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Weakupedia
09/23/11 3:06:00 PM
#1:


Stupid Item World

what the hell is going on

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Weakupedia
09/23/11 4:00:00 PM
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and now i'm fighting a level 500 random character

i'm never talking to anyone in the item world again

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Xiahou Shake
09/23/11 4:01:00 PM
#3:


Don't they only attack if you talk to them multiple times?
I've yet to be jumped. >_>

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Ayuyu
09/23/11 4:02:00 PM
#4:


You will someday get so strong that you'll be able to one hit kill that Chairman with a normal attack.

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Ayuyu
09/23/11 4:02:00 PM
#5:


And yeah they only attack if you talk to them repeatadly

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Natwaf_akidna
09/23/11 4:03:00 PM
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Back in Disgaea 2 DHD, there are a couple of mystery rooms that had you ambushed (though you need to talk to them first), and no exit portal available, IIRC. Though if you beat them, you get a couple extra Item Levels.

Dunno if it's like this though.

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Weakupedia
09/23/11 4:03:00 PM
#7:


ugh i hate this game already UGH

damn you NIS

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Weakupedia
09/23/11 4:04:00 PM
#8:


yep i just wasted the last two hours of my life in the item world only to end up game overing to these guys

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Ayuyu
09/23/11 4:05:00 PM
#9:


2 hours? Unless you're going at the bottom of a legendary item you're doing it wrong !

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3DSRage
09/23/11 4:06:00 PM
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I love Disgaea 4. 70 hours and counting!
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Weakupedia
09/23/11 4:07:00 PM
#11:


i dunno, i was gaining levels and nice items and money so i figured i'd try again

and then this chick gives me a gency exit so i figure she can't be mean

and then she kills me

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Ayuyu
09/23/11 4:07:00 PM
#12:


Only 47 hours or so, stuck against Zetta, Bastard is strong ! Though my level 4500 Desco could probably steal his stuff by now..

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Natwaf_akidna
09/23/11 4:08:00 PM
#13:


Finally somebody who fought Zetta! What's his pre-battle cutscene about?

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Xiahou Shake
09/23/11 4:13:00 PM
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From: Natwaf_akidna | #013
Finally somebody who fought Zetta! What's his pre-battle cutscene about?


More importantly, how awesome is his voice? I heard they got Patrick Seitz to do it instead of Crispin Freeman. Lame, though way closer than his Disgaea 2 voice I'm imagining.

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Ayuyu
09/23/11 4:16:00 PM
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Natwaf_akidna posted...
Finally somebody who fought Zetta! What's his pre-battle cutscene about?

*spoilers* t's nothing special, he's like '' Yo, I heard someone here defied God so I went in this Netherworld to meet him '' and then you fight.

Yeah.

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Ayuyu
09/23/11 4:16:00 PM
#16:


And the voice is okay I guess, I doNn't really care about male voices.

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Weakupedia
09/23/11 4:20:00 PM
#17:


what happens if i just ignore the item world for now?

will i just end up getting owned by a storyline boss that's level 5billion later

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Xiahou Shake
09/23/11 4:22:00 PM
#18:


From: Weakupedia | #017
what happens if i just ignore the item world for now?

will i just end up getting owned by a storyline boss that's level 5billion later


Item world isn't terribly important if you haven't finished the story, unless you're powering up a dark rosary for Val or something, then I guess it's kinda nice.
You shouldn't have to grind too much for story purposes, unless things have changed wildly. (I'm only on chapter 5, but I haven't really had to grind at all.) Even if you do need to grind, a few runs of something like 5-2 should be more than enough.

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Ayuyu
09/23/11 7:30:00 PM
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Or do like me, use only one Overleveled character to go through the story !

My Fuka killed the final boss in one hit. (She was like level 300)

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Weakupedia
09/24/11 5:13:00 AM
#20:


welp, i guess i gotta level a little bit

i just died twice on the stage where the prinny girl sends the emizel on you

why do i suck

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agesboy
09/24/11 5:19:00 AM
#21:


it gets better

don't forget to abuse magichange and fusion like a boss

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Weakupedia
09/24/11 5:21:00 AM
#22:


are magichange and fusion really that good

and i couldn't figure out how to magichange a fused monster, how does that work?

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red13n
09/24/11 5:37:00 AM
#23:


one thing is, a lot of the mystery room characters have no equipment, and in actuality, roll over quite easily(They are a good source of levels early on when you are first starting the postgame grind, which includes getting some reasonable weapons).

Mind you, some of them are occasionally really strong and shouldnt be messed with.

btw, using a balanced team, I was able to get through all the main story aside from the final boss without any grinding(Or item worlding being the required 10). Only named characters I used were Valvatorez and Fenrich, for that matter. Though Fuka was used for throwing people occasionally.

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agesboy
09/24/11 5:53:00 AM
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magichange early on is great because it gives stats to your lower levelled allies and lets you level a monster all in one. fusion's great because it makes the base monster's skills more powerful and hit a larger area; I wouldn't really advise fusing until you get the party member after emizel, then say hi to the best grinding machine in the game until postgame stuff

to magichange a fused monster, you gotta defeat an enemy with a level 100 fused monster.. or defeat a level 100 yourself, dunno. you get a bill for giant magichange you can pass. pass it as fast as possible imo

it's ten times more useful than regular magichange because it makes the user's skills hit larger areas, allowing extremely easy powerlevelling

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Weakupedia
09/24/11 7:56:00 AM
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this game has so much crap going on guh

also when do i get flonne

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Ayuyu
09/24/11 7:58:00 AM
#26:


Post game.

