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I'm eyeing either Magick archer, Mystic knight, strider, or fighter. With Mystic knight and Magick archer being the main two. Not sure which to do. I know next to nothing of that game.
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Almost all the notice board quests are pointless but one gives you a two handed sword that can only be gotten from that quest and can last you until the post game if you want to use two handers

Wolves hunt in packs!
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When you rent pawns from the Rift, always check their stats/info. Make sure they actually have abilities, and for the most part make sure their inclinations (Pawn behavior) are good. Guardian, Nexus, and Aquisitor are generally avoided. They're not bad early game, but they (especially them) become noticeably incompetent later in-game. Note: that inclinations also play a factor in getting your pawn hired by other people so you can get those juicy rift crystals.

Inclinations are definitely something the game should've been clear about, check out the wiki page to learn more about it:

http://dragonsdogma.wikia.com/wiki/Pawn_Inclination
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Golbins are weak to fire
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magick archer is stupidly strong against everything but golems
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Using the charge attack for the mage on the offline Ur-Dragon is the easiest way to kill him and best way to farm for gold by selling what he drops

chill02 posted...

magick archer is stupidly strong against everything but golems

I've heard it's the "cheese the game" class.

ThineEnemy posted...

When you rent pawns from the Rift, always check their stats/info. Make sure they actually have abilities, and for the most part make sure their inclinations (Pawn behavior) are good. Guardian, Nexus, and Aquisitor are generally avoided. They're not bad early game, but they (especially them) become noticeably incompetent later in-game. Note: that inclinations also play a factor in getting your pawn hired by other people so you can get those juicy rift crystals.

Inclinations are definitely something the game should've been clear about, check out the wiki page to learn more about it:

http://dragonsdogma.wikia.com/wiki/Pawn_Inclination

I've heard inclinations are important, Thanks.

Axiom posted...

Almost all the notice board quests are pointless but one gives you a two handed sword that can only be gotten from that quest and can last you until the post game if you want to use two handers

I don't want 2h weapons tbqh.
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Anyone have any opinions on Mystic knight? I love battle mages.
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it's one of those meme games that is terrible but everyone memes it to be good
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CEs_EFG posted...

it's one of those meme games that is terrible but everyone memes it to be good

No. I've heard the combat is superb. Plus, ACG loves it, and he and I tend to agree a lot on games.
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Yeah I wasn't a fan of them either but stat progression is based around the class you are in when you level up and my final stat build had me leveling as a warrior for awhile

Axiom posted...

Yeah I wasn't a fan of them either but stat progression is based around the class you are in when you level up and my final stat build had me leveling as a warrior for awhile

I either want a sword and board/1h Mystic knight or a Magick archer I think.
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pres_madagascar posted...

CEs_EFG posted...

it's one of those meme games that is terrible but everyone memes it to be good

No. I've heard the combat is superb. Plus, ACG loves it, and he and I tend to agree a lot on games.

yeah i just didn't like it too much that's just my opinion tho
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The only bad thing about leveling is that if you want to optimize you have to spend a lot of time leveling classes that you might not want to play as. It's really not necessary, though. With endgame equipment and that right augments, pretty much anything works.

For fast travel, you keep an item in your inventory that activates it but you can only warp to portcrystals, three of which are set and 10 more that you can place in the world map. Acquiring portcrystals is kinda slow-going, though. I can probably send some if you want. Also consider looking at the game board because it's probably one of the nicest communities I've ever seen.
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Magick Archers are basically the nuke class. FWIR Mystic Knights really shine later in the game. In the beginning they can be underwhelming but in late game they're really good if you planned your stats out well

If you want magick archer and don't want to do mediocre damage, you might want to follow a leveling guide, which pretty much boils down to like 40 levels of sorcerer and 60 of fighter
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Quorthon109 posted...

The only bad thing about leveling is that if you want to optimize you have to spend a lot of time leveling classes that you might not want to play as. It's really not necessary, though. With endgame equipment and that right augments, pretty much anything works.

