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Touch
05/12/17 2:29:19 PM
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GODTIER
05/12/17 2:29:53 PM
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arabic
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weapon_d00d816
05/12/17 2:31:59 PM
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Russian and Arabic are supposedly hard.

I know Russian has like 13 cases.
okay 6, as I have recently been informed
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DarkChozoGhost
05/12/17 2:32:33 PM
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Depends on what your first language is. If your first language was Eastern, the other eastern languages will have a lower learning curve than western ones. If your first language was a latin based language, eastern languages will be much harder to learn.
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Hakuniwa
05/12/17 2:33:55 PM
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DarkChozoGhost posted...
Depends on what your first language is. If your first language was Eastern, the other eastern languages will have a lower learning curve than western ones. If your first language was a latin based language, eastern languages will be much harder to learn.
I was about to say the exact same thing, lol.
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Zikten
05/12/17 2:35:12 PM
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in Mandarin, different pronunciations and inflections completely change the words
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Touch
05/12/17 2:35:46 PM
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DarkChozoGhost posted...
Depends on what your first language is. If your first language was Eastern, the other eastern languages will have a lower learning curve than western ones. If your first language was a latin based language, eastern languages will be much harder to learn.

What if my first language was gangsta
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Vertania
05/12/17 2:35:55 PM
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Japanese was fucking ridiculous, in my experience. I did okay with Hiragana, struggled with Katakana, and just said "fuck it" when we got to Kanji.

I imagine Chinese is about as bad.
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ThyCorndog
05/12/17 2:37:17 PM
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weapon_d00d816 posted...
Russian and Arabic are supposedly hard.

I know Russian has like 13 cases.
okay 6, as I have recently been informed

Russian isn't that hard. As far as European languages go, for English speakers it's definitely the Finno-Ugric languages of Estonian, Finnish and Hungarian. After those it's probably Polish
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GunmaN1905
05/12/17 2:39:17 PM
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Slavic languages, especially Polish, Estonian and Basque from Europe.

Idk about others, never really went into Arabic or Asian languages so I can't compare.

Forgot Hungarian, as Corndog said. Finnish doesn't seem that hard.
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voldothegr8
05/12/17 2:46:47 PM
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Are we talking about just speaking or going full literate? I would imagine for full literate the Asian languages would be the hardest.
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Mystere
05/12/17 2:55:36 PM
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I know illnever bother with one where I have to learn a different alphabet.
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Megaman50100
05/12/17 3:01:18 PM
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Vertania posted...
Japanese was fucking ridiculous, in my experience. I did okay with Hiragana, struggled with Katakana, and just said "fuck it" when we got to Kanji.

I imagine Chinese is about as bad.


Chinese is 'kanji' only as far as writing goes. You are the first person I have ever seen say they had a problem with Katakana but were fine with Hiragana.
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Vertania
05/12/17 3:19:17 PM
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Megaman50100 posted...
You are the first person I have ever seen say they had a problem with Katakana but were fine with Hiragana.

It's because we spent almost a whole semester learning Hiragana first, then had to learn Katakana in a matter of weeks. I was still trying to keep track of which symbol matched which by the time we moved on to Kanji.

If I was just learning how to speak Japanese, I might be alright, but keeping track of three separate alphabets was too much.
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Doe
05/12/17 3:22:23 PM
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Megaman50100 posted...
had a problem with Katakana but were fine with Hiragana.

Hiragana is literally way easier than Katakana although the latter isn't superbly difficult, just takes more time

Kanji is pretty awful though, I know like 20
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DarkDragon400
05/12/17 3:22:27 PM
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Learning Japanese hasn't given me too much trouble. I attempted a while back to try learning Arabic and I could not make any progress with it.
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Doe
05/12/17 3:23:02 PM
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Vertania posted...
It's because we spent almost a whole semester learning Hiragana first,

Wait what

I learned Hiragana over a couple days by self study
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Vertania
05/12/17 3:33:51 PM
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Doe posted...
Wait what

I learned Hiragana over a couple days by self study

That's self study though. You probably weren't balancing homework loads from other classes and having to do language exercises in class.

I suppose getting drunk all the time might not have helped either.
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SBAllen
05/12/17 3:37:31 PM
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Touch posted...
Which language has the steepest learning curb?

English, apparently.
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averagejoel
05/12/17 3:38:01 PM
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SBAllen posted...
Touch posted...
Which language has the steepest learning curb?

English, apparently.

damn
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averagejoel
05/12/17 3:38:36 PM
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lol tc got owned by SBAllen
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_KGC_
05/12/17 3:40:19 PM
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Lol
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sktgamer_13dude
05/12/17 3:43:10 PM
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SBAllen posted...
Touch posted...
Which language has the steepest learning curb?

English, apparently.

*mic drop*
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BLAKUboy
05/12/17 3:44:26 PM
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And now the topic gets derailed because Allen posted.
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ASithLord7
05/12/17 3:46:21 PM
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Allen making a post that isnt salty and crying about someone? Amazing
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Hakuniwa
05/12/17 3:50:41 PM
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Megaman50100 posted...
Vertania posted...
Japanese was fucking ridiculous, in my experience. I did okay with Hiragana, struggled with Katakana, and just said "fuck it" when we got to Kanji.

I imagine Chinese is about as bad.


