Board 8 > Ok Lefty, I decided to take your advice and begin watching Baccano (SPOILERS))

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KCF0107
07/06/11 8:30:00 AM
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For anyone who doesn't know, I am not a fan of anime. Despite what was said in the past, I am not part of the anime or mafia clique. It may seem odd that I would listen to lefty because we clash often with our opinions on the board but I respect and like the guy and I hope he feels the same. Anyway, he suggested about a year ago that I watch this anime because it caters to just about anyone, regardless of their feelings towards anime in general. Well, I finally got down to it and maybe I will make this a watchthrough topic of sorts. I will give a writeup from the first episode in a bit. In the meantime, I looked up and they have 13 episodes and 3 OVAs. What is an OVA and did I mess up by not watching them first?

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pjbasis
07/06/11 8:30:00 AM
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OVA (Original Video Animation) just means it was released only on home video.
You didn't mess anything up.

Haven't watched this particular series but I hear it's great!
I think Gankutsuou is another series that should be able to be enjoyed by anyone.
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edwardsdv
07/06/11 8:31:00 AM
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the ovas are bonus episodes that were dvd only and come after the main series

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tcaz2
07/06/11 8:34:00 AM
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Also don't worry if the first episode confuses the hell out of you, it will make sense later.

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KCF0107
07/06/11 8:49:00 AM
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Episode 1:

I honestly came out confused as ****.

The intro suggested that there will be a lot of characters and most, if not all, made an appearance in the episode. I feel like I should look at that intro over and over until I can correctly put names and faces together or I am probably going to have a hard time understanding everything as the show goes on.

Regarding the plot, I understand very little, but that's to be expected after watching one episode. What I do understand is:
- The beginning takes places decades after the events of the story and older gentlemen discreetly said that he was involved with the events of the past
- Mafia's main priority is this Dallas dude, who according to his wife (?) is apparently missing
- This gigantic group of people, including some who were pumped full of lead and lived, are going to board this train for reasons I don't know
- A few sections appear to occur after the train ride and **** went down

Well, there's some sort of supernatural element here. I hope that it is implemented well because it is probably the main focal point of the story and supernatural stories can easily be screwed up.

Overall, I liked it. Emotions weren't over-the-top or anything and if that is a strong indication of what's to come, I don't think that I will cringe much like I do for most anime series that I have seen

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KCF0107
07/06/11 8:49:00 AM
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tcaz2 posted...
Also don't worry if the first episode confuses the hell out of you, it will make sense later.

Well that's good to hear

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pjbasis
07/06/11 8:50:00 AM
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KCF0107 posted...
Overall, I liked it. Emotions weren't over-the-top or anything and if that is a strong indication of what's to come, I don't think that I will cringe much like I do for most anime series that I have seen

Pray tell, what have you seen?
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KimPilgrim
07/06/11 8:52:00 AM
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Man I make a topic every 3 months telling non-anime fans they should watch Baccano

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KCF0107
07/06/11 8:55:00 AM
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From the top of my head, here's what I have seen and liked:

- Case Closed
- Trigun
- Cowboy Bebop
- Black Lagoon
- Samurai Champloo
- Gungrave


As for what I haven't liked or felt pretty indifferent about, I will have to research what most of the names were

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colliding
07/06/11 8:56:00 AM
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tried watching this, didn't make it past the second episode


if I have no idea what's going on by that point, I'm just like "why bother"
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KimPilgrim
07/06/11 8:57:00 AM
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From: colliding | #011
tried watching this, didn't make it past the second episode


if I have no idea what's going on by that point, I'm just like "why bother"




The whole point of the series is that you shouldn't have any idea what's going on at the point.

It's the god damn primary concept.

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KCF0107
07/06/11 9:12:00 AM
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Well, here is a list of what I have seen, some all of the episodes and some only around 10, that I either did not like or felt indifferent about:

- Dragon Ball
- Dragon Ball Z (all the way through the Cell stuff)
- Pokemon (first season or whatever had to do with R/B/Y)
- Digimon (the seasons that dealt with Tai and the gang and then with Tai's sister and the gang)
- Bleach (watched this the least out of them all, but it was all just pretty stupid)
- Eureka Seven
- Yu Yu Hakusho
- Rurouni Kenshin
- Outlaw Star
- Star Ocean EX

I know there are more, but I can only picture them and don't really have a name that sticks out that I can research. Some of the worst fall under this category

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KimPilgrim
07/06/11 9:14:00 AM
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Aww you didn't like E7?