For fast travel, you keep an item in your inventory that activates it but you can only warp to portcrystals, three of which are set and 10 more that you can place in the world map. Acquiring portcrystals is kinda slow-going, though. I can probably send some if you want. Also consider looking at the game board because it's probably one of the nicest communities I've ever seen.

Good to know man. I'm at work now just planning my method of attack for when I get home.

Axiom posted...

Magick Archers are basically the nuke class. FWIR Mystic Knights really shine later in the game. In the beginning they can be underwhelming but in late game they're really good if you planned your stats out well

Cookie Bag posted...

If you want magick archer and don't want to do mediocre damage, you might want to follow a leveling guide, which pretty much boils down to like 40 levels of sorcerer and 60 of fighter

I kind of want melee I think. The more I read here in this topic and online, I think Mystic knight may be what I go for. I might follow a build online so I don't fuck it up lol
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You become a magic turret of doom with mystic knight if done properly though, its hilariously strong if you do a proper build with that too.

Sit in a place, drop your fields, and start spamming holy balls of doom, enemies get too close? they will get hit by the aoes and also activate more holy balls of doom, the enemy hasn't died and is inside your aoe about to attack you? do a perfect block, reflecting the damage, and SPAMMING EVEN MORE HOLY BALLS.

Seriously, that class is ridiculously fun, and the nice thing about it and mystic archer is that, if you do it properly, you can switch between the 2 whenever you want.

You could go full hybrid like i tried to do (you end up being a jack of all trades, i managed to beat the game with regular effort, both base and DLC, for what its worth)

Or you could do what most people seem to do, and lean towards physical or magical depending on what you want.

For example, a magic oriented magick archer can really fuck up a certain boss/miniboss thing in the DLC area with just the magic arrows, same for mystic knight leaning to magic with the post game boss.

or you could go physical and becomes a pseudo assassin with magick archer, since it also has physical skills that are shared with other classes, and your mystic knight can bash in enemies face with the huge fucking mace it has and a lot of physical enhancing skills, namely the elemental buffs.
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he's motivating me into rethinking my long RPG. either way i work it. reduces the unearned trophy's.
i think i'll try to restart dragon's dogma again after finishing my 5 plat gamelist, that dynasty warriors xtreme game can wait.

think i only made it to the 2nd town the first time but then i panic'ed because i missed doing a few quests :( and i couldn't get back but later figured how.
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If I want to do a Mystic knight focusing on melee with magic as secondary, how best to do that?
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pres_madagascar posted...

If I want to do a Mystic knight focusing on melee with magic as secondary, how best to do that?

I'd recommend you read this guide, specifically the leveling part of it

https://www.gamefaqs.com/xbox360/626514-dragons-dogma/faqs/67468
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Cookie Bag posted...

pres_madagascar posted...

If I want to do a Mystic knight focusing on melee with magic as secondary, how best to do that?

I'd recommend you read this guide, specifically the leveling part of it

https://www.gamefaqs.com/xbox360/626514-dragons-dogma/faqs/67468

I'll dig into that as I make my character then. Thanks. Are melee focused Mystic knights still pretty good or is that a bad idea?
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pres_madagascar posted...

Cookie Bag posted...

pres_madagascar posted...

If I want to do a Mystic knight focusing on melee with magic as secondary, how best to do that?

I'd recommend you read this guide, specifically the leveling part of it

https://www.gamefaqs.com/xbox360/626514-dragons-dogma/faqs/67468

I'll dig into that as I make my character then. Thanks. Are melee focused Mystic knights still pretty good or is that a bad idea?

i don't think it's a bad idea, sounds like my style of play.
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They're not exactly a bad idea, but blackbitter island, the DLC area you go after the main game, has enemies that mostly lean towards physical resistant, not saying they're completely immune to it though.

