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SilvosForever
04/30/24 9:54:59 AM
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https://time.com/6972021/donald-trump-2024-election-interview/

To carry out a deportation operation designed to remove more than 11 million people from the country, Trump told me, he would be willing to build migrant detention camps and deploy the U.S. military, both at the border and inland. He would let red states monitor women's pregnancies and prosecute those who violate abortion bans. He would, at his personal discretion, withhold funds appropriated by Congress, according to top advisers. He would be willing to fire a U.S. Attorney who doesn't carry out his order to prosecute someone, breaking with a tradition of independent law enforcement that dates from America's founding. He is weighing pardons for every one of his supporters accused of attacking the U.S. Capitol on Jan. 6, 2021, more than 800 of whom have pleaded guilty or been convicted by a jury. He might not come to the aid of an attacked ally in Europe or Asia if he felt that country wasn't paying enough for its own defense. He would gut the U.S. civil service, deploy the National Guard to American cities as he sees fit, close the White House pandemic-preparedness office, and staff his Administration with acolytes who back his false assertion that the 2020 election was stolen.

J6:
Trump has sought to recast an insurrectionist riot as an act of patriotism. "I call them the J-6 patriots," he says. When I ask whether he would consider pardoning every one of them, he says, "Yes, absolutely."

Deportation:
For an operation of that scale, Trump says he would rely mostly on the National Guard to round up and remove undocumented migrants throughout the country. "If they weren't able to, then I'd use [other parts of] the military," he says. When I ask if that means he would override the Posse Comitatus Actan 1878 law that prohibits the use of military force on civiliansTrump seems unmoved by the weight of the statute. "Well, these aren't civilians," he says. "These are people that aren't legally in our country." He would also seek help from local police and says he would deny funding for jurisdictions that decline to adopt his policies. "There's a possibility that some won't want to participate," Trump says, "and they won't partake in the riches."

Abortion:
At the same time, he has sought to defuse a potent campaign issue for the Democrats by saying he wouldn't sign a federal ban. In our interview at Mar-a-Lago, he declines to commit to vetoing any additional federal restrictions if they came to his desk. More than 20 states now have full or partial abortion bans, and Trump says those policies should be left to the states to do what they want, including monitoring women's pregnancies. "I think they might do that," he says. When I ask whether he would be comfortable with states prosecuting women for having abortions beyond the point the laws permit, he says, "It's irrelevant whether I'm comfortable or not. It's totally irrelevant, because the states are going to make those decisions." President Biden has said he would fight state anti-abortion measures in court and with regulation.

Crime:
On the campaign trail, Trump uses crime as a cudgel, painting urban America as a savage hell-scape even though violent crime has declined in recent years, with homicides sinking 6% in 2022 and 13% in 2023, according to the FBI. When I point this out, Trump tells me he thinks the data, which is collected by state and local police departments, is rigged. "It's a lie," he says. He has pledged to send the National Guard into cities struggling with crime in a second termpossibly without the request of governorsand plans to approve Justice Department grants only to cities that adopt his preferred policing methods like stop-and-frisk.

Fixing the "antiwhite feeling"
When I ask if he agrees, Trump does not dispute this position. "There is a definite antiwhite feeling in the country," he tells TIME, "and that can't be allowed either." In a second term, advisers say, a Trump Administration would rescind Biden's Executive Orders designed to boost diversity and racial equity.


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pazzy
04/30/24 9:58:38 AM
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You could have summed this up by saying
"Destroy the country."
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Cemith
04/30/24 10:24:09 AM
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pazzy posted...
You could have summed this up by saying
"Destroy the country."

Both sides though!1!1!!1!

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CARRRNE_ASADA
04/30/24 10:30:52 AM
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scaaaary

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LoveLikeJazz
04/30/24 10:31:49 AM
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Hm

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ScazarMeltex
04/30/24 10:32:17 AM
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So uhhh...who does the dumbfuck plan to have perform all the cheap labor of the migrants he reports?

Also BuT BiDeN

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Euripides
04/30/24 10:32:29 AM
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BUT WE NEED TO TEACH GENOCIDE JOE A LESSON!!!!!

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Deyestus
04/30/24 10:34:44 AM
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Loudly proclaiming that he would be a fascist.

