Current Events > Jordan Peterson was right

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HW5rdoqtTiQ
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Jordan Peterson is always right bucko, it's no joke!
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Joelypoely posted...

Jordan Peterson is always right bucko, it's no joke!

And that's that!
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Joelypoely posted...

Jordan Peterson is always right bucko, it's no joke!

Jordan Peterson is also a con man that says what his audience wants to hear because they pay him over 50k a month via patreon.
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NINExATExSEVEN posted...

Jordan Peterson is also a con man that says what his audience wants to hear because they pay him over 50k a month via patreon.

you do realize everybody is a conman these days?
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NINExATExSEVEN posted...

Jordan Peterson is also a con man that says what his audience wants to hear because they pay him over 50k a month via patreon.

Like what? What does he say that he doesn't believe?
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None of this should be surprising. Groups that have a vested interest in creating echo chambers within their communities are eventually going to look for ways to extend their boundaries even further. This is not really the problem. The problem is when these groups start demanding that the government (i.e. persons with badges and guns) force other groups to adopt the speech and behavior of these echo chambers.
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Lorenzo_2003 posted...

None of this should be surprising. Groups that have a vested interest in creating echo chambers within their communities are eventually going to look for ways to extend their boundaries even further. This is not really the problem. The problem is when these groups start demanding that the government (i.e. persons with badges and guns) force other groups to adopt the speech and behavior of these echo chambers.

Not sure what you're responding to. The government is involved.
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The ideology was later destroyed.
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I've never seen him do anything except belittle transgender people, make hollow complaints about "PC Culture", and spout false information about communism.

how many of those things does that video contain?
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averagejoel posted...

how many of those things does that video contain?

It's a sargon of akkad video so I assume its just 40 minutes of crying about marxism and nonsense.

averagejoel posted...

I've never seen him do anything except belittle transgender people, make hollow complaints about "PC Culture", and spout false information about communism.

how many of those things does that video contain?

Watch the video and tell me if it contains hollow complaints about pc culture.
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On_The_Edge posted...

averagejoel posted...

I've never seen him do anything except belittle transgender people, make hollow complaints about "PC Culture", and spout false information about communism.

how many of those things does that video contain?

Watch the video and tell me if it contains hollow complaints about pc culture.

it's sargon of akkad and it's 40 minutes long

I don't need to watch it to be able to tell you, with 100% confidence, that it does
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Peterson is probably one of the more vile, harmful ideology-spouting hacks out there today and it is a shame that he is so popular.

AliceofInsanity posted...

Peterson is probably one of the more vile, harmful ideology-spouting hacks out there today and it is a shame that he is so popular.

In what way?

Honest question. Not facetious.
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Esrac posted...

AliceofInsanity posted...

Peterson is probably one of the more vile, harmful ideology-spouting hacks out there today and it is a shame that he is so popular.

In what way?

Honest question. Not facetious.

He's very intelligent, and I feel insightful. That said, his current crusade against SJW is clearly pandering to a conservative crowd and it really pays his bills. I find it ironic because he'll definitely trash things that are conservative beliefs but he'll be much more nuanced/subtle about it (and I feel that it goes over half of his audiences' head). He also will overuse intellectual jargon to make points sound much more profound than they actually might be.

I still like him and think his popularity is well deserved. Its just a shame that his mental horsepower is being wasted on picking on SJWs (though I generally agree with his stance) when he should be using his platform to also help his largely conservative following become less dogmatic and more open to progressive ideas (to what modern conservative views should be).
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Peterson is a great man. Super intelligent, and extremely articulate. Really hits the nail on the head with whats wrong in today's society.

Seeing average joel spout his usual garbage here is no surprise lol.

NINExATExSEVEN posted...

Jordan Peterson is also a con man that says what his audience wants to hear because they pay him over 50k a month via patreon.

Oh goddamnit, he's on it too?

I googled his page,

https://www.patreon.com/jordanbpeterson

And he has 6434 patrons. If they each contributed the bare minimum, $5 a month, he'd rake in ~$32K a month! $20, that's over a 120K, sheesh.
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Jordan Peterson is a beast who scares communist clowns like averagejoel into assassinating his character rather than ever engaging him in a real debate.
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On_The_Edge posted...

Not sure what you're responding to. The government is involved.

Yes, I know. That's the point. I watched the vid, and government involvement seemed to be the primary concern of Peterson.
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Lorenzo_2003 posted...

On_The_Edge posted...

Not sure what you're responding to. The government is involved.

Yes, I know. That's the point. I watched the vid, and government involvement seemed to be the primary concern of Peterson.

Oh, ok.
AliceofInsanity posted...

Peterson is probably one of the more vile, harmful ideology-spouting hacks out there today and it is a shame that he is so popular.

Sometimes I feel like I live in a separate world than some people...
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On_The_Edge posted...

Sometimes I feel like I live in a separate world than some people...

i mean Aliceofinsanity is a shitposter so idk
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Reminder that he believes threats of violence is important in any argument.
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SGT_Conti posted...

Reminder that he believes threats of violence is important in any argument.

wym
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Joseph Rogan
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On_The_Edge posted...

SGT_Conti posted...

Reminder that he believes threats of violence is important in any argument.

wym

If you're asking what I mean, he lamented that it was socially unacceptable to hit women, and that made it more difficult to argue with them. That they could say things without a fear of being punched for it.
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SGT_Conti posted...

On_The_Edge posted...

SGT_Conti posted...

Reminder that he believes threats of violence is important in any argument.

wym

If you're asking what I mean, he lamented that it was socially unacceptable to hit women, and that made it more difficult to argue with them. That they could say things without a fear of being punched for it.