Thankfully, mystic knight has an arsenal of magic enhancers and stuff like that so it should be fine, might have some issues with the true last boss like i did, but that thing is just a beast tbh, and you can pretty much counter all this shit with the gear you find in the isle.
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Hmm. Perhaps I'll go half and half. That way my magic is as hood as my melee.
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A balanced build means you'll need a lot of Assassin levels pre-100 (stat gains change after lvl 100) and lots of Sorcerer post-100. I wouldn't really recommend following a build as a new player, though. Base stats don't matter as much as equipment and augments. The combat is the main draw of the game and there's good variety among the classes, try them all and don't worry about leveling. At least for a while.
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Just read the guide i posted, not as a bible but as a guideline so you at least have some understanding on how levelup and stat gains work, and that way you can set yourself a path to follow, i did that, i messed up a lot on the way (leveling the wrong class for 1-2 levels at times for example while leveling cross class skills) but i still ended up with a decent character.

You can leave the extreme min/maxing for another character if you want, but ill just tell you that with my mess of a half assed build i could beat the online super boss just fine.
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I just want to be able to clear the game and the dlc with my first character. Don't want to reach the dlc and realize I fucked up and can't proceed.
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With the hybrid classes, those are the destination, not the journey. You can play and beat the game with any class, but your stats will be suboptimal if you level as a hybrid class.
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Alucard188 posted...

With the hybrid classes, those are the destination, not the journey. You can play and beat the game with any class, but your stats will be suboptimal if you level as a hybrid class.

Hmm. What I really want is a sword and board with some magic, or a bow. Something to fall back on if melee won't work due to resistances.
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Assassin is pretty fun, and has strong stat ups on leveling. Magick Knight is pretty fun as well.
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Alucard188 posted...

Assassin is pretty fun, and has strong stat ups on leveling. Magick Knight is pretty fun as well.

Well, ideally I'd be a heavy armor wearing sword and board user who has magic or a bow as fallback
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Hmm
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If you haven't yet, you might hit bandits after going up a mountain-side path with wolves fairly early on.

They are extremely, bafflingly difficult.

Don't get discouraged here. You don't have to fight them.
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Dragon239 posted...

If you haven't yet, you might hit bandits after going up a mountain-side path with wolves fairly early on.

They are extremely, bafflingly difficult.

Don't get discouraged here. You don't have to fight them.

those bandit's started the opening impasse with the "finger". we have to take those bandits down in game.
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I disappointed in you CE. Not a single "Ant Tip" yet.
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Dragon239 posted...

If you haven't yet, you might hit bandits after going up a mountain-side path with wolves fairly early on.

They are extremely, bafflingly difficult.

Don't get discouraged here. You don't have to fight them.

I just did this part. It wouldn't have been so bad if there weren't like 15 of them at once along with wolves.

Honestly this game is really weird. Like the whole vibe of it is weird. Progression is weird. Not bad weird, just weird. Still trying to grasp with things. All the food I loot goes bad.
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Assassin is the best nonmagical combat class in the game. If you want serious damage output, class into it as soon as you can.

pres_madagascar posted...

Honestly this game is really weird. Like the whole vibe of it is weird. Progression is weird. Not bad weird, just weird. Still trying to grasp with things. All the food I loot goes bad.

Yeah, food items and perishables are literally perishables, where they spoil if you leave them in your inventory for too long. I usually don't loot them, unless I wanted to create a sour version of an item. Sour versions are one step before the item goes rotten, and it gives you enhanced recovery versus the basic version.
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Three basic tips that help especially if you're going magic archer

1) leveling up as certain classes affects your final stats at level 200. Your skills are almost all going to be magic based so stay as a mage line at least until you beat the dragon. The toughest enemies in the game will basically be fought with you hugging their hind side and stabbing away though so you'll never be hurt if you spend a few levels as a warrior.

2) you'll spam a few attacks over and over then wait for stamina to recharge then repeat. If you knock an enemy down though, feel free to use up your items to recharge stamina.

3) at some point you WILL need to level up other jobs for their skills and there's a lazy afk method involving mage pawns after the boss I mentioned earlier. My advice? Stay a mage til you can upgrade to the advanced version, then stay that to level 60, then stay a magic archer to 100, then abuse that afk spot to master the other jobs. Mostly you just want the passive skills but they're also the higher job rank unlocks :(