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UnfairRepresent 12/23/17 1:28:50 PM #1: |
Politicians from across Norways political spectrum have come together in an initiative against increasing online hate speech.
Labour municipal politician Khamshajiny Gunaratnam, a deputy spokesperson in the Oslo city council, spoke of her own experience receiving hateful messages. It is a huge problem. We have seen that it is often directed at young girls, and it is even worse if they are from a minority background, Gunaratnam told NRK. All parties in Oslos city council have given their backing to a joint statement against online harassment of the citys politicians. We wish to send a clear signal to say that all politicians in the city council stand together strongly to fight online hate. We would like young people and many more women to join in. It is important to show that regardless of party, we are together on this, the Progress Partys Aina Stenersen told NRK. Gunaratnam told the broadcaster she was the target of online hate after being named as a deputy spokesperson in the council in 2015. The day I became deputy spokesperson, the messages flooded in. But what is worse than being a politician subjected to online hate is that other people see us [being abused online, ed.] and think again about saying what they think. That is a huge problem for democracy, she said. Oslo Municipality filed a report with police earlier this year after environmental and urban planning committee leader Lan Marie Nguyen Berg received several threatening messages. It is important here that although we are speaking out against hateful messages against me or Lan for example, that does not mean you cannot disagree with us. You should be able to put forward your viewpoints in a constructive and civilised manner, Gunaratnam said. The Oslo Municipality campaign against online hate aimed at politicians is inspired in part by the #metoo movement, Stenersen told NRK. We have seen with the metoo campaign that harassment and sexually inappropriate behaviour destroys entire working environments. So it is good to know that we in the city council are standing together and supporting each other, she said. Full Article: https://www.thelocal.no/20171220/oslo-politicians-start-campaign-against-online-hate 80/80 I guess the issue here which even they mention in the article is where does "disagreement" end and "hate speech" begin. I mean I just heavily implied Trump was an idiot a moment ago. Does that equal hate speech? --- ^ Hey now that's completely unfair. https://imgtc.com/i/14JHfrt.jpg ... Copied to Clipboard!
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darkjedilink 12/23/17 1:36:39 PM #2: |
If you don't believe in free speech, yes, insulting Trump is hate speech.
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knutjob 12/23/17 1:41:06 PM #3: |
Wasn't there a study recently that most online bullying against girls was overwhelmingly perpetrated by other girls? I'm not saying vulnerable people shouldn't be protected but this sure seems like virtue signalling.
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Steve Nick 12/23/17 1:42:32 PM #4: |
yea I don't think dudes 'bullying' girls is a thing.
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UnfairRepresent 12/23/17 1:42:33 PM #5: |
knutjob posted...
Wasn't there a study recently that most online bullying against girls was overwhelmingly perpetrated by other girls? And these means we can't oppose it because? --- ^ Hey now that's completely unfair. https://imgtc.com/i/14JHfrt.jpg ... Copied to Clipboard!
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darkjedilink 12/23/17 2:06:19 PM #6: |
UnfairRepresent posted...
knutjob posted...Wasn't there a study recently that most online bullying against girls was overwhelmingly perpetrated by other girls? Because we're supposed to believe in freedom of speech. --- 'It's okay that those gangbangers stole all my personal belongings and cash at gunpoint, cuz they're building a rec center!' - OneTimeBen ... Copied to Clipboard!
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knutjob 12/24/17 3:21:04 AM #7: |
UnfairRepresent posted...
knutjob posted...Wasn't there a study recently that most online bullying against girls was overwhelmingly perpetrated by other girls? Nice selective quoting ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Fishy 12/24/17 3:23:15 AM #8: |
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UnfairRepresent 12/26/17 5:15:44 AM #9: |
knutjob posted...
UnfairRepresent posted...knutjob posted...Wasn't there a study recently that most online bullying against girls was overwhelmingly perpetrated by other girls? Nice Evasion --- ^ Hey now that's completely unfair. https://imgtc.com/i/14JHfrt.jpg ... Copied to Clipboard!
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TheCyborgNinja 12/26/17 5:19:17 AM #10: |
I've seen a lot of people shit on lots of girls online for no reason, really. The fact of the matter is that it's basically only the USA that has pure free speech. Everywhere else is either a present or former monarchy (or something like it) and doesn't technically have it written down. Enough other freedoms may exist to give the illusion of it, but it's not technically there.
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UncleBourbon33 12/26/17 5:28:07 AM #11: |
Hey now, that's
Completely unfair. --- "Wanting something doesn't make it a human right." https://i.imgur.com/aqrImUY.gif ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Mal_Fet 12/26/17 5:31:01 AM #12: |
Wasn't there a study that showed the overwhelming majority of harassment of women online comes from other women
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UnfairRepresent 12/26/17 5:32:54 AM #13: |
Mal_Fet posted...
Wasn't there a study that showed the overwhelming majority of harassment of women online comes from other women And that means we can't oppose it Because? --- ^ Hey now that's completely unfair. https://imgtc.com/i/14JHfrt.jpg ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Mal_Fet 12/26/17 5:34:55 AM #14: |
UnfairRepresent posted...
Mal_Fet posted...Wasn't there a study that showed the overwhelming majority of harassment of women online comes from other women It doesn't, but to label these cases as "hate speech" is therefore pretty disingenuous. --- Freedom is the right to tell people what they do not want to hear. -George Orwell ... Copied to Clipboard!
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FLUFFYGERM 12/26/17 5:35:12 AM #15: |
Europe leading the way yet again. Although I wish they would've made this less about girls and more about hate online in general.
