Rules: - Rate from 0 to 10 (one decimal place is fine, more than that and I'll round for you). I'd prefer if 5 were an average rather than 7. - You may vote for any games you want that have been rated before at any time. You may also change your vote at any time. - No alts, no joke voting, no “purposeful downvoting” - you all know this. - Please only vote if you've played enough of the game to be able to rate it. - You may nominate as many games as you want on any given day. Multiple noms of the same game aren't necessary. Spreadsheet with prior games/ratings: https://spreadsheets.google.com/pub?hl=en&hl=en&key=0Ap-Cxjhwem1PdFR5Wk1NUkhDX3NmM3NIU1hVaFFZY2c&output=html
Previous Game's Performance: 20. Shining Force (8.565 / 32 votes) 21. Dragon Quest VIII: Journey of the Cursed King (8.533 / 24 votes) 22. Tecmo Super Bowl (8.458 / 12 votes) 23. God Hand (8.443 / 16 votes) 24. Viewtiful Joe (8.400 / 32 votes)
Top 10: 1. StarCraft (9.328 / 38 votes) 2. Grim Fandango (9.223 / 17 votes) 3. Eternal Darkness: Sanity's Requiem (9.212 / 25 votes) 4. Crash Team Racing (9.112 / 32 votes) 5. Batman: Arkham Asylum (9.087 / 47 votes) 6. Civilization IV (9.080 / 25 votes) 7. SoulCalibur (9.021 / 14 votes) 8. Phoenix Wright: Ace Attorney (8.996 / 58 votes) 9. Perfect Dark (8.973 / 30 votes) 10. The Secret of Monkey Island (8.883 / 12 votes)
The few that have played Tecmo Super Bowl generally loved it
Today's game is often considered the black sheep of the series according to B8, but will the votes reflect that or will LeonhartFour kill everyone before that happens?
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Okay. Mostly bad characters with a pretty good main character. Battle system is just all kinds of screwy. Music is bland. Art style is bland. Awesome minigame. First disc is pretty decent at drawing me in before the story starts to swing south on disc 2 and never recovers. That. ****ing. Prison. Lame final boss with one part having very good music. Terrible main villain. It has a dude who walks around in front of a girl playing a piano and gets a leg cramp. It has an albino who talks funny. It features Gilgamesh.
Add it all up, and...
4/10
Below average game, but not all that bad really. It's somewhat enjoyable overall.
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Yeah that's what you get for mostly being in agreement with me in the other topic, fate had to arrange a reality check for us
Really, there's about two or three songs in the game that I can really say I like. That does not bode well for my overall liking of the soundtrack. And I really hate the kind of dull, faded out colour scheme in a lot of places and how empty the world is (which is another matter but it is involved in my general sense of "this world doesn't look very exciting"). The one area I'll give it credit visually is Quezacotls attack animation, which looks awesome as all hell.
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Even the worst game that I have ever played, Star Ocean: Till the End of Time, I would still rate it somewhere between 2-3. Unfortunately for FFVIII, It will receive a score closer to that than a 10. I haven't decided on the final number yet though
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I rather enjoy FFVIII's music and art style but I can see why someone wouldn't. I think it has some pretty gorgeous tunes and backdrops, personally. Huge part of my score goes to that sort of thing. Aesthetics.
I don't know that the world feels empty, either, but I think VII's and IX's feel... less empty.
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Just caught whiff of your sig resistance and I must say I have enjoyed the game but am I bit disappointed with squad control. Had I played the game before that kind of feature was refined like in Rainbow Six Vegas 2, I would probably like it more
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From: Jeff Zero | #019 I don't know that the world feels empty, either, but I think VII's and IX's feel... less empty.
Mainly the fact that there's these huge continents with absolutely nothing on them. The world is heavily squished into the north west portion of the map with the rest being 95% useless. It also doesn't help that most of the locations don't really stand out to me as being exciting/interesting places beyond my eternal curiosity at the capital of Galbadia being a mysterious land where geometry and physics are alien concepts whenever someone has a sniper rifle.
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From: Panthera | #028 Yeah. FFIX does at least try to explain that leaving the main continent is very difficult and dangerous, but that only helps, it doesn't solve it.
FFVIII explains the reason for a lot of its world being barren, too, but whatever.
