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Zikten
05/05/24 9:19:42 PM
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They will think only our galaxy (which by then will be a merged Milky Way/Andromeda) exists. Because every other galaxy will have moved too far away for anyone in this galaxy to be able to see them or even know they exist

Unless records from our civilization survive, the future scientists will never know the truth
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Ratchetrockon
05/05/24 9:20:42 PM
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Sucks for them
I'm so happy I live in the past

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KajeI
05/05/24 9:21:17 PM
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Who's to say that hasn't already happened with us.

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MorbidFaithless
05/05/24 9:21:17 PM
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I wonder if after humans are wiped out, if another species of similar capability would rise.

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DoesntMatter
05/05/24 9:22:50 PM
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yeah it's pretty depressing tbh.

especially when you consider that we are probably in a similar situation. we have no way of knowing what's beyond the cosmic horizon as we currently can perceive it. maybe whole entire other universes or something used to be detectable earlier in our universe's existence, but they've since moved too far away and now we have no way of seeing them or even knowing they exist.

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PMarth2002
05/05/24 9:23:26 PM
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I assume we're talking millions of years from now?

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Zikten
05/05/24 9:26:33 PM
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PMarth2002 posted...
I assume we're talking millions of years from now?
Yea. It's not happening any time soon. But even in the very far future, possibly when humans no longer exist, life might still exist somewhere
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mystic_belmont
05/05/24 9:28:40 PM
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I mean, our sun is at it's mid-life. In a few billion years it will expand out to engulf us.

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ForsakenHermit
05/05/24 9:29:00 PM
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Bold to imply scientists know the true size of the universe right now.

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Waxitron_Gazer
05/05/24 9:30:29 PM
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bruh we figured out dinosaurs from millions of years ago back in like the fuckin 60s if not earlier.

technology has only gotten better we know about the big bang and shit

this is a very dumb topic fuck im just gonna stop

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Zikten
05/05/24 9:30:58 PM
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ForsakenHermit posted...
Bold to imply scientists know the true size of the universe right now.


Well true. But what I mean is in the future they won't know it's even as big as we know it is. Correct that we can't see everything, even now

mystic_belmont posted...
I mean, our sun is at it's mid-life. In a few billion years it will expand out to engulf us.
Well I'm more talking about some civilization somewhere else in the universe. Possibly scientists of a species that might not even exist yet
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DoesntMatter
05/05/24 9:31:26 PM
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Waxitron_Gazer posted...
bruh we figured out dinosaurs from millions of years ago back in like the fuckin 60s if not earlier.

technology has only gotten better we know about the big bang and shit

this is a very dumb topic fuck im just gonna stop
no, it's really not a dumb topic

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Zikten
05/05/24 9:32:54 PM
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Waxitron_Gazer posted...
bruh we figured out dinosaurs from millions of years ago back in like the fuckin 60s if not earlier.

technology has only gotten better we know about the big bang and shit

this is a very dumb topic fuck im just gonna stop
I'm not talking about a civilization that has our technology and past knowledge. Talking about scientists who don't even know earth ever existed. Some civilization that won't arise for millions of years still. Maybe their ancestors are alive right now but as primitive creatures
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Waxitron_Gazer
05/05/24 9:33:09 PM
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DoesntMatter posted...
no, it's really not a dumb topic
it absolutely is

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_____Cait
05/05/24 9:34:14 PM
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DoesntMatter posted...
yeah it's pretty depressing tbh.

especially when you consider that we are probably in a similar situation. we have no way of knowing what's beyond the cosmic horizon as we currently can perceive it. maybe whole entire other universes or something used to be detectable earlier in our universe's existence, but they've since moved too far away and now we have no way of seeing them or even knowing they exist.

Why is that depressing?

There isnt anything wrong with not knowing everything.

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Waxitron_Gazer
05/05/24 9:35:58 PM
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Zikten posted...
I'm not talking about a civilization that has our technology and past knowledge. Talking about scientists who don't even know earth ever existed. Some civilization that won't arise for millions of years still. Maybe their ancestors are alive right now but as primitive creatures
a lot of people have written this sci-fi novel

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DoesntMatter
05/05/24 9:36:17 PM
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Waxitron_Gazer posted...
it absolutely is
there literally is no way for us to know even know what lies beyond the cosmic horizon. due to the expansion of the universe, light from past a certain point at the edge of the visible universe will literally never reach us. and everything in the universe is moving away from everything else as the universe expands. so, sometime in the far future, all the other galaxies we see now are going to be past that cosmic horizon and there light will never ever reach the life that would exist here at that point in time.

comparing it to discovering dinosaur fossils would only make sense if there was a theoretical part of the earth's interior that we have never detected and will never be able to detect and will never ever even know that it's there, and there are dinosaur fossils in that.

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RetuenOfDevsman
05/05/24 10:10:04 PM
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Scientists today don't know the true size of the universe.

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Kim_Seong-a
05/05/24 10:11:35 PM
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If climate change or other disasters don't literally destroy the earth by then, the sun will. So assuming humans or their descendants are still around, I'd like to believe whatever technology we discovered that solved the "stuck on a single fragile rock" problem will also be advanced enough that we won't lose basic information like "there are other galaxies besides this one" >_>

Though the prospect of some other intelligent life being born into an era of cosmological isolation is an interesting one.

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Baron_Ox
05/05/24 10:15:37 PM
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this is assuming we lose our current records/data and what our descendents might uncover, right?

edit: just saw that in the OP

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Slaya4
05/05/24 10:20:32 PM
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That's assuming we even live past the merger

we won't

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Justin2Krelian
05/05/24 11:36:20 PM
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Unless we have super advanced FTL abilities

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vycebrand2
05/05/24 11:58:22 PM
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DoesntMatter posted...
there literally is no way for us to know even know what lies beyond the cosmic horizon. due to the expansion of the universe, light from past a certain point at the edge of the visible universe will literally never reach us. and everything in the universe is moving away from everything else as the universe expands. so, sometime in the far future, all the other galaxies we see now are going to be past that cosmic horizon and there light will never ever reach the life that would exist here at that point in time.

comparing it to discovering dinosaur fossils would only make sense if there was a theoretical part of the earth's interior that we have never detected and will never be able to detect and will never ever even know that it's there, and there are dinosaur fossils in that.
If everything was going different speeds this would happen. There was a post I made awhile back. What exactly the shape of the universe. Is it a sphere? A cone? If it was a sphere the sphere would fill the void. Think of it like a balloon. Expand too much beyond the borders and it goes POP! A cone it would have a point of origin. We haven't found it yet.

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Solar_Crimson
05/06/24 12:12:44 AM
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PMarth2002 posted...
I assume we're talking millions of years from now?
More like, trillions.

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