Well I admit it starts out slow.

Still my favorite series.

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pjbasis
07/06/11 9:16:00 AM
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You didn't like Yu Yu or Kenshin? Guess you're not a Shounen guy...
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neonreaper
07/06/11 9:19:00 AM
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See if you can outlast me, I made it 3 episodes into Baccaneono before I had to hit the eject button

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Shadow_Ryoko
07/06/11 9:21:00 AM
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fun show

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KCF0107
07/06/11 9:25:00 AM
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Ok, maybe some of you will know what series I am thinking of as I describe them in a pretty poor manner:

- A wolf-man, some little punk ass fox girl, a moody black-haired girl, some other black-haired girl who is cold and some dude who can summon a vortex at will. This one sucked

- A guy who rides a motorcycle lives with relatives and finds a naked girl in a tree and his best friend who supports his sister has the same thing happen to him. This is an absolutely disgusting series because it sexualizes pre-teens and was awful in every facet. I highly doubt I finished this one

- Some air pirate finds a girl in a coffin and I honestly don't remember jack **** about the plot other than the kid making the great mistake of giving up being an air pirate and a group of a small girl with a beret, a guy with blond hair, and some black chick who was like a slave to the blond haired guy was always hungry

- Some old, obese man took custody of a small girl after her father was killed and they went, along with two guys, to get his treasure back but some android woman with her android underling girls stand in the way and this cop loved, but didn't realize it, the old obese man because he surfed on a really high wave. Really?

Maybe I can think of some more later on

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KimPilgrim
07/06/11 9:28:00 AM
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- Some air pirate finds a girl in a coffin and I honestly don't remember jack **** about the plot other than the kid making the great mistake of giving up being an air pirate and a group of a small girl with a beret, a guy with blond hair, and some black chick who was like a slave to the blond haired guy was always hungry

Elemental Gelade

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KCF0107
07/06/11 9:30:00 AM
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pjbasis posted...
You didn't like Yu Yu or Kenshin? Guess you're not a Shounen guy...

Well there were parts that I did like.

For Yu Yu, I liked the dimwitted red haired guy, the three-eyed black haired guy, and the other red-haired guy who had a whip. The main character was awful and only got worse as the series went on. I did really like the portion that dealt with a tournament in another dimension

For Kenshin, I liked the main character and the tall guy with humongous sword. I also liked the part that dealt with the guy who was burnt badly and was wrapped in bandages. He was a good villain and that entire section was pretty entertaining. It really fell off the map once I had to hear that teenager who ran the dojo whine and whine about Kenshin and ****

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pjbasis
07/06/11 9:30:00 AM
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KCF0107 posted...
- Some old, obese man took custody of a small girl after her father was killed and they went, along with two guys, to get his treasure back but some android woman with her android underling girls stand in the way and this cop loved, but didn't realize it, the old obese man because he surfed on a really high wave. Really?


Coyote Ragtime Show
Literally just watched this

It wasn't that bad as long as you don't take it seriously! But it wasn't that good either.
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KCF0107
07/06/11 9:42:00 AM
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I thought of a few more:

- White haired boy has a fragile best friend and both get transported to another dimension. The fragile guy changes his personality dramatically about 5 times while the white haired boy is not open. There is a lot of death in this one. Also, battles are done by summoning things out of orbs on a weapon. A few character names were Noah and Mickey I think

- A guy with an eye patch rescues a small girl, Eve I think, who isn't human and some other kid tags along and wears a collar because the girl doesn't trust her. Many characters have numbers because they belong to a criminal organization I think and the kid with the collar had a number. He wants revenge for some girl being murdered. The plot was pretty convoluted

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KCF0107
07/06/11 9:45:00 AM
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KCF0107 posted...
A wolf-man, some little punk ass fox girl, a moody black-haired girl, some other black-haired girl who is cold and some dude who can summon a vortex at will. This one sucked

I can add to this one. The main villain is pretty much a god because nothing seems to kill him. Also, the wolf-man has a brother that he isn't on good terms with. Some woman with a bow does not like the wolf-man, and there are some episodes that take place in a city that is not in the same world as most of what I have seen

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KCF0107
07/06/11 9:48:00 AM
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Back to the main point of the topic though, I plan on watching either 1 or 2 episodes today

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pjbasis
07/06/11 9:48:00 AM
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Black Cat is the one about eve.

