Makoto nerfs noooo ;_;
El Fuerte buffs YESSSS
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agesboy 11/28/11 10:18:00 PM #1: |
Makoto nerfs noooo ;_;
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LeonhartFour 11/28/11 10:20:00 PM #2: |
Cody buffs forever
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Weakupedia 11/28/11 10:24:00 PM #3: |
Here's Uryo's early tier list for 2012:
Top Fei Long, Akuma, C. Viper, M.Bison (Dictator), Seth, Makoto, Sagat, Ken, Cammy, Sakura, Rufus, Adon, Juri, Abel, Balrog (Boxer), Vega (Claw), Guile, Cody, Chun-li, Dhalsim Middle Yun, Yang, Gen, Evil Ryu, E. Honda, Ibuki, Oni, Blanka, Ryu Bottom Gouken, Zangief, Rose, El Fuerte, Guy, Dee Jay, Dan, Dudley, T.Hawk, Hakan Seems like all those changes to Gouken and whatever Fuerte got weren't enough! Granted, this is an incredibly early list and it's not even clear what version of 2012 Uryo was playing. -- XS2 is the only good Xenosaga game - Lady Ashe ... Copied to Clipboard!
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KommunistKoala 11/28/11 10:25:00 PM #4: |
Gief and Cody buffs brb buying the game
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Weakupedia 11/28/11 10:27:00 PM #5: |
Capcom should be posting the list up within the next day, S.Kill says Fuerte "got nothing but better". In preparation, here's what we have thus far:
Alpha changes: http://www.eventhubs.com/news/2011/aug/24/part-3-ssf4-arcade-edition-v2012-changes-dev-team/ Beta changes: http://www.eventhubs.com/news/2011/sep/20/new-blog-details-more-changes-ssf4-ae-v2012/ http://www.eventhubs.com/news/2011/sep/21/part-2-beta-changes-ssf4-ae-v2012/ Loktest changes: http://www.eventhubs.com/news/2011/sep/30/ssf4-ae-v2012-loketest-renewal-changes-dev-team/ The changes so far look pretty good overall, with a few oddities like Ryu's SRK change, EX Fireball from EX Flip for Akuma (wtf lol), and Cody and Gief getting buffed. Capcom also seems to have gotten a little overzealous with the nerfs to Yun and Yang, though Fei Long still looks pretty top tier. The 2012 patch hits December 13th. Also, in case you don't own SSF4AE yet, Gamestop is selling the game for $20 (both PS3 and 360) until (I think) December 3rd. Get hype! -- XS2 is the only good Xenosaga game - Lady Ashe ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Weakupedia 11/29/11 12:24:00 AM #6: |
A personal wishlist:
Cammy: - at LEAST make it so cl.HK isn't negative on HIT. there is literally no reason for this attack to exist as it currently does. - give her a normal throw range. as it is, she's got the worst throw range in the game for whatever reason. this would possibly be the biggest buff they could give her barring the return of tkcs (which is unnecessary). Cody: - reduce some of that damage or make his tornado less safe my god Bison: - slow down his walkspeed a little Blanka: - delete him -- XS2 is the only good Xenosaga game - Lady Ashe ... Copied to Clipboard!
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OmarsComin 11/29/11 12:50:00 AM #7: |
Fuerte "got nothing but better".
he is like the twelve of SF4. make him the worst character forever please. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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OmarsComin 11/29/11 12:51:00 AM #8: |
Blanka:
- delete him I like this ... Copied to Clipboard!
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agesboy 11/29/11 5:35:00 AM #9: |
sounds like they're making Feng Shui Engine on Juri even better
crap I can't combo in that s*** worth a damn as is gimme easy wallbounce into U2 any day plz -- "Duel audio? You mean like rap battles?" - termina_rzident KrahenProphet and Kana are on opposite ends of the Awesome Spectrum. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Biolizard28 11/29/11 5:38:00 AM #10: |
From: agesboy | #009 They kind of have to to give anyone the incentive to use it. -- I like how each new topic you make reveals such varied facets of your idiocy. - foolmo [NO BARKLEY NO PEACE] ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Bidoof 11/29/11 5:43:00 AM #11: |
From: OmarsComin | #007 What the hell is this? DIE MONSTER! YOU DON'T BELONG IN THIS WORLD! ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Biolizard28 11/29/11 5:44:00 AM #12: |
El Fuerte is lucky Blanka exists, or else he'd be the worst character in fighting game history.
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TheKnightOfNee 11/29/11 5:55:00 AM #13: |
I know they were toying with changing THawk's spiral input during some of the AE 2012 tests, I hope to god they do change it. I still have it auto-correct into a DP every now and then and it's annoying.
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ZFS 11/29/11 6:15:00 AM #14: |
Hey, they changed Ryu's cr.mk back to SSF4. Nice.
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OmarsComin 11/29/11 6:23:00 AM #15: |
El Fuerte is lucky Blanka exists, or else he'd be the worst character in fighting game history.
god bless you ... Copied to Clipboard!
