Right now I'm a little less than 500 pages through ASoS (I'm at the beginning of Davos's chapter on page 488 for "don't spoil things beyond this point" purposes), and I felt like summarizing a few of my thoughts on the book so far. I'm also kind of hoping that as I go along this might help me get a few small questions answered without me constantly making the mistake that is visiting the SoIaF wiki that has burned me so many times. That said, here are my thoughts on the plots so far:
The Wall: I do not like the wildlings; the only one that really seems at all likeable so far is Tormund. I also don't really like Mance so far. I guess I was expecting him to be a bit less of a dick. I am more interested in Sam's story, if only because the Others are much more interesting antagonists. I also was really not expecting that Mormont would be killed by Watch members. I'm hoping Tywin's plot to instate Janos Slynt as Lord Commander doesn't go through; he's a good super-slimy character, but I don't think he has the potential to be a solid antagonist in a position of that much authority. At the same time, I'm assuming something will come of that (Chekov's gun and all).
Jaime: This is a pretty cool storyline. As expected, Jaime Lannister is a much more complicated character than he might appear to the casual observer. Everyone reviles him as an oathbreaker for killing Aerys, while really it was probably his finest hour. I've really enjoyed his introspection (and the "flashbacks," for lack of a better term, to the days when he first joined the Kingsguard). I've also been pleasantly surprised by his protection of Brienne from the Brave Companions. While at his core Jaime just wants to be free to pursue his passions (read: Cersei), it turns out he isn't completely selfish. In fact, he even surprises himself. I was most surprised when Hoat had that random Dothraki cut off his hand though. I think I actually like this development, because it sets up Jaime as a character that will have to solve his problems through means other than brute force, which I think will aid in his character development.
Davos: Not much has happened here, beyond the main revelation that he's still alive. Makes sense though; we need a PoV character to give us insight into the world of Stannis Baratheon. I like Davos and his purpose (Melisandre is pretty clearly bad news), but I don't think he'll hit his full potential until he fully realizes that if he wants to save Stannis, he's going to have to get him to give up on being king. I don't see any way for Stannis to succeed without destroying himself.
I'll do a few more writeups to this point in a bit.
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Bran: This storyline has been pretty boring, mostly because basically nothing has happened. The one interesting thing was the story about the tournament at Harrenhal. This is one of the things I spoiled myself on (specifically a description to actual character conversion list). For some reason I had thought the king in question actually was Harren; things were much more interesting after I saw the list. Oops.
Dany: slaves, huh. I definitely saw the plan coming as soon as Dany said she was willing to part with a dragon, though I don't know how she plans to feed an army. Jorah/Dany is pretty creepy when you consider the age difference, even if that sort of stuff is not super rare in ASoIaF. I want to know what the deal with Whitebeard is; not much else to say here though.
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pretty decent book so far. kinda cool how jaime is actually a sympathetic character in this one while i hated him in the first
Oh man so close
Arya: Arya is fantastic. She is (with the possible exception of Tyrion) my favorite living character in the books at the moment, and now she is in involved with the character I was most excited to learn about in this book, Beric Dondarrion. Arya is fast becoming a dangerous character to cross; in book one we saw her accidentally kill a stable boy, and in book two we saw her progress to killing people through Jaqen (imagine how different things would have been if she had picked an important name like Tywin Lannister!) to killing a guard she had no specific hatred for at the end of the book (kinda disappointed they cut that from the show by the way). I can only imagine what she'll do in ASoS, and I wouldn't want to cross her once she grows up. The rage she felt for Sandor Clegane is palpable, and it sets up a really interesting dilemma for the reader, who can now understand and perhaps empathize with both characters (which was not true at the time Sandor killed Mycah). I really loved that scene; The Hound could beat almost any man in a fair fight, but the fire is doing psychological damage a normal weapon never could. Even though Arya can see the terror in his eyes, though, she is unrelenting; he's on the list, he killed her friend, he needs to die. Beric makes the scene though, rising from the grave to respond to Arya's "You just go to hell!": "He has."
Beric and Thoros are the other reason I am interested in the plot, as mentioned above. I confess I had already heard about Beric's ability to defy death, and I had already wanted to know of his quest since he was first sent to bring the King's Justice to The Mountain at the behest of Ned Stark. This was amplified in book two when we see from The Tickler that the Brotherhood has been a serious thorn in the side of the Lannister army. It really makes you wonder how this could be; Beric went off with not much more than 100 men, and they had reportedly been crushed by Gregor. I'm not sure what gives Dondarrion his powers, but I do know this: I want to know more. Then there's the matter of Thoros: I knew he was a red priest like Melisandre, but from the descriptions given he didn't seem particularly devout. Now we find, though, that he's apparently converted the entire Brotherhood without Banners to the religion. From what we know of Melisandre this seems like it could be a bad thing; just what's going on here?
