Board 8 > Touhou Mafia - Topic 8: Argue For and Against

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Drakeryn
02/13/12 3:08:00 PM
#1:


The living: (13)

1. _Regaro_
2. Achromatic
3. Dark_Spiral
4. Fett0001
5. htaeD
6. jdizzy156
7. KingKracko
8. MajinZidane
9. Mr_Vaga
10. Raka_Putra
11. Silverliner182V
12. Tom Bombadil
13. UltimaterializerX


Dead parrots:

[KD1] masterplum - Yuyuko Saigyouji, SCUM Assassin
[LD1] eaedwards6400 - Letty Whiterock, Vanilla TOWN
[MKN1] catastrophy15 - Hina Kagiyama, Vanilla TOWN
[KN1] UltimaterializerX - ???
[KN1] XIII_rocks - Yoshika Miyako, TOWN Zombie
[KD2] Dante - Parsee Mizuhashi, Vanilla TOWN
[LD2] NewerShadow - Rinnosuke Morichika, Vanilla TOWN
[MKN2] greengravy294 - Yukari Yakumo, Vanilla TOWN
[MKN2] Articuno2001 - Nitori Kawashiro, TOWN Inventor
[MKN2] 36Eagles10 - Shikieiki Yamaxanadu, TOWN Judge
[MKN2] SBell0105 - Tewi Inaba, TOWN Roleblocker
[KD3] WalrusJump - Marisa Kirisame, SCUM Godfather
[LD3] Not_an_Owl - Nue Houjuu, SCUM Unidentifier
[KN3] Drakeryn - Patchouli Knowledge, TOWN Librarian
[KD4] Luis_Sera89 - Suika Ibuki, SCUM Pandemoniac


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Raka_Putra
02/13/12 3:08:00 PM
#2:


Tag

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Articuno2001
02/13/12 3:09:00 PM
#3:


Tag

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Tom Bombadil
02/13/12 3:09:00 PM
#4:


From: Achromatic | Posted: 2/13/2012 5:07:41 PM | #482
So if I wasn't unkillable it'd be easier to swallow?


Slightly. Still wouldn't buy you though, after four dayshots that you have yet to prove you can not use.

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Achromatic
02/13/12 3:09:00 PM
#5:


Okay well, I think it may be time to tell the truth about my role. I think scum might just ragequit on the spot <_<.

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Tom Bombadil
02/13/12 3:11:00 PM
#6:


are you ba'al in a reimu mask

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Raka_Putra
02/13/12 3:11:00 PM
#7:


Going to class now, but I've read everything so far.

And yeah, I wouldn't object to you telling us your role, Chris.

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Dark_Spiral
02/13/12 3:12:00 PM
#8:


By the way spiral, if you are seriously running a gambit where you're actually AYA, TOWN news reporter and not actually tracker/watcher + news reporter, then you had better say this right now because town will lose after two town lynches in a row.

You will have literally single-handedly lost us the game. On a gamble.


If you're hoping I'm gambling here you're going to be sorely disappointed. You're screwed Silver. Game over. The flaw in your attack is that I don't need to tell you what your scum role is, frankly I've no idea. What I do know is that I caught you visiting Raka, which means you're a lying scumbag that needs to go. That's pretty much it.
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htaeD
02/13/12 3:12:00 PM
#9:


I also like how Silver says Spiral is the last scum
but then he says town will lose in 2 mislynches if Spiral turns out to be scum

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Silverliner182V
02/13/12 3:13:00 PM
#10:


hey Silver, now everyone can finally see just how black and white your reasoning is

So Raka is alive and well, and voting. And talking.

What was my role? You have not answered this. Nobody has answered this, because almost all of you are bad players.

From raka and spiral's claims ALONE:
I'm not the silencer.
I'm not the roleblocker.
I'm not the assassin.
I'm not the unidentifier.
I'm not the "pandemoniac"
I am also not the role that cut voting time in half on D2.
I'm not vanilla scum.
I'm not the godfather.

Good job, I'm not scum. Go back to school and learn critical thinking.

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Tom Bombadil
02/13/12 3:13:00 PM
#11:


I already stated you could be scanner.

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ImTheMacheteGuy
02/13/12 3:13:00 PM
#12:


Tag. Nicely done Chris. Luis was my next choice to lynch. If I had been around I would've supported shooting him so again well done. Still catching up in previous topic at the moment

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Achromatic
02/13/12 3:13:00 PM
#13:


I am a day vig who can shoot once per a day, in an unlimited fashion. This is the part you know.

