Current Events > So who's the real villain? Evil game publishers or filthy gamer enablers

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voldothegr8 11/13/17 3:45:12 PM #1:	Which way should we direct the pitchforks CE? Evil game publishers Filthy gamer enablers View Results I've always blamed folks who buy up DLC like hotcakes, and not just the whales. All those damn people buying up $15 map packs, that's where the problem really began imo. --- Oda break tracker 2017- 9 (3) \| THE Ohio State: 8-2 \| Oakland Raiders: 4-5 Super Mario Maker Profile: 1237-0000-0073-02FE <cite>voldothegr8 posted [p:890318607] in So who's t... [t:75987309]...</cite> <quote> Which way should we direct the pitchforks CE? Evil game publishers Filthy gamer enablers View Results I've always blamed folks who buy up DLC like hotcakes, and not just the whales. All those damn people buying up $15 map packs, that's where the problem really began imo.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
eston 11/13/17 3:46:31 PM #2:	Neither --- http://i73.photobucket.com/albums/i215/estonc/grizzly_bear_chairs_2.jpg http://i.imgur.com/8kjZU.jpg <cite>eston posted [p:890318689] in So who's t... [t:75987309]...</cite> <quote>Neither</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Dustin1280 11/13/17 3:46:39 PM #3:	I blame EA because they are taking advantage of people that are unable to make good decisions with their money and because of it, normal players suffer. --- RIP: Canuklehead, Karma: 1369 // RIP: Gen_Lee_Enfield, Karma: 1731 // RIP: Orlando of the Axe, Karma: 1642 --They delivered! <cite>Dustin1280 posted [p:890318702] in So who's t... [t:75987309]...</cite> <quote>I blame EA because they are taking advantage of people that are unable to make good decisions with their money and because of it, normal players suffer.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Sada_Pop 11/13/17 3:48:38 PM #5:	Dustin1280 posted... I blame EA because they are taking advantage of people that are unable to make good decisions with their money and because of it, normal players suffer. They're in the business of making money. Not really hurting anyone if people are willing to pay for it. Nobody is getting hurt. --- People would have you believe that the accusation of racism is more offensive than ACTUAL racism. <cite>Sada_Pop posted [p:890318839] in So who's t... [t:75987309]...</cite> <quote><cite>Dustin1280 posted...</cite> <quote>I blame EA because they are taking advantage of people that are unable to make good decisions with their money and because of it, normal players suffer.</quote> They're in the business of making money. Not really hurting anyone if people are willing to pay for it. Nobody is getting hurt.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DevsBro 11/13/17 3:49:42 PM #6:	Neither. Only pirates. --- http://backloggery.com/devsbro/sig.gif http://i.imgur.com/kU5vu5N.png Never pepper popcorn <cite>DevsBro posted [p:890318903] in So who's t... [t:75987309]...</cite> <quote>Neither. Only pirates.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Dustin1280 11/13/17 3:50:20 PM #7:	Sada_Pop posted... Dustin1280 posted... I blame EA because they are taking advantage of people that are unable to make good decisions with their money and because of it, normal players suffer. They're in the business of making money. Not really hurting anyone if people are willing to pay for it. Nobody is getting hurt. Except people that don't want to P2W a AAA retail game. DevsBro posted... Neither. Only pirates. Pirates hardly impact the bottom line of video game income ANYWAY https://www.engadget.com/2017/09/22/eu-suppressed-study-piracy-no-sales-impact/ --- RIP: Canuklehead, Karma: 1369 // RIP: Gen_Lee_Enfield, Karma: 1731 // RIP: Orlando of the Axe, Karma: 1642 --They delivered! <cite>Dustin1280 posted [p:890318959] in So who's t... [t:75987309]...</cite> <quote><cite>Sada_Pop posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Dustin1280 posted...</cite> <quote>I blame EA because they are taking advantage of people that are unable to make good decisions with their money and because of it, normal players suffer.</quote> They're in the business of making money. Not really hurting anyone if people are willing to pay for it. Nobody is getting hurt.</quote> Except people that don't want to P2W a AAA retail game. <cite>DevsBro posted...</cite> <quote>Neither. Only pirates.</quote> Pirates hardly impact the bottom line of video game income ANYWAY https://www.engadget.com/2017/09/22/eu-suppressed-study-piracy-no-sales-impact/</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Anarchy_Juiblex 11/13/17 3:50:41 PM #8:	Consumers. They're enabling it. Plus they ruin games in every other way with their whining. --- "Tolerance of intolerance is cowardice." ~ Ayaan Hirsi Ali <cite>Anarchy_Juiblex posted [p:890318986] in So who's t... [t:75987309]...</cite> <quote>Consumers. They're enabling it. Plus they ruin games in every other way with their whining.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