But remember, we're overreacting, right?

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ClayGuida
04/30/24 10:35:40 AM
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Deyestus posted...
Loudly proclaiming that he would be a fascist.

But remember, we're overreacting, right?
Literally said he'd be a dictator in day one.

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creativerealms
04/30/24 10:39:16 AM
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ClayGuida posted...
Literally said he'd be a dictator in day one.
For one day.

However we know one day will turn into one week, then a month, then a year and then for the rest of his life.

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Deej
04/30/24 10:42:19 AM
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This would be pretty damning for his chance of re-election, if Americans could read.

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ReiRei89
04/30/24 10:48:00 AM
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If only the anti Biden bros who swear Trump won't be that bad will post in this thread.

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thronedfire2
04/30/24 10:49:18 AM
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ScazarMeltex posted...
So uhhh...who does the dumbfuck plan to have perform all the cheap labor of the migrants he reports?

Also BuT BiDeN

thats what children are for


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Dark_twisted
04/30/24 10:52:54 AM
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ScazarMeltex posted...
So uhhh...who does the dumbfuck plan to have perform all the cheap labor of the migrants he reports?

Also BuT BiDeN
There's a reason why some states are loosening child labor laws

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HANGtheDJ_86
04/30/24 10:52:57 AM
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thronedfire2 posted...
thats what children are for
Child are immigrants of the womb, after all

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SpawnShadow
04/30/24 10:55:09 AM
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Dark_twisted posted...
There's a reason why some states are loosening child labor laws
And labor laws in general. And also why laws against homelessness (and the enforcement thereof) are ramping up in cruelty.
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Shadow_Don
04/30/24 10:56:32 AM
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SilvosForever posted...
Deportation:

Its actually crazy when you pause for a moment and actually think about what this would look like.

It would be civil war.

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DoesntMatter
04/30/24 10:56:51 AM
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fuck Trump and fuck anyone who supports his fascist dictatorial aspirations

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Cemith
04/30/24 10:56:55 AM
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ReiRei89 posted...
If only the anti Biden bros who swear Trump won't be that bad will post in this thread.

We could tag them but it seems kind of petty. Especially given the fact that they seemingly knows he's worse, they just never specify that.

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Probo93
04/30/24 11:01:19 AM
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All the more reason to be "vote blue no matter who" tbh.

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Rexdragon125
04/30/24 11:05:31 AM
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Biden campaign says Trump echoed Hitler with use of word 'vermin'
https://www.reuters.com/world/us/biden-campaign-says-trump-echoed-hitler-with-use-word-vermin-2023-11-13/

Trump Echoes Hitler: Migrants "Poisoning the Blood of Our Country"
A page right out Hitler's Nazi propaganda playbook
https://www.meidastouch.com/news/trump-echoes- hitler-migrants-poisoning-the-blood-of-our-country

Trump Makes Another 'Poison the Blood' Comment Evoking Hitler Yet Again
It followed several days of Trump and his supporters embracing his "day one dictator" rhetoric
https://www.meidastouch.com/news/trump-makes-another-poison-the-blood-comment-evoking-hitler-yet-again

Trump Echoes Hitler, Threatens to Rid America of 'Vermin' from Within
Trump implied his political opponents are a more dangerous threat than terrorists
https://www.meidastouch.com/news/trump-echoes- hitler-threatens-to-rid-america-of-vermin-from-within

Team Trump Mulling Deploying Military to Streets on Day 1 if Elected: Report
https://www.thedailybeast.com/donald-trump-mulling-deploying-military-to-streets-on-day-1-if-elected-report-says

Trump suggests he would use FBI to go after political rivals if elected in 2024
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2023/nov/10/trump-fbi-rivals-2024-election

Trump plots mass detention and deportation of undocumented immigrants should he regain power
https://edition.cnn.com/2023/11/11/politics/trump-stephen-miller-immigration-detention-deportation/index.html

Trump plans sweeping undocumented immigrant roundups, detention camps
https://www.reuters.com/world/us/trump-plans-sweeping-undocumented-immigrant-roundups-detention-camps-report-2023-11-11/

Former president vows to investigate TV networks for country-threatening treason should he win US election next year
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2023/sep/25/trump-nbc-msnbc-comcast-country-threatening-treason