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King's Landing: So now Tywin's back, and he's brought the Tyrells with him. The Queen of Thorns is certainly interesting, though I don't know what her plan is now that Sansa can't marry her grandson. Tywin is a huge dick (if he doesn't give Casterly Rock to Tyrion, who's it supposed to go to?), but unlike Joffrey he's evil in such a way that you can still like him. I'm really curious as to what Tywin will do if/when he finds out about Cersei/Jaime; he's clearly a man quite fond of his reputation. On the other hand, Tywin being back in charge means that Tyrion's powers have diminished; he's going to have to build his way back up, and with a much more dangerous person than Cersei to catch his mistakes. Then there's the matter of the marriage; I don't really know what to say about that. I'm glad Tyrion didn't go through with the consummation, as I can't really imagine how awkward a scene that would be to read. Then there's Cersei's possible wedding; can't imagine Jaime will be too happy about that.
Catelyn: Okay, so Robb married Jeyne (I just recently found out that the character in the show is actually different; weird. I guess I just didn't catch her name for a while), and this has apparently pissed off the Freys. Meanwhile, Roose lost a ton of footmen sending them off to Duskendale (I don't really get this; my impression was that Bolton was supposed to be smart, if perhaps less trustworthy than he's letting on), and the Tyrells, Martells, and maybe even Arryns (if Littlefinger is successful) are joining the Lannisters. Things look bad for Robb. Meanwhile, Hoster Tully is dead, and Edmure doesn't seem like the most reliable guy. (Don't read the following unless you're done with this book:) So I've been spoiled to the main thing that's about to go down. None of the details, just the main plot point. I don't want to discuss it now, but if I am less surprised than you might expect come the next Catelyn chapter, that is why. In that light, Edmure marrying a Frey seems especially ill advised.
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Davos: Leeches, huh? I guess the magic's supposed to kill the three remaining kings? We'll see how that works out.
Jaime: Now this was an interesting chapter. Jaime tells a bit more of his time as a member of Aerys' Kingsguard; apparently he planned to burn the city to the ground rather than lose to Tywin. Guess that explains those wildfire stores Tyrion found! Then we have Roose Bolton, as cold and calculating as I expected. He plans to send Jaime back to Tywin to save himself, and to hand Brienne over to Hoat. Something tells me that Jaime will stop this despite how bad an idea it would be. Also, I noticed that Bolton's squire or whatever was apparently was betrothed to Arya. I didn't notice this in the last book, but I do remember her telling the kid that his princess could die for all she cared. Interesting detail there.
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Tyrion: Oberyn Martell, eh? He seems to have something up his sleeve, and apparently he won't be sated by The Mountain's blood alone. It also appears that Cersei's hated Tyrion since he was born.
Arya: Septon Utt's dead; the pedophile (or did he just kill little boys? Not clear on that) won't be missed. More interestingly. we learn that Thoros is behind Beric's multiple lives, and The Hound doesn't seem to be done with The Brotherhood yet. Seems to me that he's going to go on a quest of redemption, even if he doesn't know it yet himself.
Bran: Apparently Hodor is basically an animal and Bran can control him. Cool?
Jon: I am getting really tired of Ygritte. Every other sentence she says is "you know nothing, Jon Snow," which is just super lame. On the plus side, thanks to Summer Jon's finally free of these losers.
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The good thing about Storm is even if you think you've had a big spoiler, there are so many potential "huge spoilers" that you're still gonna have tons of stuff potentially blow your mind.
I'm generally really bad with wikis. I always fool myself into thinking I can read just check one thing to fill in a few details, and then inevitably I end up reading more than I meant to.
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Yeah. Don't read the wiki ever again until you're completely done with the book. And by that, I mean you don't even glance at it for a single second until you're past the last period of the last sentence of the last page of the book. If you have questions, we'll try to answer them in here if we can without spoiling too much.
ASOS best book in the series (and I approve of this topic, by the way).
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Dany: Dany wins another battle with her slave army, freeing Yunkai. How the hell is she feeding these people? Anyway, Daario Naharis joins her. I remember his name being on the casting list for season 3, so I guess he's important. She also gets really pissed off at Jorah.