The manga was pretty meh, even as a fan of shounen.
And the anime just looked even worse.
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KCF0107
07/06/11 12:43:00 PM
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Starting episode 2 soon

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LordoftheMorons
07/06/11 1:46:00 PM
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Such a good series
The girl looking for Dallas is his sister.

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KCF0107
07/06/11 1:48:00 PM
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Episode 2:

A lot of character comments:
- Miria is kind of a basket case and Issac is always full of hot air. That combo means that they will likely provide a lot of funny and annoying scenes. I do appreciate them more after their interaction with the following character
- Not really liking this Jacuzzi character for obvious reasons and don't need to touch base on them
- Ladd is one crazy son of a ***** and I can't tell if Lua is like a hostage of sorts or what, given her reactions to the bloody thirsty group she is with.
- Poor retired conductor, I hope that even though you floating in the sewers is a sign that you are dead, I hope the opposite is the case

**** got real at the end but that brings up a lot of questions as more and more parties entered the fray as the episode went on. The ending just makes it all the more confusing as people are saying some pretty cryptic stuff. I am starting to think that "The Item" and "The Bomb" are the same thing but given all the different factions that seem to be here, maybe there are multiple items of interest on The *****foot, which I can't help but smirk after hearing its name.

Speaking of factions, this is what I think the groups are so far on the train:
- Men in white
- Men in black + older of the two conductors
- Child who hung out with the senator's daughter
- Jacuzzi, Nice, bartender, chef + those two large dudes
- Woman that got like 5 seconds of screentime while the train was still boarding
- Miria and Issac

Based on the stuff with Miria and Issac at the beginning, a few thoughts come to mind
- Ennis is an ally of sorts with Miria and Issac so all of those people with her in the first episode may very likely be on their side
- Ennis is not human, so Miria and Issac may not be human as well


Overall, I am intrigued by many factors, but the frequent over-the-top emotions that I do not care for have crept in at times. I don't feel as lost and confused as some of the other users have said after stopping after a few episodes, but only time will tell

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baron von toast
07/06/11 1:54:00 PM
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From: KCF0107 | #013
- Dragon Ball
- Dragon Ball Z (all the way through the Cell stuff)
- Pokemon (first season or whatever had to do with R/B/Y)
- Digimon (the seasons that dealt with Tai and the gang and then with Tai's sister and the gang)
- Bleach (watched this the least out of them all, but it was all just pretty stupid)
- Eureka Seven
- Yu Yu Hakusho
- Rurouni Kenshin
- Outlaw Star
- Star Ocean EX


I wouldn't like anime either if I watched those show :\/

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KimPilgrim
07/06/11 2:43:00 PM
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Baccano is one of those shows you wont be able to stop watching once you get going. Dont be surprised if you break your 2 episodes a day prediction.

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baron von toast
07/06/11 2:47:00 PM
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Don't be afraid to skimp on the 500 word essays for each episode either!

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KCF0107
07/06/11 3:23:00 PM
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The other shows that I describe also fall under the did not like/felt indifferent about category. I always have an issue with my writeup lengths. I don't want to make them super long, but I also don't want to just pass over things just to artificially shorten. I will try my best to not talk as much though.

As for you LtM, I never said that I was going to limit myself to 1-2 episodes every day. I just said that I will probably only watch that many today. There will probably be days where I watch none, or maybe even 3-4. We'll just see

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GoldSlime35
07/06/11 3:58:00 PM
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The show is confusing at times because there are 3 timelines being shown. How everybody met, the train stuff, and the search for Dallas. Starts slow but its great once they introduce Claire.

KCF0107 posted...
KCF0107 posted...
A wolf-man, some little punk ass fox girl, a moody black-haired girl, some other black-haired girl who is cold and some dude who can summon a vortex at will. This one sucked

I can add to this one. The main villain is pretty much a god because nothing seems to kill him. Also, the wolf-man has a brother that he isn't on good terms with. Some woman with a bow does not like the wolf-man, and there are some episodes that take place in a city that is not in the same world as most of what I have seen


Inuyasha

KCF0107 posted...
I thought of a few more:

- White haired boy has a fragile best friend and both get transported to another dimension. The fragile guy changes his personality dramatically about 5 times while the white haired boy is not open. There is a lot of death in this one. Also, battles are done by summoning things out of orbs on a weapon. A few character names were Noah and Mickey I think


Kiba.
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KCF0107
07/06/11 4:06:00 PM
#34:


Where the hell is lefty? I figured he would have posted here by now, unless I missed it somehow

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KimPilgrim
07/06/11 4:08:00 PM
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What did you dislike about Eureka 7?