Trump Doubles Down on Dreams of Being a Dictator
"I said I want to be a dictator for one day. You know why I wanted to be a dictator? Because I want a wall, and I want to drill, drill, drill, the former president said
https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-news/trump-doubles-down-dictator-day-one-1234922468/

Twitter Critics Explode Over Trump's Threat To Jews To Be More Grateful To Him Or Else
Weve been menaced by fascists before, you two-bit goon, tweeted one critic. We recognize the threat you represent from the darkest pages of our history.
https://www.huffpost.com/entry/twitter-erupts-trump-threat-to-jews_n_634c7125e4b0e376dc0dc122

Trump Bashes Jewish Leaders for Not Being Loyal After His Dinner With Holocaust Deniers
Jewish allies have been "begging" the former president to condemn Kanye West. He's now told them to shut up and bow down
https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-news/trump-bashes-jewish-leaders-not-being-loyal-1234644654/

Trump told chief of staff Hitler 'did a lot of good things', book says
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2021/jul/06/donald-trump-hitler-michael-bender-book

Trump Praised Hitler During Same Trip That He Disparaged U.S. War Dead
https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2021/07/trump-praised-hitler-france-losers-suckers-hair-trip-book-says.html

Trump wanted US generals to be like Hitler's generals
https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2022/08/15/inside-the-war-between-trump-and-his-generals

Donald Trump's ex-wife once said Trump kept a book of Hitler's speeches by his bed
https://www.businessinsider.com/donald-trumps-ex-wife-once-said-he-kept-a-book-of-hitlers-speeches-by-his-bed-2015-8

Donald Trump 'kept book of Adolf Hitler's speeches in his bedside cabinet.' In a 1990 interview, the billionaire businessman admitted to owning Nazi leader's 'Mein Kampf' but said he would never read speeches
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/donald-trump-adolf-hitler-books-bedside-cabinet-ex-wife-ivana-trump-vanity-fair-1990-a7639041.html

Schmidt: Trump's 'only affinity for reading anything were the Adolf Hitler speeches he kept on his nightstand'
https://thehill.com/homenews/media/394130-schmidt-trumps-only-affinity-for-reading-anything-were-the-adolf-hitler
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darkace77450
04/30/24 11:11:10 AM
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Trump: A record high stock market means Ive built the greatest economy in the history of the world.

Also Trump: A record high stock market means Joe Biden has destroyed the economy.

Also Also Trump: Watch what happens to the economy when I deport 11 million people doing the agriculture, construction, and sanitation jobs no one else will do.
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Heineken14
04/30/24 11:13:17 AM
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"This is why I vote for policy and not the letter next to a name, and why I will be coy and pretend I still am unsure of who I am voting for in November!"

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Heineken14
04/30/24 11:14:23 AM
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darkace77450 posted...
Trump: A record high stock market means Ive built the greatest economy in the history of the world.

Also Trump: A record high stock market means Joe Biden has destroyed the economy.

Also Also Trump: Watch what happens to the economy when I deport 11 million people doing the agriculture, construction, and sanitation jobs no one else will do.

Yeah, it's pretty amusing how easy it is to grill cult members on the dumb shit they say. They are still operating under the assumption that inflation is like 9%, and obviously cannot answer any of the other obvious questions about inflation you ask them.

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Umbreon
04/30/24 11:24:55 AM
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"Migrant detention camp" sounds awfully familiar.

Insurrection being considered "patriotism" is pretty rich coming from the weasel who gassed and arrested peaceful protestors. Guess only rebellion he likes counts.

Military force on civilians, well that's certainly in character for Trump.

And Trump thinks black people are criminals, that's also consistent with him.

Couldn't imagine the sheer amount of privilege you'd have to have to even consider not voting against this clown.


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DnDer
04/30/24 11:31:40 AM
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thronedfire2 posted...
thats what children are for

Kim Reynolds and Sarah Huckasans have been making sure of this, among other governors.

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DnDer
04/30/24 11:34:47 AM
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Rexdragon125 posted...
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This should be its own thread and stickied.

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kingdrake2
04/30/24 11:34:59 AM
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Umbreon posted...
Military force on civilians, well that's certainly in character for Trump.


reminds me of the time they pepper sprayed some people because trump wanted that spot to hold a bible.
trump did that.