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Weakupedia
09/24/11 8:00:00 AM
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and that flonne is different from the dlc flonne?

sorry, i've got a lot of questions >_>

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Ayuyu
09/24/11 8:01:00 AM
#28:


DLC Flonne is Fallen Angel Flonne
Other Flonne is Archangel Flonne

And you can't use both at the same time.

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Weakupedia
09/24/11 8:07:00 AM
#29:


has flonne had her own storyline in D2 and D3 that made her archangel flonne? honestly i know nothing about this series after the first game except that flonne and etna for some reason keep appearing as cameos

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Ayuyu
09/24/11 8:09:00 AM
#30:


Nah, nothing explains it.

My theory is that it's an alternate universe or something.

Oh also Disgaea 4 Flonne is stupid as ****.

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Pram_the_Oracle
09/24/11 8:09:00 AM
#31:


D2, nope. Still a happy Fallen Angel. Dunno about D3.

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Ayuyu
09/24/11 8:14:00 AM
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IIRC it's the same in D3 but I never played it since it seemed to be the weakest Disgaea of all and Mao is a horrible character (I still watched my friend play it).

Valvatorez is all kind of awesome in comparison, easily the best main character imo.

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MrCarpainter
09/24/11 8:14:00 AM
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From: Weakupedia | #029
has flonne had her own storyline in D2 and D3 that made her archangel flonne? honestly i know nothing about this series after the first game except that flonne and etna for some reason keep appearing as cameos


In Disgaea Infinite, Flonne decided to apply for the ability to become an angel again for some unknown reasons, to the confusion of just about everybody.

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Tom Bombadil
09/24/11 8:22:00 AM
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Valvatorez is all kind of awesome in comparison, easily the best main character imo.

Now, I haven't played 3 or 4 yet, but I feel like them's fightin' words.

Laharl 4 lyef

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agesboy
09/24/11 5:42:00 PM
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Valvatorez's overwhelming love of sardines > Laharl's childishness imo

But Etna's still the best in the series, easily.

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Natwaf_akidna
09/24/11 5:50:00 PM
#36:


Meh Etna. Never understood all the love.

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Weakupedia
09/25/11 6:24:00 AM
#37:


when do i start unlocking classes

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Pram_the_Oracle
09/25/11 6:27:00 AM
#38:


You leveled up various classes?

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SupremeZero
09/25/11 7:30:00 AM
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agesboy posted...
to magichange a fused monster, you gotta defeat an enemy with a level 100 fused monster.. or defeat a level 100 yourself, dunno. you get a bill for giant magichange you can pass. pass it as fast as possible imo

Defeat a level 100 enemy with a giant monster.

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Weakupedia
09/25/11 9:22:00 AM
#40:


Pram_the_Oracle posted...
You leveled up various classes?

is that all i takes? i really want an archer

also why is fenrich suddenly attacking like 3 or 4 times in a row randomly

i put him on an evil seal that provides some kind of support attack with my thief, but he does it even when the thief is far away??

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Pram_the_Oracle
09/25/11 9:37:00 AM
#41:


Well, in previous Disgaeas, unlocking archers require a certain mastery in bows, but those are gone in D4 I believe.

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SupremeZero
09/25/11 9:53:00 AM
#42:


Archer requires a healer and a female warrior at least level 15.

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agesboy
09/25/11 1:11:00 PM
#43:


Heart Cannon activates whenever any ally attacks an enemy within attack distance of the ally within the symbol. So as long as Fenrich's standing next to an enemy, every time an ally attacks that enemy, Fenrich will attack them again. It can happen multiple times a turn.

It can happen with your thief if he's in the symbol, too, but your thief has to be able to attack an enemy! And move cancelling doesn't work here for some reason argh.

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Weakupedia
09/25/11 3:14:00 PM
#44:


should i be reincarnating my characters as soon as their next class unlocks? or just wait

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agesboy
09/25/11 6:42:00 PM
#45:


during the main game, nah. it helps, but it's not necessary and the grinding's a pain. it'll increase the character's aptitudes (meaning more stats from items) and sometimes let them get new skills so it'll be worth it if it's a character you really like using

post game, when you can train like a boss, do it immediately

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Natwaf_akidna
09/25/11 6:46:00 PM
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Yeah, just wait until you get an ending. Base classes are good enough to finish the game with.

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Weakupedia
09/25/11 7:48:00 PM
#47:


so there's no disadvantage to reincarnating too early or anything?

i think one of the reasons i didnt postgame in d1 is because i had no idea if i was screwing myself over.

disgaea could stand to explain a few things better

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Natwaf_akidna
09/25/11 7:49:00 PM
#48:


Nah.

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Weakupedia
09/25/11 8:09:00 PM
#49:


cool, thanks guys!

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Xiahou Shake
09/25/11 8:11:00 PM
#50:


This seems to be the most active Disgaea topic on the board, so I'll just pop in here. >_>
I'm on chapter 7 and hooooly hell this game is way too great. It's seriously like a perfection of the formula, so much polish, love and spirit. Characters and music are fantastic too, though that's no surprise. (Well, it's kind of a surprise how well the characters hold up to the Disgaea 1 crew, I might actually like this lot better by the end of it all.)

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