eston 11/13/17 3:51:50 PM #9:	Dustin1280 posted... Sada_Pop posted... Dustin1280 posted... I blame EA because they are taking advantage of people that are unable to make good decisions with their money and because of it, normal players suffer. They're in the business of making money. Not really hurting anyone if people are willing to pay for it. Nobody is getting hurt. Except people that don't want to P2W a AAA retail game. They don't have to buy it. A game coming out that you don't like does not hurt you lol --- http://i73.photobucket.com/albums/i215/estonc/grizzly_bear_chairs_2.jpg http://i.imgur.com/8kjZU.jpg <cite>eston posted [p:890319053] in So who's t... [t:75987309]...</cite> <quote><cite>Dustin1280 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Sada_Pop posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Dustin1280 posted...</cite> <quote>I blame EA because they are taking advantage of people that are unable to make good decisions with their money and because of it, normal players suffer.</quote> They're in the business of making money. Not really hurting anyone if people are willing to pay for it. Nobody is getting hurt.</quote> Except people that don't want to P2W a AAA retail game.</quote> They don't have to buy it. A game coming out that you don't like does not hurt you lol</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Muffinz0rz 11/13/17 3:52:13 PM #10:	Both are awful but the practice wouldn't exist without the consumer, so I think the fault lies with the consumer. --- Not removing this until Pat Benatar is in Super Smash Bros. (Started 8/31/2010) FantaCE Football Squad (6-3): https://i.imgur.com/kR3ptyv.png (Updated Weekly) <cite>Muffinz0rz posted [p:890319080] in So who's t... [t:75987309]...</cite> <quote>Both are awful but the practice wouldn't exist without the consumer, so I think the fault lies with the consumer.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Dustin1280 11/13/17 3:52:29 PM #11:	Muffinz0rz posted... Both are awful but the practice wouldn't exist without the consumer, so I think the fault lies with the consumer. I just don't like admitting this... xD --- RIP: Canuklehead, Karma: 1369 // RIP: Gen_Lee_Enfield, Karma: 1731 // RIP: Orlando of the Axe, Karma: 1642 --They delivered! <cite>Dustin1280 posted [p:890319101] in So who's t... [t:75987309]...</cite> <quote><cite>Muffinz0rz posted...</cite> <quote>Both are awful but the practice wouldn't exist without the consumer, so I think the fault lies with the consumer.</quote> I just don't like admitting this... xD</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ThePrinceFish 11/13/17 3:52:34 PM #12:	There is enough blame to go to both. --- Dielman on Rivers: "I've tried to get him to say s--- or f--- and all he'll ever do is say, 'Golly gee, I can't do that." <cite>ThePrinceFish posted [p:890319106] in So who's t... [t:75987309]...</cite> <quote>There is enough blame to go to both.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
D-Lo_BrownTown 11/13/17 3:53:10 PM #13:	Both? There's a fair compromise to be had, I'm sure. But game companies get greedy, and then gamers eat that shit up which causes them to get more greedy. --- https://i.imgtc.com/lYWecjF.jpg <cite>D-Lo_BrownTown posted [p:890319144] in So who's t... [t:75987309]...</cite> <quote>Both? There's a fair compromise to be had, I'm sure. But game companies get greedy, and then gamers eat that shit up which causes them to get more greedy.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Dustin1280 11/13/17 4:14:12 PM #15:	fenderbender321 posted... Dustin1280 posted... I blame EA because they are taking advantage of people that are unable to make good decisions with their money and because of it, normal players suffer. If you give consumers a pass for poor decision making, you have to give the people at EA a pass as well...because maybe they can't help themselves either. You are correct: Dustin1280 posted... Muffinz0rz posted... Both are awful but the practice wouldn't exist without the consumer, so I think the fault lies with the consumer. I just don't like admitting this... xD --- RIP: Canuklehead, Karma: 1369 // RIP: Gen_Lee_Enfield, Karma: 1731 // RIP: Orlando of the Axe, Karma: 1642 --They delivered! <cite>Dustin1280 posted [p:890320467] in So who's t... [t:75987309]...