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KCF0107
07/06/11 4:25:00 PM
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Awful characters, at least those who were most central to the plot. Some of the crew members were pretty cool, but they weren't main characters. Holland, dumbass kids, Eureka, pink-haired girl, villain, and bodyguard of pink-haired girl can go **** themselves. Talho and Renton weren't great either but they were at least tolerable from time to time

I also found it to be a series that had just a few good episodes and the rest ranged from mediocre to awful. I was only somewhat interested in the story, the mysterious girl who is of another race and harbors great secrets is just way overplayed and is almost never done well anyway, but it still managed to take a complete nosedive somewhere during the 30-40 episode mark and my interest just kept diminishing, but I still ended up finishing it

If I don't like a show's story or characters, there's no way that I will like it

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KimPilgrim
07/06/11 4:29:00 PM
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Alright, I disagree but I respect your opinion.

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KCF0107
07/06/11 4:37:00 PM
#38:


I just looked back at my descriptions for series and all I can do is laugh at how horrible they sound when I don't know character names or events in their entirety

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KCF0107
07/06/11 4:38:00 PM
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Anyway, I will probably watch the third episode after midnight EST

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KCF0107
07/07/11 12:18:00 AM
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Let's try a new writeup style

Episode 3:

Well, that crazy Ladd guy is even crazier than before

That was absolutely disgusting what they did to that rat. At least it died on impact....wait, I guess I spoke too soon.....no I didn't

Ah, there's your large black woman. I was wondering when one would show up

That head ruffian that fought with the old man is probably going to be, or maybe already is, a major factor in all of this since I am guess that he took those vials

Oh Nick, don't bring a knife to a gun fight

I was hoping that things would start to make sense but instead, more was just added to pile of confusion. Maybe episode 4 changes that?

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McMoogle
07/07/11 12:29:00 AM
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I watched the first ten episodes or so of Baccano about a year ago and never finished. I just can't bring myself to finish it. I had a good grip on what was going on I just couldn't stand the show's format of storytelling. Issac and Miria are the only reason I made it that far as they are the only characters I can say I liked. Everyone else was either uninteresting or irritating. Great opening though.

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Ayvuir
07/07/11 12:35:00 AM
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I think i watched like 4 episodes of Baccano! and it didn't grip me at all. I know its only 12 altogether so i should probably go back to it, but it felt very meh to me.

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Sceptilesolarbeam
07/07/11 10:50:00 AM
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Huh. I don't really get complaints that it was confusing. I mean, it obviously was a little, but I thought it was a neat format, and it wasn't incomprehensible or anything.

Incidentally, it doesn't really make sense completely until episode 6 (IIRC).

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KimPilgrim
07/07/11 10:57:00 AM
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I think some people just can't handle that style of storytelling.

Episode 4 is Isacc and Maria fantasticness

Episode 5 is Ladd Russo being a ****ing boss

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HeroDelTiempo17
07/07/11 10:59:00 AM
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I feel sorry for people who don't like Baccano!

It's a serious contender for best anime series ever.

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KCF0107
07/07/11 6:17:00 PM
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Oh crap, forgot about this already. I hope to watch at least one before I go to bed

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KCF0107
07/07/11 11:32:00 PM
#47:


Looks like I was too preoccupied with MGS3 and doing laundry. I will make up for it by definitely watching at least 3 tomorrow, barring any sudden events

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KCF0107
07/08/11 4:51:00 PM
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Episode 4:

This episode is a lot different than the rest because it really narrowed its focus to just a few things and nothing contained in them were confusing. The only thing that I think needs to be explained, which obviously will, is that creature at the end. Given that they showed Nice in a hurry, my initial feeling is that Jacuzzi is that creature.

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KCF0107
07/08/11 8:08:00 PM
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Episode 5:

I think that my initial monster theory is incorrect. Not only that but Jacuzzi is the head honcho for some gang?

Everything is really starting to come together now in regards to the events of the past. It is only a matter of time before everything becomes clear, so or I hope

What a dumbass goon. If you are standing still where a comrade mysteriously disappeared, you deserve to go out like that.

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KimPilgrim
07/08/11 8:10:00 PM
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Oh man you need to keep going

Reactions to revelations in this show are always so great.

You're making me want to go through my DVDs for a 5th time.

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