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OmarsComin 11/29/11 6:34:00 AM #16: |
like for real, the whole point of Fuerte is to be awful and annoying, as far as I can tell. he's not a good character with a lot of weapons at his disposal. he's just a god damn pain to fight. that's what makes like 3S Twelve. 3S Twelve won't win a lot of matches but he will make your life awful the entire time you're playing against him. if you wanted to troll the internets I'd suggest those two characters in their respective games as your best bet.
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Weakupedia 11/29/11 9:32:00 AM #17: |
Fuerte's alright. He's annoying, but nowhere near Blanka levels of annoying. And GiPie's Fuerte is really fun to watch.
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transcience 11/29/11 9:37:00 AM #18: |
Fuerte is mega annoying. keep him bad so people can't random you out. the more options he gets, the less fun it is.
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KamikazePotato 11/29/11 9:46:00 AM #19: |
why does dudley still suck
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certain to fail 11/29/11 9:49:00 AM #20: |
Weakupedia posted...
A personal wishlist: Blanka: - delete him lol -- it's simple. just be nice. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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skull_bonek23 11/29/11 10:04:00 AM #21: |
Holy wow what did they do to Gief to make him so low now? Wasn't he like top tier in AE? Or am I still thinking about Super? Also they better fix Rose orbs or this game is a bust.
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Weakupedia 11/29/11 10:05:00 AM #22: |
To be serious about Blanka, they really need to tone down his slide. Active frames, range, and how fast it come out are all kind of ridiculous. I can't really think of any other singular change that would help fix Blanka, he's just fundamentally flawed.
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Weakupedia 11/29/11 10:06:00 AM #23: |
skull:
maybe not the answer you were looking for, but there's a whole lot of ambiguous setups here. this stuff plus Rose's newfound ability to link cr.mp from cl.mk is making me think about giving her another look. -- XS2 is the only good Xenosaga game - Lady Ashe ... Copied to Clipboard!
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TheKnightOfNee 11/29/11 10:07:00 AM #24: |
Either that or increase recovery time on the slide/make him closer on block, because if he does it from a mid-screen distance it's relatively safe on block. If it was easily punished every time like Bison's slide, it wouldn't be such an issue.
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Weakupedia 11/29/11 10:12:00 AM #25: |
oh yeah
what's the deal with bison being able to fadc his slide how super bogus is that -- XS2 is the only good Xenosaga game - Lady Ashe ... Copied to Clipboard!
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FFDragon 11/29/11 10:13:00 AM #26: |
Weakupedia posted...
S.Kill says Fuerte "got nothing but better". So ****ing HYPE -- If you wake up at a different time, in a different place, could you wake up as a different person? [HERO'S PLUNGE] http://img.imgcake.com/finegifdy.gif ... Copied to Clipboard!
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FFDragon 11/29/11 10:17:00 AM #27: |
And now that I read the rest of this topic you people are monsters for hating Fuerte.
Getting to like B rank with Fuerte in SF4 was like the pinnacle of my gaming year when it came out and I stuck with him through the even suckier times of Arcade, I deserve some buffs now dammit. -- If you wake up at a different time, in a different place, could you wake up as a different person? [HERO'S PLUNGE] http://img.imgcake.com/finegifdy.gif ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Weakupedia 11/29/11 10:20:00 AM #28: |
after the bs that was fuerte's ultra 2 i'm actually okay with him being forever low tier/average
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LeonhartFour 11/29/11 10:23:00 AM #29: |
From: Weakupedia | #006 Maybe you should play as someone who can actually punish it! -- "I can set you free, mate." "My freedom was forfeit long ago!" ... Copied to Clipboard!
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SemiFinal vs Belarus 11/29/11 10:23:00 AM #30: |
i for one welcome our new super dynamic cooking overlord
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Weakupedia 11/29/11 10:25:00 AM #31: |
LeonhartFour posted...
From: Weakupedia | #006 make his tornado less safe Maybe you should play as someone who can actually punish it! Cammy can punish it (with a standing jab), but it's still stupidly safe. Not to mention the fact that Cody can space it so that it actually is safe pretty easily. -- XS2 is the only good Xenosaga game - Lady Ashe ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Weakupedia 11/29/11 10:28:00 AM #32: |
But wait
why haven't we talked about the best change to AE so far? DAN BUFFS he seems like he could be a legitimately scary character this time around -- XS2 is the only good Xenosaga game - Lady Ashe ... Copied to Clipboard!
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The Mana Sword 11/29/11 10:30:00 AM #33: |
more juri buffs
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FFDragon 11/29/11 10:32:00 AM #34: |
Weakupedia posted...
waaaah i let myself get into a position to get ultra'd waaaaah Don't let yourself get Ultra'd then! -- If you wake up at a different time, in a different place, could you wake up as a different person? [HERO'S PLUNGE] http://img.imgcake.com/finegifdy.gif ... Copied to Clipboard!