Arya: Apparently Beric's squire is Edric Dayne, lord of Starfall. That's pretty cool. Supposedly, Ned was involved with Ashara Dayne back in the day. Huh. The old dwarf lady says that Balon Greyjoy is dead, and flips the f*** out when she sees Arya, saying that she has the stench of death. I'm sure many of the Brotherhood have killed more people than Arya; maybe it's because of the coin? I remember that Dany mentioned the phrase "valar morghulis" was something related to death in Valyrian. Then Arya runs away and gets captured by The Hound.
Jaime: In which Jaime is haunted by the ghosts of the Kingsguard, and then goes back to rescue Brienne from a bear. F*** yeah Jaime Lannister!
Catelyn: Balon is confirmed dead, and Robb plans to make Jon Snow his heir. He's also sending Catelyn off to Seagard.
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Sam: Zombie Small Paul comes back to try and kill Sam; the dagger doesn't work for some reason, and he is saved by ravens and then some mysterious dude with a black hand. I'm not sure if they were implying he was an Other or what, though I don't think we've seen talking Others outside of the House of the Undying.
Arya: The Hound is returning Arya to the Twins to get her ransom. Interesting.
Jon: Jon makes it back to the wall, and learns what has befallen the Watch and Winterfell. He doesn't seem too happy about it.
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Sam: Zombie Small Paul comes back to try and kill Sam; the dagger doesn't work for some reason,
Small Paul was a wight (dead human turned into a zombie), not an Other (deadly ice monster that is not simply a zombie human). The dragonglass dagger killed an Other but as you just saw the same magic does not seem to apply to wights. That or maybe it has to touch the skin and Sam only hit armor.
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Yeah, that's a crucial distinction a lot of people who read the book didn't pick up on it seems.
If you get "touched" by the White Walkers (tall things from Game of Thrones prologue, seemed to be armored in ice, etc) you come back as a dead guy (wight, like small paul and the two zombies that were brought back through the wall in Jon's chapters in Game of Thrones).
Arya is so great, and her interactions with the Hound are some of my favorite things in the universe. Putting them together was a great move, since she hates him but they actually make kind of a good team, and in some ways she's similar to him.
Jon: I am getting really tired of Ygritte. Every other sentence she says is "you know nothing, Jon Snow," which is just super lame. On the plus side, thanks to Summer Jon's finally free of these losers.
Sorry, you lost me here. "You know nothing, Jon Snow" is the best non-Arya line in the series.
Arya: Apparently Beric's squire is Edric Dayne, lord of Starfall. That's pretty cool. Supposedly, Ned was involved with Ashara Dayne back in the day. Huh.
Back in book 1, one of Catelyn's chapters I think, it mentions how Ashara Dayne was rumored to be Jon Snow's mother, and Ned banished the person telling the rumor when he heard about it. I believe she also was mentioned in the Harrenhall story you referred to earlier.
Have you thought about / read about the Jon's mother speculation?
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Yeah I've heard about that stuff (well someone suggested in the general topic that Ned might not be Jon's father, and I could guess the parents from there). Then later it was confirmed to me that my guess was the consensus guess. It makes a lot of sense with what I've read so far.
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From: LordoftheMorons | #022 Then later it was confirmed to me that my guess was the consensus guess. It makes a lot of sense with what I've read so far. Yep, there's quite a bit of circumstantial supporting evidence. I think it makes the story better too.
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Robb's dead, Catelyn's dead (I actually was surprised, I only knew that Robb was going to die here). F***ing Walder Frey, dressing crossbowmen as s***ty musicians, and playing Tywin's song, The Rains of Castamere. He apparently also got rid of (killed, probably) all the Freys that might have some reason to warn Robb of his impending doom. Should have listened to Grey Wind! He clearly knew something was going on. I guess the Northmen that killed the Smalljon were Bolton's? Or maybe Karstarks? I'm sure that'll be cleared up eventually, though probably not soon without a PoV character to find out. Really the most chilling part of the whole incident, though, was how Catelyn killed Walder's mentally disabled son. That was pure revenge; nothing could be gained, and Jinglebell was (as far as I can tell) completely innocent, besides having the misfortune to be born a Frey. That's basically like killing Hodor. We knew Walder was pure scum, but Catelyn? Damn.
Then there's Arya, and it looks like The Hound is going get here the hell out of there. Where to though?
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Tyrion: Joffrey is being a little s*** as usual. He also seems to have made the mistake of talking back to Tywin; I wonder if Stannis's third bloody leech will work its magic? Tywin was in on the massacre at the Twins, as expected, and Bolton was as well. And now Arya is supposed to marry Ramsay?? What?? Meanwhile, we find that it was Amory Lorch who killed Rhaegar's daughter, and all of the blame will be pinned on him rather than The Mountain. I wonder what the Red Viper will do once he's heard that?