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From: LeonhartFour | #031 FFVIII explains the reason for a lot of its world being barren, too, but whatever.
If you're talking the whole "monsters from the moon fall down" bit, then I'd like to point out that I think that's a completely wacky, poorly fleshed out plot point that makes no sense on several levels
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From: Panthera | #033 If you're talking the whole "monsters from the moon fall down" bit, then I'd like to point out that I think that's a completely wacky, poorly fleshed out plot point that makes no sense on several levels
You don't have to like it!
I just said they explain it.
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From: LeonhartFour | #035 You don't have to like it!
I just said they explain it.
Putting aside how good an explanation it is, it should be obvious why an explanation that a person finds to be the equivalent of eating paper towel would not enhance a game world much <_<
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I don't really like the whole "Most of the world is unexplored because we can't get there and it stays unexplored" thing FFIX does. If you're going to have a game where most of the world is unexplored, then explore the darn thing!
I think the gameplay and world make it an interesting game. The characters are mostly bad, though they work well enough in-game not to ruin the experience - but they're mostly forgettable. Story is the same way, but it has some nice standout moments. Pretty good game overall, but not great.
A seriously underrated game. I didn't like it as much the first time I played it (comparing it to FFVII the whole time like a noob) but then I went back and played it again a few years later, a lot better.
The game starts decently. Squall is an amusing character and I like the first disc quite a bit. The system is also fun to try and break, although drawing is very "zzz." Luckily later in the game you get to refine magic out of items, which makes it a bit less tedious.
Then Disc 3 comes along with its random ass plot development that I will argue to the death doesn't make sense and is poor writing that people only accept cause it's cliche for the main guy and the main girl to get together. The game just does a terrible job of conveying that Squall actually cares about Rinoa before that point... and okay, I get it, he's aloof. He should be hard to read. But we can literally see into his thoughts and there's still minimal hints that this is going to happen other than "well it's the leading guy and the leading girl."
Oh and while we're talking bad writing, the orphanage thing in Disc 2. But that goes without saying.
But yeah, decent gameplay and Squall held back by exceptionally poor writing and a weak non-Squall cast.
While we're talking better writing the "Squall is Dead" theory makes this game like 10x better. If that was actually what the intent was and they made it clear in the ending, it would be amazing.
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From: Lopen | #043 While we're talking better writing the "Squall is Dead" theory makes this game like 10x better. If that was actually what the intent was and they made it clear in the ending, it would be amazing.
No
Please, no
The theory that basically makes the game have no meaning (and I've argued about how meaningless the time travel kind of makes it feel under certain interpretations. This is beyond that even) because it's a completely irrelevant fantasy, robbing the story of any sort of payoff or conclusion or anything, in the name of being kind of weird, that theory would be better writing?
No.
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From: Lopen | #043 Luckily later in the game you get to refine magic out of items, which makes it a bit less tedious.
You can start refining within like the first hour of the game!
The game just does a terrible job of conveying that Squall actually cares about Rinoa before that point... and okay, I get it, he's aloof.
Pffft, FFVIII does a pretty good job of subtlely conveying the idea to me. There are lots of hints that I pick up on in that regard.
While we're talking better writing the "Squall is Dead" theory makes this game like 10x better. If that was actually what the intent was and they made it clear in the ending, it would be amazing.
You are earning my ire, Lopen
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I liked the story and think people overblow certain things like the orphanage to make it look stupid, but overall it was compelling. The characters were pretty cool too. I loved the music as well.
That said, sometimes its a bit slow
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From: LeonhartFour | #045 You can start refining within like the first hour of the game!
Yeah but it's not efficient till later.
From: Panthera | #044 The theory that basically makes the game have no meaning (and I've argued about how meaningless the time travel kind of makes it feel under certain interpretations. This is beyond that even) because it's a completely irrelevant fantasy, robbing the story of any sort of payoff or conclusion or anything, in the name of being kind of weird, that theory would be better writing?
You'd have to change the ending a bit, but I don't see how it'd necessarily lack a payoff. Basically you have to twist the story into Squall soul coming to terms with the fact that he's dead, and change some of the writing to drop stronger hints that this actually happened over the course of the game, but it'd be a spectacular "holy crap what" of an ending. This isn't really all that different from the plot of some other games and movies out there. (won't name names out of spoilers, but yeah, the story concept totally works)
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