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LoveLikeJazz
04/30/24 11:40:39 AM
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Shadow_Don posted...
Its actually crazy when you pause for a moment and actually think about what this would look like.

It would be civil war.
There are people who believe civil war is necessary at this point.

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UnsteadyOwl
04/30/24 11:54:51 AM
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The stuff about the people who were arrested for J6 is something he's been bringing up repeatedly on the campaign trail. He's been talking about them in positive terms and suggesting he'd pardon them.

It really seems like he's both doing it to keep his base fired up and to encourage his supporters to commit another act like J6 if he loses.

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DrizztLink
04/30/24 11:56:04 AM
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UnsteadyOwl posted...
He's been talking about them in positive terms and suggesting he'd pardon them.
He absolutely won't.

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Xatrion
04/30/24 12:12:54 PM
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DrizztLink posted...
He absolutely won't.

Yeah, this. Cheeto Benito will do anything to get back in the White House and pursue his mission of destroying our great country. Lie, cheat, steal, and even kill for it, most like.

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Heineken14
04/30/24 12:15:51 PM
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UnsteadyOwl posted...
The stuff about the people who were arrested for J6 is something he's been bringing up repeatedly on the campaign trail. He's been talking about them in positive terms and suggesting he'd pardon them.

It really seems like he's both doing it to keep his base fired up and to encourage his supporters to commit another act like J6 if he loses.

On the flip side, I had wandered into the AP youtube chat to see if they had any trial coverage and some of the dipshit cult were talking about how January 6th was a fed inside job. They're so fucking dumb. lol

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thronedfire2
04/30/24 12:16:51 PM
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UnsteadyOwl posted...
The stuff about the people who were arrested for J6 is something he's been bringing up repeatedly on the campaign trail. He's been talking about them in positive terms and suggesting he'd pardon them.

It really seems like he's both doing it to keep his base fired up and to encourage his supporters to commit another act like J6 if he loses.

he threw them all under the bus and sent them to prison but he still wants their votes


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UnsteadyOwl
04/30/24 12:17:36 PM
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DrizztLink posted...
He absolutely won't.
Like everything with Trump it's purely transactional. If he believes he stands to gain personally by pardoning them then he will. Otherwise he won't.

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DrizztLink
04/30/24 12:18:44 PM
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UnsteadyOwl posted...
Like everything with Trump it's purely transactional. If he believes he stands to gain personally by pardoning them then he will.
He won't.

They're sacrifices at best.

He's not going to take time out of his busy schedule of golf and diaper changes to bail out a bunch of people he thinks are failures.

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Kalk
04/30/24 12:19:27 PM
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Civil War

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kingdrake2
04/30/24 12:20:06 PM
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DrizztLink posted...
He absolutely won't.


despite the outcome, hopefully those bad people who participated in the insurrection still remain in prison for a long time.

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Westernwolf4
04/30/24 12:30:59 PM
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Independent voters: On the other hand, Bidens policies arent perfect and his dog bit some people. Ergo, these two political entities are equivalent.

MY VOTE MUST BE EARNED!!!!!!!

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bobbycorwin
04/30/24 12:44:59 PM
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DrizztLink posted...
He won't.

They're sacrifices at best.

He's not going to take time out of his busy schedule of golf and diaper changes to bail out a bunch of people he thinks are failures.

As long as they are felons they cant vote. Republicans are going to want to do a mass pardon to get their votes for 2026.

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Solar_Crimson
04/30/24 2:24:40 PM
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bobbycorwin posted...
As long as they are felons they cant vote.
Depends on the state.

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DocileOrangeCup
04/30/24 3:03:50 PM
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I kinda wish stone cold would have given him a shoot stunner 18 years ago

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ReiRei89
04/30/24 6:27:51 PM
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Funny how the anti Biden bros are absent from this thread.

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Umbreon
04/30/24 7:49:08 PM
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ReiRei89 posted...
Funny how the anti Biden bros are absent from this thread.

A deafening absence indeed.

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CADE_FOSTER
04/30/24 7:54:09 PM
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They continue to push 4 more years of Biden isnt survivable but Trumps fascist AMERICA is
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