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Minor spoilers (it clarifies something you were confused about that, if I remember correctly isn't spelled out beyond what you've already said - if you don't like that, don't read it):
It was Roose Bolton's northern men. Roose is the one who kills Robb himself - the last words Robb's killer say to him are "Jaime Lannister sends his regards", a reference to when Jaime had met with him earlier and told Roose "send my regards to Robb Stark". On top of that the physical descripion fits, as I recall.
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Brilliant, I just read from the Red Wedding through the end of the book in the past two days, so I am really enjoying the chance to look through it again through another set of eyes. Going to be moving on to A Feast for Crows afterwards?
Davos: looks like it's practically inevitable at this point that Stannis sacrifices Robert's bastard. Also apparently Davos's kid is another crazy Lord of Light follower.
Jon: the wildlings attack Castle Black and are burned to death, though it sounds like the Watch suffers some heavy casualties as well. Ygritte dies (I think? It said she was dying, anyway). I will not miss her.
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Bran: We hear some interesting legends about the Nightfort, and then Bran and co meet Sam and Gilly, who had apparently been sent to meet him by the elk rider. I'm guessing he's the three eyed crow? Good to have something finally happen in a Bran chapter. I like all the characters in them, but man can they be boring.
Dany: Apparently Arstan was Barristan Selmy! And Jorah had been reporting to Varys, but we already knew that from the first season of the show. There was also some less interesting stuff about Meereen, and the Titan's B****** tried to kill Dany.
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In Storm of Swords. He was with Brienne when he came to Harrenhal, but they left her there with Hoat at the same time he and Bolton leave. Then the next Jaime chapter he comes back to save Brienne.
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The little b****** king is dead! Finally! He also was apparently the one who tried to finish off Bran, as if we needed more evidence that he was the worst person ever. Payne no longer had Ice... I'm guessing it was melted down to make the two Valyrian steel swords Tywin had? I'm not exactly clear on who killed the king and how. From what I can tell, Dontos poisoned the pie with the amethyst on the orders of Littlefinger? Is that right? Or am I not supposed to know yet? Tyrion's also been arrested; wonder how he's going to get out of this one. I guess this also means Tommen is the King (in other words Tywin is the de facto king even more so than he was before).
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I'm not exactly clear on who killed the king and how. From what I can tell, Dontos poisoned the pie with the amethyst on the orders of Littlefinger? Is that right? Or am I not supposed to know yet?
Not yet, but soon IIRC
Also, Roose sent those men to Duskendale on purpose so that Robb's forces might be weakened. You know, since he's with the Freys and Lannisters.
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(spoilers just in case, though I'm pretty sure there is no additional evidence which emerges after where you are)
A lot of people believe the Queen of Thorns actually did the deed, as she adjusts Sansa's hairnet shortly before the poisoning. She was probably colluding with Littlefinger and Dontos in order to save her granddaughter from marrying a monster. Whether other Tyrells like Margaery were in on it is uncertain.
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(spoilers just in case, though I'm pretty sure there is no additional evidence which emerges after where you are)
A lot of people believe the Queen of Thorns actually did the deed, as she adjusts Sansa's hairnet shortly before the poisoning. She was probably colluding with Littlefinger and Dontos in order to save her granddaughter from marrying a monster. Whether other Tyrells like Margaery were in on it is uncertain.
Actually, this theory more or less flat out gets explained later in the books.
Actually, maybe not the motivation, but definitely the "who" is specified. The motivation is easy to work out from there, though.
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@LordoftheMorons: Don't read the above spoiler until you're done with the book. The content of the spoiler is actually laid out a bit later than where you are, and though it's nothing massive, it does take some of the enjoyment away.
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Jaime: Jaime stands up to his father and gets disinherited for it. He also doesn't seem to care very much that Joffrey's dead. Awesome!
Davos: Edric Storm is saved by Davos and his King's men, who then reads a mysterious letter to hopefully save his life.
Jon: there's an all out attack on the wall by Mance's entire force, and Jon commands the men at the top. They drive them back (I think?), but Donal Noye is killed by the king of the giants. Aemon tells Jon that he has to lead now.
Arya: The Vale is a no-go thanks to Tyrion's newly armed mountain tribes, and Nymeria drags Catelyn's corpse out of the river. Chekov's gun would imply that this will lead to something, though I can't imagine what.