</cite> <quote><cite>fenderbender321 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Dustin1280 posted...</cite> <quote>I blame EA because they are taking advantage of people that are unable to make good decisions with their money and because of it, normal players suffer.</quote> If you give consumers a pass for poor decision making, you have to give the people at EA a pass as well...because maybe they can't help themselves either.</quote> You are correct: <cite>Dustin1280 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Muffinz0rz posted...</cite> <quote>Both are awful but the practice wouldn't exist without the consumer, so I think the fault lies with the consumer.</quote> I just don't like admitting this... xD</quote></quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
voldothegr8 11/13/17 5:35:45 PM #16:	eston posted... Neither Then who or what? --- Oda break tracker 2017- 9 (3) \| THE Ohio State: 8-2 \| Oakland Raiders: 4-5 Super Mario Maker Profile: 1237-0000-0073-02FE <cite>voldothegr8 posted [p:890325840] in So who's t... [t:75987309]...</cite> <quote><cite>eston posted...</cite> <quote>Neither</quote> Then who or what?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
PiOverlord 11/13/17 5:37:56 PM #17:	Consumers. Just like when we don't shame consumers who find ways to exploit producers, we shouldn't shame for the opposite. --- Number of legendary 500 post topics: 26, 500th posts: 17; PiO ATTN: 2 RotM wins 1, Caring is sharing: https://imgur.com/a/W3bEo <cite>PiOverlord posted [p:890325967] in So who's t... [t:75987309]...</cite> <quote>Consumers. Just like when we don't shame consumers who find ways to exploit producers, we shouldn't shame for the opposite.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
HypnoCoosh 11/13/17 5:39:52 PM #18:	Companies make business models to make money. The market dictates all. --- We make men without chests and expect from them virtue and enterprise. We laugh at honor and are shocked to find traitors in our midst. - C.S. Lewis <cite>HypnoCoosh posted [p:890326078] in So who's t... [t:75987309]...</cite> <quote>Companies make business models to make money. The market dictates all.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Funkydog 11/13/17 5:39:54 PM #19:	The publisher. They are using gambling addiction more often than not to fund themselves, without being treated like gambling. --- http://i.imgur.com/BGbZK.gif <cite>Funkydog posted [p:890326079] in So who's t... [t:75987309]...</cite> <quote>The publisher. They are using gambling addiction more often than not to fund themselves, without being treated like gambling.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Darmik 11/13/17 5:39:59 PM #20:	Gamers are the ones that stopped buying and playing multiplayer games with unlocks after COD4. Gamers are the ones who stopped buying single player games that weren't open world or a huge IP. Gamers are the ones who will complain about money hungry publishers while still buying the game and playing it for a several hours anyway. --- Kind Regards, Darmik <cite>Darmik posted [p:890326085] in So who's t... [t:75987309]...</cite> <quote>Gamers are the ones that stopped buying and playing multiplayer games with unlocks after COD4. Gamers are the ones who stopped buying single player games that weren't open world or a huge IP. Gamers are the ones who will complain about money hungry publishers while still buying the game and playing it for a several hours anyway.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Muffinz0rz 11/14/17 10:35:30 AM #21:	voldothegr8 posted... eston posted... Neither Then who or what? "Neither" is wrong. The answer is "both." --- Not removing this until Pat Benatar is in Super Smash Bros. (Started 8/31/2010) FantaCE Football Squad (6-3): https://i.imgur.com/kR3ptyv.png (Updated Weekly) <cite>Muffinz0rz posted [p:890367264] in So who's t... [t:75987309]...</cite> <quote><cite>voldothegr8 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>eston posted...</cite> <quote>Neither</quote> Then who or what?</quote> "Neither" is wrong. The answer is "both."</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DevsBro 11/14/17 2:12:21 PM #22:	Pirates hardly impact the bottom line of video game income ANYWAY And? --- http://backloggery.com/devsbro/sig.gif http://i.imgur.com/kU5vu5N.png Never pepper popcorn <cite>DevsBro posted [p:890379657] in So who's t... [t:75987309]...</cite> <quote><quote>Pirates hardly impact the bottom line of video game income ANYWAY</quote> And?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Current Events > So who's the real villain? Evil game publishers or filthy gamer enablers