Current Events > Who do you think will win this presidential election?

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I'm certain Biden will win the election, what I'm not certain about is Republicans in enough red states challenging the election results leaving the actual result in question until the Supreme court is called to rule on it and we all know which candidate they'd toss it to. That's my biggest fear, people showing up for Biden, for democracy, yet the powers that be see the will of the people once again tell them "Fuck you guys you don't matter, Trump is your president!"

The larger the margin of defeat, the harder it will be for them to try to push that fuckery again. Give the Supreme Court nothing to work with in denying the vote tally. As much as I lack faith in the current make-up, they haven't been extreme enough to hand Trump wins on his claims of election interference thus far. As for the rest, we'll just have to make sure there are enough federal agents to take care of the nitwits trying to stage an uprising.

At best I could see them doing some fuckery where they just say states can do whatever they want in terms of electors. The problem with that is I don't see there being any red controlled states that Biden wins that will just say "nevermind, we're giving it to Donnie regardless of Biden winning."

Is this person real

It's really hard for me to see even your typical voter just being okay with the Supreme Court retroactively changing the results of an election (in effect) by retroactively changing the rules (in effect and in practice) and majorly changing the electoral process in this country. At that point, there would be no reason for someone to cast a vote for their favored presidential candidate, as the state leaders from past years' ballots would be the ones to ultimately make the call, regardless of where the votes fall.

They are well above average literacy for a Republican, but nothing else there is unusual. It's unfortunate, but there are millions of voters out there just like that who will happily vote us into fascism if they aren't outnumbered at the polls in the swing states.

It's really hard for me to see even your typical voter just being okay with the Supreme Court retroactively changing the results of an election (in effect) by retroactively changing the rules (in effect and in practice) and majorly changing the electoral process in this country. At that point, there would be no reason for someone to cast a vote for their favored presidential candidate, as the state leaders from past years' ballots would be the ones to ultimately make the call, regardless of where the votes fall.

Keep in mind, something like 75% of republicans think the 2020 election was stolen. They already DO believe there is no reason to cast a vote. Well, I mean, they don't, because their brains are THAT far gone and they still subconsciously know that they are fucking stupid and full of shit and keep voting.

There is absolutely no constitutional right in the US for citizens to vote for president. The only reason such votes happen is that the state legislatures got tired of having a presidential election tire fire in their chambers every 4 years, so they punted their state's electoral votes to elections.

So the Sleazy Six on the supreme court would have much more legal justification than is usual for their antics if they were to get a case from a state under Republican rule where the state legislature tries to overrule an election in Trump's favor.

lol

Im actually a registered democrat but thanks for assuming.

Hes the commander in chief. Whatever happens, its his responsibility. I would say the same for any president sitting in that chair. Own the issue and dont deflect.

It's really hard for me to see even your typical voter just being okay with the Supreme Court retroactively changing the results of an election (in effect) by retroactively changing the rules (in effect and in practice) and majorly changing the electoral process in this country. At that point, there would be no reason for someone to cast a vote for their favored presidential candidate, as the state leaders from past years' ballots would be the ones to ultimately make the call, regardless of where the votes fall.

Biden. Georgia and Maine-2 are the only flips I expect.

Trump has outperformed polling in the two previous elections plus the vibes around this nation is bad so I think he takes it.

He'll lose Michigan.

Yet at the same time Democrats keep winning races they shouldn't win. Now I'm not saying Trump can't win I just think the smaller elections are a better indicator than polling, which is frankly outdated.

And Trump repeatedly said he takes zero responsibility for anything bad that happened during his presidency. What do you have to say about that?

The Republicans gleefully did it for George W Bush.

Then they appointed two of the fucking guys responsible to the US Senate and the Supreme Court.

The Republicans gleefully did it for George W Bush.

Then they appointed two of the fucking guys responsible to the US Senate and the Supreme Court.

With Bush v. Gore, the margin of defeat, in terms of the electoral college, was not significant enough to bypass SC fuckery. When they can pin it down to one at-the-time swing state, it makes their job a lot easier. The hypothetical scenario in which states just have their own electors decide the favored presidential candidate is more drastic, even if it could fall within Constitutional framework, because voters today are not going to just accept it and move on with that being the new standard.

Republican voters will, as long as it means power for one of their own. And that's precisely the problem. If Trump were a lone fascist he would not be a threat. Trump the fascist with the backing of millions of fascist voters and hundreds of Republican fascist fellow travelers in various positions of power is a mortal threat.

because voters today are not going to just accept it and move on with that being the new standard.

I wish I had the same faith in them that you do. :(

I wish I had the same faith in them that you do. :(

Haha I understand where you're coming from because I don't have much faith in my fellow citizens either, but if people are going to have their rights stripped away from them, I think it would need to be done somewhat gradually.

I originally welcomed Trump's candidacy 2016, because I thought the GOP strategy back then of slowly whittling away at democracy was certain to work long term, and any disruption of that plan seemed good.

Now the reality is that Trump's ham-fisted and incredibly blatant assault on democracy is way the fuck too likely to succeed.

And Trump repeatedly said he takes zero responsibility for anything bad that happened during his presidency. What do you have to say about that?

Fake news. He never said he takes zero responsibility for anything bad. Leave it to a fool to spread disinformation like that.

Jeb

Name one bad thing he took responsibility for

Name one bad thing he took responsibility for

Biden isn't losing Michigan. lol

Was wondering what the dumbest post in this topic would be. Did not disappoint.

I don't know who's going to win and that's what has me worried.

Way to deflect lol.

I assume the fool meant "zero responsibility for covid", and not "for anything", since that was a real thing that Trump uttered: When Trump did publicly announce that he takes no responsibility for the slow testing rollout during covid, and that totally backfired on him (as it should have), he did a 180 and then said he took responsibility for the pandemic response (but not how it arrived to the US).