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NeonOctopus 05/17/17 8:36:50 AM #1: |
wtf is this
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Solar_Crimson 05/17/17 8:37:42 AM #2: |
I think that's how it was in the original game(s).
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DevsBro 05/17/17 8:38:59 AM #3: |
You mean with a nirmal bow? They always could with a longbow.
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Rika_Furude 05/17/17 8:40:04 AM #4: |
that ability is so OP they literally only gave it to takumi when he was your enemy in the latest games
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NeonOctopus 05/17/17 8:40:50 AM #5: |
DevsBro posted...
You mean with a nirmal bow? They always could with a longbow. Yeah, a normal ass bow. I was watching a playthrough and the archer in the first level has attack range of 1-3 and even the tutoral commander says archers can counterattack at close range --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Esrac 05/17/17 8:41:09 AM #6: |
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NeonOctopus 05/17/17 11:28:06 AM #7: |
bump
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LightHawKnight 05/17/17 11:31:49 AM #8: |
Isn't this old news?
https://serenesforest.net/fire-emblem-echoes-shadows-valentia/weapons/bows/ --- The Official Odin of the Shin Megami Tensei IV board. "You know how confusing the whole good-evil concept is for me." ... Copied to Clipboard!
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NeonOctopus 05/17/17 11:34:45 AM #9: |
Nerrrrrrrd
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Distant_Rainbow 05/17/17 11:34:49 AM #10: |
Oh boy. Is this real? Seriously?
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NeonOctopus 05/17/17 11:35:29 AM #11: |
Distant_Rainbow posted...
Oh boy. Is this real? Seriously? Yeah, it sounds pretty broken but I guess I'll find out when the game comes out this friday --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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philsov 05/17/17 11:36:47 AM #12: |
NeonOctopus posted...
archers can counterattack at close range This is huge. That's my chief complaint with archers. They just eat melee hits because of no countering, which is specifically why I almost never use them in any game and opt for mages and/or javelin/hand axe instead. But this AND 1-3 feels like a bit much. We'll see how it plays out. --- Remember that I won't rest, 'til we share the same tense Just know, to me, you're better late than never again. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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LightHawKnight 05/17/17 11:39:41 AM #13: |
Distant_Rainbow posted...
Oh boy. Is this real? Seriously? They also have accuracy issues now. Which balances them out. Mages use HP to cast their spells, but ignore terrain advantages, which is major in this game. --- The Official Odin of the Shin Megami Tensei IV board. "You know how confusing the whole good-evil concept is for me." ... Copied to Clipboard!
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snesmaster40 05/17/17 11:40:54 AM #14: |
It was like that with the original NES version. They changed it back after that game though >_>
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Mormaurd 05/17/17 11:41:25 AM #15: |
philsov posted...
NeonOctopus posted...archers can counterattack at close range Clerics could do that in Radiant Dawn too. --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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NeonOctopus 05/17/17 11:41:28 AM #16: |
LightHawKnight posted...
Distant_Rainbow posted...Oh boy. Is this real? Seriously? They use HP to attack? wtf This is a weird game >_> --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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LightHawKnight 05/17/17 11:43:04 AM #17: |
NeonOctopus posted...
LightHawKnight posted...Distant_Rainbow posted...Oh boy. Is this real? Seriously? https://serenesforest.net/fire-emblem-echoes-shadows-valentia/weapons/black-magic/ https://serenesforest.net/fire-emblem-echoes-shadows-valentia/weapons/white-magic/ Also no axe users in this game, well none that you can have, so no weapon triangle. Also look at these ridiculous terrain advantages. https://serenesforest.net/fire-emblem-echoes-shadows-valentia/classes/terrain-data/ --- The Official Odin of the Shin Megami Tensei IV board. "You know how confusing the whole good-evil concept is for me." ... Copied to Clipboard!
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BLAKUboy 05/17/17 11:47:10 AM #18: |
snesmaster40 posted...
It was like that with the original NES version. They changed it back after that game though >_> So basically they learned nothing from SD. --- Aeris dies if she takes more damage than her current HP - Panthera http://signavatar.com/26999_s.png ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Unquestionable 05/17/17 11:50:17 AM #19: |
From what I hear they really changed up the game compared to the newer titles. Personally I'm excited as I love FE but mixing things up once in awhile can be nice, makes the games stand out from each other a bit better. And I loved the game play of Fates but thought the story was easily the worst in the series, as long as Echoes outdoes that I'm happy.
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TheMarthKoopa 05/17/17 11:53:55 AM #20: |
Looks like it's actually nerfed from the original, which was 1-5 with an equipped bow
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LightHawKnight 05/17/17 11:54:51 AM #21: |
TheMarthKoopa posted...
Looks like it's actually nerfed from the original, which was 1-5 with an equipped bow They also nerfed the rings and warping. --- The Official Odin of the Shin Megami Tensei IV board. "You know how confusing the whole good-evil concept is for me." ... Copied to Clipboard!
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ChromaticAngel 05/17/17 12:07:02 PM #22: |
BLAKUboy posted...
snesmaster40 posted...It was like that with the original NES version. They changed it back after that game though >_> Shadow Dragon had some odd design choices but I'd rather play it that way than some neutered version. --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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GiftedACIII 05/17/17 11:06:15 PM #23: |
BLAKUboy posted...
snesmaster40 posted...It was like that with the original NES version. They changed it back after that game though >_> Mystery of the Emblem was beast though. SD's main problem wasn't just not fixing the bad stuff but actively having worse game mechanics --- </topic> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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averagejoel 05/17/17 11:19:02 PM #24: |
LightHawKnight posted...
Also look at these ridiculous terrain advantages. aside from Graves, that all seems fairly ordinary there was terrain in Genealogy that gave 40 avoid --- peanut butter and dick ... Copied to Clipboard!
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