I claimed untargetable. That was a lie. I am not, in any way shape or form an untargetable. However Arti was nice enough to gift me a hydro camo or something or another and it allowed me, for one night, to become untargetable. I was able to use this invention night 2.

Now the part that I have kept hidden but see no reason to do so any longer: I'm cop.

I scanned Sbell innocent night 1 and it is why I tried to pass off my scan as the invention before Arti was a dumbass, and why I shot dante: He was accusing someone I literally knew was town for being a roleblocker.

Also go back to when Walrus got ganked by me and look at the question I asked him. Then look how fast I blew his head off.

Isn't this a fun game?

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Raka_Putra
02/13/12 3:14:00 PM
#14:


What about poisoner?

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Dark_Spiral
02/13/12 3:14:00 PM
#15:


So Reg is still questionable?
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Tom Bombadil
02/13/12 3:14:00 PM
#16:


yes add some more powers that will make me believe you

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Achromatic
02/13/12 3:15:00 PM
#18:


The proof is in the pudding, really. The Walrus shot makes it hilariously obvious that I am a cop. Take your time.

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KingKracko
02/13/12 3:16:00 PM
#20:


Tom I have a question for you. You said in your claim that you could speak to a person outside of this topic as one of your powers, and that you targeted Dante N1. Was that a one-time power?

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Achromatic
02/13/12 3:16:00 PM
#21:


From: WalrusJump | #105
I am Marisa Kirisame, TOWN Magician.

I can check my Grimoire each night to determine the threat level of a player: it's based on flavor but it has correlation with roles. high threat seems to imply scum.

I've scanned Boko night one - he's a low threat.

This is essentially a renamed cop. The claims so far make me doubt Drak and jdizzy - but I've seen flavorcop and cop in the same game. Jdizzy's role doesn't mesh with Spiral's and I want him dead anyway.

##Vote: jdizzy


From: Achromatic | #106
Renamed cop huh.


From: Achromatic | #118
Walrus I have a question. If someone were to claim straight up cop given your role, would you lynch them?


From: WalrusJump | #123
If someone did what amounted to a counterclaim of my role I would lynch them. Is that a serious question?

[quoted text]

Why would ulti mention spiral as town in the paper? You're reaching again.

A scummate is more likely if Spiral is scum, but it's more likely that he's town. It seems like too convoluted a process for scum to go through.


From: Achromatic | #124
Oh okay just checking.

##exterminate: Walrus.



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Tom Bombadil
02/13/12 3:16:00 PM
#22:


Nope. Talking to Spiral RIGHT NOW.

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Raka_Putra
02/13/12 3:16:00 PM
#23:


I was able to use this invention night 2.
But wasn't scum the only one who can act in N2? Or does using an invention not count?

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Achromatic
02/13/12 3:17:00 PM
#24:


From: Raka_Putra | #023
I was able to use this invention night 2.
But wasn't scum the only one who can act in N2? Or does using an invention not count?


Well clearly using an invention doesn't count I was able to.

Much to scum's bitter tears I am sure.

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KingKracko
02/13/12 3:17:00 PM
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Makes sense by you two defending each other, thank you.

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Dark_Spiral
02/13/12 3:18:00 PM
#27:


I'd be up for lynching Spiral regardless of what Silver flips. He literally took my exact role from BioShock and fakeclaimed it, only it has some host flavor junk attached. You'd think he would have at least bothered renaming the fake role when I was the MVP of that game.

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Tom Bombadil
02/13/12 3:18:00 PM
#28:


From: Achromatic | Posted: 2/13/2012 5:17:20 PM | #024
Well clearly using an invention doesn't count I was able to.


XMFD

did you just get outsmarted by raka

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Tom Bombadil
02/13/12 3:19:00 PM
#30:


From: Dark_Spiral | Posted: 2/13/2012 5:18:08 PM | #027
I don't think Tom appreciates you trying to rail me before tomorrow even starts. What do you think, buddy?


I shall put 'im t'rew a tayble if they doubt

danta would have it no other way

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Achromatic
02/13/12 3:19:00 PM
#31:


From: Tom Bombadil | #028
XMFD

did you just get outsmarted by raka


Um, he asked a question and I answered it?

lmao.

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Tom Bombadil
02/13/12 3:20:00 PM
#33:


hey ulti

hey hey ulti

spiral is town imo

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Achromatic
02/13/12 3:20:00 PM
#34:


If you think I am lying after reading post # 21 of this topic you are truly without hope as a member of the mafia community tbh.