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ExquisiteSamurai 11/29/11 10:37:00 AM #35: |
DAN BUFFS
he seems like he could be a legitimately scary character this time around Dan will never be a legitimate character and in all honesty, I am fine with that. Blanka -delete him THIS! -- Awaiting Final Fantasy versus XIII ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Weakupedia 11/29/11 10:48:00 AM #36: |
FFDragon posted...
Weakupedia posted... waaaah i let myself get into a position to get ultra'd waaaaah Don't let yourself get Ultra'd then! it was too good and you know it! that's why i don't complain about rose's orbs being nerfed -- XS2 is the only good Xenosaga game - Lady Ashe ... Copied to Clipboard!
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skull_bonek23 11/29/11 10:56:00 AM #37: |
Rose NEEDED those orbs to keep people off of her.
That video just had some guy knocking people down with different stuff and then doing soul throw mix-ups with the orbs. I figured that stuff out on the first day I got Super. To be fair I didn't watch too far into the video because I saw all I needed to in the first 5 minutes. Some of the regular throw stuff was pretty cool after a knockdown though. -- skull ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Weakupedia 11/29/11 11:20:00 AM #38: |
some characters just have s***ty wakeup options that you gotta deal with.
you can't have everything imo, despite what characters like bison might lead you to believe. and that video might be focused on a pretty basic and well-known concept with the orbs, but some of that stuff is pretty nasty and i don't think i've ever seen any of those setups used. granted, no one really plays rose, so that's kind of a moot point. orbs are mainly for pressure now, and they can be scary as hell. i wouldn't mind rose's ex scarf punch getting legitimate invincibility though, that's always been kind of dumb. -- XS2 is the only good Xenosaga game - Lady Ashe ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Shoenin_Kakashi 11/29/11 11:32:00 AM #39: |
Ultra 2 just had the damage.
Everything else about it kinda blew. Anyways, I look forward to Fuerte Boofs, even if he's still gonna be cruddy. Im looking more forward to Gen than anything. -- Nice catch BlAcK TuRtLe. But too bad your ass got SAAAAAAAAAAACKED.*tackles* ... Copied to Clipboard!
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SemiFinal vs Belarus 11/29/11 1:24:00 PM #40: |
i fully expect gen to be nerfed because capcom
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Weakupedia 11/29/11 3:58:00 PM #41: |
hasn't gen been constantly buffed
just no one cares because he's gen -- XS2 is the only good Xenosaga game - Lady Ashe ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Weakupedia 11/29/11 5:40:00 PM #42: |
http://www.eventhubs.com/news/2011/nov/29/ssf4-arcade-edition-v2012-final-official-patch-notes/
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Weakupedia 11/29/11 5:42:00 PM #43: |
http://static.capcom.com/streetfighter/downloads/SSFIV%20Arcade%20Edition%202012%20Final%20Change%20List%20-%20US.pdf
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Weakupedia 11/29/11 6:11:00 PM #44: |
cammy got nothing :(
Hard Spiral Arrow - Changed active periods from (first hit) 2F + 17F to 7F + 12F. (Overall active period unchanged.) i don't even know what this means really and lol people thinking her SBF change is a nerf people are just ready to complain about everything even when they don't know what they're talking about cody can't FADC after bad spray, thank god -- XS2 is the only good Xenosaga game - Lady Ashe ... Copied to Clipboard!
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transcience 11/29/11 6:33:00 PM #45: |
Viper got killed
Fei got assassinated -- add the c and back away iphonesience ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Weakupedia 11/29/11 6:40:00 PM #46: |
uh what
viper is mostly intact, losing throw invuln on ex ground pound is a big hit, but definitely not a game changer. and fei lost damage, but that's kind of it. unless his rekka's are unsafe on block now. then he's low tier. -- XS2 is the only good Xenosaga game - Lady Ashe ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Weakupedia 11/29/11 11:06:00 PM #47: |
you guysssss
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Blairville 11/29/11 11:21:00 PM #48: |
I wonder if Hakan will make it out of bottom tier
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TheKnightOfNee 11/29/11 11:37:00 PM #49: |
Demon Flip Punch (Hyakki Gosho) - Changed from an overhead attack to a mid attack.
Is this taking away most of Akuma's demon flip game? Looks like you can block low unless it switches to the dive kick now, which is the easiest thing to see coming. That's an overhead, right? Well uh THawk got some of the changes he needed. That d+HK change makes the fight against Sagat possible, and EX dive being projectile invincible helps that a bit too along with Guile. Maybe the other moves might make useless moves have some value, or it might just be useless moves getting useless buffs. -- ONLY FIVE CAN LADDER. Sushi, kamikaze, fujiyama, nippon-ichi... ... Copied to Clipboard!
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transcience 11/30/11 7:04:00 AM #50: |
Fei's rekkas should be unsafe past the first one, yeah, which means no hit confirm. chicken wing damage got killed and it won't do that cheap crossup damage anymore.
Viper game is all mixup so to lose ex ground pound to throw techs is a big blow. I can't look at the changes now but I think they also hit her tk. the top 6 in AE all got hit with a nerf bat pretty good. -- add the c and back away iphonesience ... Copied to Clipboard!
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