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UnfairRepresent 12/26/17 5:35:32 AM #16: |
Mal_Fet posted...
UnfairRepresent posted...Mal_Fet posted...Wasn't there a study that showed the overwhelming majority of harassment of women online comes from other women Why is that? --- ^ Hey now that's completely unfair. https://imgtc.com/i/14JHfrt.jpg ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Mal_Fet 12/26/17 5:37:41 AM #17: |
UnfairRepresent posted...
Mal_Fet posted...UnfairRepresent posted...Mal_Fet posted...Wasn't there a study that showed the overwhelming majority of harassment of women online comes from other women Because it indicates the motive for this harassment is that the abuser hates women Buuut the abuser is most often a woman too See a problem here? --- Freedom is the right to tell people what they do not want to hear. -George Orwell ... Copied to Clipboard!
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UnfairRepresent 12/26/17 5:39:54 AM #18: |
Mal_Fet posted...
UnfairRepresent posted...Mal_Fet posted...UnfairRepresent posted...Mal_Fet posted...Wasn't there a study that showed the overwhelming majority of harassment of women online comes from other women Women can hate women dude. Christ you think people who lynched black people aren't hateful because they are all men? --- ^ Hey now that's completely unfair. https://imgtc.com/i/14JHfrt.jpg ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Mal_Fet 12/26/17 5:45:02 AM #19: |
UnfairRepresent posted...
Women can hate women dude. That was the worst possible example you could have used. Yeah, obviously people didn't lynch black men because they're self-hating males. That would be a really silly motive to ascribe. Just as in this case: why the hell would you just assume the motive all these women have is that they just hate their own gender? --- Freedom is the right to tell people what they do not want to hear. -George Orwell ... Copied to Clipboard!
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UnfairRepresent 12/26/17 5:48:25 AM #20: |
You're intentionally not following the point to be obtuse
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Mal_Fet 12/26/17 5:50:45 AM #21: |
UnfairRepresent posted...
You're intentionally not following the point to be obtuse No, I just see no reason to believe the motivation behind women harassing other women is due to bigotry. --- Freedom is the right to tell people what they do not want to hear. -George Orwell ... Copied to Clipboard!
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UnfairRepresent 12/26/17 6:09:39 AM #22: |
Mal_Fet posted...
UnfairRepresent posted...You're intentionally not following the point to be obtuse This is about women in power being harassed and hated online. Specifically young and minority women. Going "well women might be hating women too " isn't really relevant to anything It's just dumb --- ^ Hey now that's completely unfair. https://imgtc.com/i/14JHfrt.jpg ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Mal_Fet 12/26/17 6:52:22 AM #23: |
UnfairRepresent posted...
This is about women in power being harassed and hated online. Specifically young and minority women. They say it's "hate speech" though Where's the evidence that this harassment is motivated by hatred of women? Let's start there. --- Freedom is the right to tell people what they do not want to hear. -George Orwell ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Forlorn_Ass 12/26/17 7:29:55 AM #24: |
Lol topic fell apart on TC
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Esrac 12/26/17 8:11:39 AM #25: |
Eh...
As loath as I am to admit it, I think Mal_Fet has a point. If most of the harassment against women online comes from other women, then I don't think we can rightly call that hate speech. Hate speech suggests the harassment is done because you hate that person's identity as a woman, not because you hate her specifically as a person. It seems unlikely that there are many women who hate other women because they're women. That doesn't mean we shouldn't try to scale back online harassment, but it does mean maybe we shouldn't be so hasty with the hate speech rhetoric. --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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einegutePerson 12/26/17 8:18:50 AM #26: |
TIL: women are incapable of hating other women because they are women
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masterpug53 12/26/17 8:30:27 AM #27: |
Is this our big chance to see Unfair and Mal arguing each other into comas?
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UnfairRepresent 12/26/17 8:55:43 AM #28: |
einegutePerson posted...
TIL: women are incapable of hating other women because they are women It's bizarre but people seriously think this --- ^ Hey now that's completely unfair. https://imgtc.com/i/14JHfrt.jpg ... Copied to Clipboard!
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r4X0r 12/26/17 9:10:07 AM #29: |
Their continent is being overrun with migrants and their biggest concern is people saying mean things on the Internet?
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einegutePerson 12/26/17 9:12:17 AM #30: |
r4X0r posted...
Their continent is being overrun with migrants and their biggest concern is people saying mean things on the Internet? wow it's almost as though you believe these people are all inherently bad based on their region of origin and ethnicity --- im a good person ... Copied to Clipboard!
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r4X0r 12/26/17 9:20:46 AM #31: |
No, I only believe the ones who rape women and children are bad.
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einegutePerson 12/26/17 9:23:45 AM #32: |
r4X0r posted...
No, I only believe the ones who rape women and children are bad. but factually, these are not the ones that are "overrunning" europe lmfao r4X0r posted... Their continent is being overrun with migrants --- im a good person ... Copied to Clipboard!
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r4X0r 12/26/17 9:27:35 AM #33: |
but factually, they are
lmfao https://www.gatestoneinstitute.org/8663/germany-migrants-rape Germany's migrant rape crisis has now spread to cities and towns in all 16 of Germany's federal states. Just one example in one country of many. --- Professionals are predictable- it's the amateurs who are dangerous. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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PinkiePie462 12/26/17 3:01:50 PM #34: |
Tell the girls to be nicer to each other.
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FreedomEtrtment 12/28/17 5:55:24 AM #35: |
lmao
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