I know what you're referring to. He did not lament that it was socially unacceptable to hit women. He was making the argument that it's different for a man to argue with a woman than with another man because the threat of physical violence is always the "last resort" in a dispute between two men.
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The idea that physical violence is even an option is ridiculous. Guys a fucking hack and among the reasons I've decided to leave the Republican Party until it gets its shit back in order.

ShinyMuffin posted...

The idea that physical violence is even an option is ridiculous. Guys a fucking hack and among the reasons I've decided to leave the Republican Party until it gets its shit back in order.

Some of you guys need to stop freaking out if you don't understand someone's argument. He never said it was a live option. In fact, JBP argues against violence. His argument is that possibility of physical violence is always PRESENT between two men in a dispute due to evolutionary mechanisms that predate history.

Also, lmao at relating him to the republicans. He's not even a conservative let alone a republican.
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"Last resort" means that it's an option always on the table and there's always a threat of physical violence in an argument. Aside from how absurd that is coming from a supposed advocate of free speech, it's really odd to hear that from a rallying symbol of the alt-right, which is a group of people who believe that Neo-Nazis should not be assaulted for their beliefs under any circumstances.

On_The_Edge posted...

Some of you guys need to stop freaking out if you don't understand someone's argument. He never said it was a live option. In fact, JBP argues against violence. His argument is that possibility of physical violence is always PRESENT between two men in a dispute due to evolutionary mechanisms that predate history.

He absolutely believes that violence is a necessary component of civil discourse. You cannot say that and at the same time be arguing against violence. If he was making a point about how things are, then he might have a point. But he's injecting his own opinions into it, that is, he is "defenseless against that kind of female insanity", which certainly sounds like he's lamenting violence isn't an option against women.

"When men are talking to each other in any serious manner, that underlying threat of physicality is always there, especially if it's a real conversation and it keeps things civilized to some degree."
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On_The_Edge posted...

ShinyMuffin posted...

The idea that physical violence is even an option is ridiculous. Guys a fucking hack and among the reasons I've decided to leave the Republican Party until it gets its shit back in order.

Some of you guys need to stop freaking out if you don't understand someone's argument. He never said it was a live option. In fact, JBP argues against violence. His argument is that possibility of physical violence is always PRESENT between two men in a dispute due to evolutionary mechanisms that predate history.

Also, lmao at relating him to the republicans. He's not even a conservative let alone a republican.

don't waste your time, they're willfully ignorant. Peterson makes the looney left look stupid for fun, and all these hacks can do is attack him ad hominem. They can't refute him intellectually, they're no where near intelligent enough.

On_The_Edge posted...

. His argument is that possibility of physical violence is always PRESENT between two men in a dispute due to evolutionary mechanisms that predate history.

And he would be wrong.

On_The_Edge posted...

Also, lmao at relating him to the republicans. He's not even a conservative let alone a republican.

All of my republican friends love him. Whatever he may be, his fans are your generic conservatives who vote republican.
Him and Trump getting in on the party along with Bannon, Spencer, and Milo really show that I've outgrown the party I've supported for 20+ years.

SGT_Conti posted...

"Last resort" means that it's an option always on the table and there's always a threat of physical violence in an argument. Aside from how absurd that is coming from a supposed advocate of free speech, it's really odd to hear that from a rallying symbol of the alt-right, which is a group of people who believe that Neo-Nazis should not be assaulted for their beliefs under any circumstances.

Using someone's belief that acts of violence as a response to speech being unacceptable as some sort of foothold to forge an argument that they're nazi sympathisers is a really weird thing to do. If I was a meme'ing man I'd be inclined to claim its why Trump won.

NibeIungsnarf posted...

SGT_Conti posted...

"Last resort" means that it's an option always on the table and there's always a threat of physical violence in an argument. Aside from how absurd that is coming from a supposed advocate of free speech, it's really odd to hear that from a rallying symbol of the alt-right, which is a group of people who believe that Neo-Nazis should not be assaulted for their beliefs under any circumstances.

Using someone's belief that acts of violence as a response to speech being unacceptable as some sort of foothold to forge an argument that they're nazi sympathisers is a really weird thing to do. If I was a meme'ing man I'd be inclined to claim its why Trump won.

I never said he himself sympathised with Nazis, only that it's baffling that he's held in such high regard by a group that espouses beliefs incompatible with his own. And as mentioned earlier, he absolutely is pandering to a very specific kind of person, but I suppose that they'd rally around him no matter what he said at this point.
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He is 100% right that when men deal with each other there is an ever present possibility of violence, and it serves to keep people civil. You know when dealing with a man you cant cross certain boundaries else it can lead to a fight.

When dealing with women its usually not an option and it greatly impacts discourse. Its like countries negotiating terms, their is always a possibility of war...which no one wants, however it is important that it exists as it serves to keep everyone operating in good faith more or less.

I am a liberal through and through and agree with like 97% of Jordan Petersons views...sometimes i wonder how thats possible.

Oh yea, fuck republicans.
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NINExATExSEVEN posted...

Jordan Peterson is also a con man that says what his audience wants to hear because they pay him over 50k a month via patreon.

What's he promising that he isn't delivering?

He's a clinical psychologist and a professor of psychology at the University of Toronto. He doesn't need to con anyone.

He's one of the few teachers with the balls to stand against and combat the cultural marxist and leftist authoritarian hive-mind plaguing academia. Someone like that will gain lots of positive attention.
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Got a summary of the video? I don't want to spend over 40 minutes on this.

Peterson is the most reasonable voice out there when it comes to arguments against the radical left (and right). You couldn't design up someone who could do a better job at trying to improve things than the way he is doing it. And working out and thinking about that process and trying to be careful with how he speaks and goes about that process in each video.

It's VERY telling who is being completely disingenuous in this topic and has an agenda to smear him and who actually cares to pay attention to his videos.
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