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Tom Bombadil
02/13/12 3:20:00 PM
#35:


From: Achromatic | Posted: 2/13/2012 5:19:12 PM | #031
Um, he asked a question and I answered it?

lmao.


yes he called you out on your slip and you had to cop to it

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Achromatic
02/13/12 3:20:00 PM
#36:


By the way how does you talking to someone outside of the game confirm them town.

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Silverliner182V
02/13/12 3:21:00 PM
#38:


and yes, I am angry today because I am ****ing furious that you guys are being led around like morons. Like, wow. Lynching me is the worst play in board 8 history.

Tom: I cannot be the scanner, because I did not act on night one. There is no reason for me to do nothing on night one when I'm a mafia scanner. Think of the knowledge the mafia would have had at that point in the game, they would want a scan immediately.

Poisoner wouldn't make sense either -- I would have poisoned on night one or night two. Definitely night two so the scum would press the advantage. I would have poisoned Chris after his "untargettable by night kill" claim, because poison bypasses doc protection; spiral would have worked as well, because he's being protected by the doctor. Drakeryn works as well, because he's a smart player who claimed flavor cop.

Again, you find scum not only by analyzing people's posts, but by analyzing the night actions scum has taken. The actions the scum faction took and "me being scum" do not fit. At all.

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Achromatic
02/13/12 3:21:00 PM
#39:


From: Tom Bombadil | #035
yes he called you out on your slip and you had to cop to it


...Slip? I made no slip...

Inventions don't count as an action it seems. I didn't 'cop' to it (good pun btw) I told it straight lol.

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Achromatic
02/13/12 3:23:00 PM
#41:


You know after this game I am even more convinced lying to town as town is the smart choice.

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Dark_Spiral
02/13/12 3:23:00 PM
#42:


Dizzy got replaced by Machete.
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Tom Bombadil
02/13/12 3:23:00 PM
#43:


From: Achromatic | Posted: 2/13/2012 5:21:34 PM | #039
Inventions don't count as an action it seems.




Don't buy it. For a second. Even less so after you failed to mention it.

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htaeD
02/13/12 3:23:00 PM
#44:


actually I thought Chris survived thanks to the invention all along
just didnt want call attention to it because I didnt want scum to think they could kill Chris

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Achromatic
02/13/12 3:24:00 PM
#45:


From: Tom Bombadil | #043
Don't buy it. For a second. Even less so after you failed to mention it.


...Failed to mention what?

From: Achromatic | #013
I am a day vig who can shoot once per a day, in an unlimited fashion. This is the part you know.

I claimed untargetable. That was a lie. I am not, in any way shape or form an untargetable. However Arti was nice enough to gift me a hydro camo or something or another and it allowed me, for one night, to become untargetable. I was able to use this invention night 2.

Now the part that I have kept hidden but see no reason to do so any longer: I'm cop.

I scanned Sbell innocent night 1 and it is why I tried to pass off my scan as the invention before Arti was a dumbass, and why I shot dante: He was accusing someone I literally knew was town for being a roleblocker.

Also go back to when Walrus got ganked by me and look at the question I asked him. Then look how fast I blew his head off.

Isn't this a fun game?


Do I need to paint gold stars around it?

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Tom Bombadil
02/13/12 3:25:00 PM
#46:


You got prostied N1, right? But do we know you DIDN'T poison N2?

heck you could've gotten RB'd, yes

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Tom Bombadil
02/13/12 3:25:00 PM
#47:


oh I forgot about that

still don't buy it though

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Achromatic
02/13/12 3:26:00 PM
#48:


You know what.

I don't give a flying **** what a trash tier player like you thinks. You got ass raped by me years ago because I am just so much smarter than you and you've been a bitter useless sack of donkey piss since. You are paranoid and you don't use any logic against me. You are literally worse than spiral. I mean my posts in places make it very obvious I am cop if you would only look but you don't. So **** off and die.

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Silverliner182V
02/13/12 3:27:00 PM
#49:


That is true ulti, but I'm really worried about the small possibility that spiral is overconfident in his scumhunting skills and is making a gambit. However, if that's true, spiral deserves to be perma-banned from mafia <_<

There could also be a role that messes with results, but given the nature of spiral's role and what he claimed happen, I think that's unlikely. It would fit the flavor of a certain touhou character, though.

By the way, if Chris dies tonight, lynch Raka for not protecting him. Do not listen to any 'claimed' scan or similar BS.

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htaeD
02/13/12 3:27:00 PM
#50:


and there are still too many roles HGR could have made up for Silver
heck he could just be Jack who only now used his Poison

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