disney rewrote the lyrics to Aladdin (Where they cut off your ear if they don't like your face) or keeping Song of the South and the uncensored Fantasia off the market.

Plus the merchant song in Small One being altered to be non-offensive.

And overall that's the thing. If people like Seinfeld were arguing for the right reasons, why downplay the 1900s tendency to show overconcern/oversensitivity? If your stance is correct, the truth should be your friend.

yeah in the 60s they wouldn't even show a pregnant woman on TV

While "It's Always Sunny" is a good example of a comedy that pushes the limits, one could argue that you couldn't do Season 1 "Sunny" in 2024.