Tyrion: Everyone thinks Tyrion killed Joffrey, and he can find no witnesses. Bronn won't fight for him, and is apparently marrying Lollys (I know she comes with lands and a castle and all if her older sister can be disposed of, but I can't imagine marrying a halfwit obese woman...). Kevan urges Tyrion to take the Black, and while that would certainly lead to more interesting chapters on the Wall, I don't think I'd like to see that happen. I probably won't have to, however, since Prince Oberyn Martell seems willing to cut down Gregor Clegane. He also mentions the possibility of Doran crowning Myrcella... interesting premise, though I kind of doubt it will happen.
Jaime: Jaime meets with his Kingsguard in the White Sword tower, and questions each of his knights. Boros is given taste-testing duties, Meryn is told not to blindly follow the orders of boy kings, and Balon Swann promises he will fight his brother if it comes to that. Loras is given leave to judge Brienne, but there's some doubt in him after talking to Jaime. We also find out that ghost Renly was Loras's brother Garlan. Another mystery solved!
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Jaime: Jaime meets with his Kingsguard in the White Sword tower, and questions each of his knights. Boros is given taste-testing duties, Meryn is told not to blindly follow the orders of boy kings, and Balon Swann promises he will fight his brother if it comes to that. Loras is given leave to judge Brienne, but there's some doubt in him after talking to Jaime. We also find out that ghost Renly was Loras's brother Garlan. Another mystery solved!
I love this chapter, because Jaime is so much better at being Lord Commander than I ever would have imagined, and yet I completely believe every bit of it.
I mean, it's not like Jaime's chapters aren't consistently awesome, but I wouldn't have expected this one to be this good.
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There will be some spoilers for the rest of the book in the blacked out text:
I think I was only a couple of chapters into the book when the topic was posted, but I picked up the pace so I could catch up and participate. I finished the book and now I have to say that Petyr Littlefinger Baelish is such a magnificent bastard. I just knew he had his (little) fingers in nearly every pie, but now we know that he was the driving force for just about everything happening that isn't White Walkers or Daenerys. And I would not be surprised if he starts manipulating things from that end as well.
Storm of Swords is easily my favorite of the series so far, but I move on with some trepidation due to many saying the the next two books take a hit in quality. It is sad because it seems nearly every plot point came together in Storm of Swords and the game was being played with some top tier players cashing in on their schemes and gambits. There were also a few hilarious subversions of normal fantasy fare. Tywin Lannister being shot in the gut while in the privy. Then he drops a load with his death rattle...all accompanied by Tyrion hilarious inner monologue one-liner. It was just too much, but I still enjoyed it. Even Dany's story got a bit better in this book with the addition of two awesome characters, one old and one FABULOUS.
Also, I'm really glad Jamie was a POV character this time. I loved his moments of insulting and "trolling" that we saw, but now I feel even more justified in liking him now that we've seen what makes him tick.
Books 4 & 5 aren't bad; in fact they're good. The hate for them is overblown by the long wait fans had to suffer to get them.
My personal series ranking is 3>2>4>1>5.
4+5 have some of my favorite moments in the series.
SPOILERS FOR STORM OF SWORDS Unfortunately, they come after Storm, a fantastic book that pays off almost every plotline from the first 3 books. Storm brought so many storylines to climax that there was no way 4+5 would be able to keep up the pace. They need to slow down a bit to get stuff ready for the last two books. There are climaxes, just not in every storyline. And there is a lot of "world building" fluff that has no suspense whatsoever.
Also, tbh, I think that part of the problem is that GRRM got too respected, so editors don't want to mess with his stuff when it needs to be trimmed. It is kinda like Lucas on the new trilogy (though nowhere near that bad) in that since he has a reputation, he has much more control, and he really needs some supervision.
DANCE WITH DRAGONS SPOILER Of course, on the other hand, the editors took out BOTH the battles of Meereen and Winterfell. What. The. Hell. Daenerys' story could easily be half as many chapters, same for Tyrion. Hell, even the completely unsatisfying Jaime ****tease.
From: LordoftheMorons | #035 Dany: Apparently Arstan was Barristan Selmy! And Jorah had been reporting to Varys, but we already knew that from the first season of the show. There was also some less interesting stuff about Meereen, and the Titan's B****** tried to kill Dany.
From: Menji76 | #037 Barristan's reveal was amazing.
Wait wasn't it completely obvious? I'm not the most observant reader but when "Arstan" showed up I was like oh that's what happened to Barristan Selmy.
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