Chinese is 'kanji' only as far as writing goes. You are the first person I have ever seen say they had a problem with Katakana but were fine with Hiragana.
Both languages kinda balance each other out I think, Mandarin has the tones and it uses more hanzi than Japanese, but Japanese has more readings (and meanings) per kanji.
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Touch
05/12/17 3:55:45 PM
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;)

Also wtf. I can get the admin to post in my topic but I cant even get a topic to hit 100+ posts lol
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Megaman50100
05/12/17 4:02:32 PM
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Doe posted...
Hiragana is literally way easier than Katakana although the latter isn't superbly difficult, just takes more time

Kanji is pretty awful though, I know like 20

Whats the logic behind Hiragana being easier than Katakana? Both were the same for me, same number of characters in each syllabary, right?

I've been lightly studying kanji connotations/meaning for a couple years now. Once I hit around 500 I've begun forgetting old ones while learning new ones which is the biggest pain.
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ThyCorndog
05/12/17 4:03:25 PM
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Touch posted...
;)

Also wtf. I can get the admin to post in my topic but I cant even get a topic to hit 100+ posts lol

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NathanX95
05/12/17 4:06:58 PM
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Posting in here cause of that Allen roast.
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Canuklehead
05/12/17 4:30:46 PM
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SBAllen posted...
Touch posted...
Which language has the steepest learning curb?

English, apparently.


Shit, I came in to post this. Surprised it even took 19 posts.
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Touch
05/12/17 4:31:10 PM
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Canuklehead posted...
SBAllen posted...
Touch posted...
Which language has the steepest learning curb?

English, apparently.


Shit, I came in to post this. Surprised it even took 19 posts.

This tbh
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COVxy
05/12/17 4:32:41 PM
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Canuklehead posted...
SBAllen posted...
Touch posted...
Which language has the steepest learning curb?

English, apparently.


Shit, I came in to post this. Surprised it even took 19 posts.


Indeed.
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Key
05/12/17 4:40:44 PM
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SBAllen posted...
Touch posted...
Which language has the steepest learning curb?

English, apparently.

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sktgamer_13dude
05/12/17 7:08:29 PM
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ASithLord7 posted...
Allen making a post that isnt salty and crying about someone? Amazing

So most of his posts?
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Touch
05/12/17 7:52:52 PM
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I wonder if Allen clicked on my topic, scrolled through to see if anyone roasted me yet then got giddy as he took that honor

Mmmm
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kirbymuncher
05/12/17 7:57:52 PM
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Megaman50100 posted...
Whats the logic behind Hiragana being easier than Katakana? Both were the same for me, same number of characters in each syllabary, right?

hiragana look more distinct imo, there's a bunch of katakana that look very similar to each other

also hiragana get used a lot more so you'll see them a lot more so you'll get a lot more practice and they'll just naturally feel easier
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ZombiePelican
05/12/17 8:01:15 PM
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SBAllen posted...
Touch posted...
Which language has the steepest learning curb?

English, apparently.

TC right now: swZOr05
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SoundNetwork
05/12/17 8:03:00 PM
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why is the ADMIN being so mean
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faizan_faizan
05/12/17 8:07:08 PM
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Depends on the individual like stated above

I can read Arabic so it wouldn't take long for me to learn it, I'd have a lot of problem learning something like Chinese or Japanese where I don't even know the words

Speaking of, I've been trying to learn German since 6th grade, hopefully I'll be much better at it after this summer
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Turbam
05/12/17 8:07:54 PM
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Probably the clicking language.
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YookaLaylee
05/12/17 8:07:58 PM
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Zikten posted...
in Mandarin, different pronunciations and inflections completely change the words

Yeah, tonal languages are ridiculous
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ThyCorndog
05/12/17 8:10:32 PM
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Turbam posted...
Probably the clicking language.

khoisan, I think
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SGT_Conti
05/12/17 8:11:32 PM
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If you count Chinese as a whole, the spoken language is hell to learn. I'm told Cantonese is harder than Mandarin because it has more tones, but I only really have experience with the former and never really bothered much with the latter because I'm shit with languages.

The written Chinese is just... a total nightmare to learn. Other than some words, it's mostly just memorization.
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voldothegr8
05/12/17 8:14:12 PM
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SBAllen posted...
Touch posted...
Which language has the steepest learning curb?

English, apparently.

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Hakuniwa
05/12/17 8:30:04 PM
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kirbymuncher posted...
Megaman50100 posted...
Whats the logic behind Hiragana being easier than Katakana? Both were the same for me, same number of characters in each syllabary, right?

hiragana look more distinct imo, there's a bunch of katakana that look very similar to each other

also hiragana get used a lot more so you'll see them a lot more so you'll get a lot more practice and they'll just naturally feel easier
I've also heard of people having more trouble with katakana and I agree that they seem more alien than hiragana. Although I never had a problem with either of them, aside from the usual look-alikes in the beginning (nu - me / re - ne - wa in hiragana) (chi - tsu / so - n in katakana).
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Mr Sandbag
05/12/17 8:34:59 PM
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SBAllen posted...
Touch posted...
Which language has the steepest learning curb?

English, apparently.


Really? This is the shitppsting you do? Sad!
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Mr Sandbag
05/12/17 8:37:53 PM
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kirbymuncher posted...
Megaman50100 posted...
Whats the logic behind Hiragana being easier than Katakana? Both were the same for me, same number of characters in each syllabary, right?

hiragana look more distinct imo, there's a bunch of katakana that look very similar to each other

also hiragana get used a lot more so you'll see them a lot more so you'll get a lot more practice and they'll just naturally feel easier


This. I always thought katakana was harder. I even had an easier time with Kanji because I am very visual and can remember complicated details. But throw two simple things with a slight variegation and I'll mix them up all the time.

And I say speaking Japanese in a formal way is very difficult.
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