Current Events > Oprah would actually be a fairly tough opponent for Trump

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Her whole shtick is that she's an angel, so he can't go the Crooked Hillary approach.
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Literally any reasonable Democrat nominee would have been a fairly tough opponent for Trump. Hillary was the only one who could lose
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well, a black woman would highly motivate his base, that's for sure.
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Oprah is better than Hillary could ever hope to be. I don't think she'd win, but I think it would be fairly close. And, unlike Hillary, Oprah wouldn't need the votes from ~15 million illegal immigrants to make it a competitive race.
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Giant_Aspirin posted...

well, a black woman would highly motivate his base, that's for sure.

Giant_Aspirin posted...

well, a black woman would highly motivate his base, that's for sure.

Nah, it would motivate the other base since all they do is vote on skin color (See: PA - specifically, Philadelphia). Wonder why PA went red? Not much of a mystery.
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Caution999 posted...

Giant_Aspirin posted...

well, a black woman would highly motivate his base, that's for sure.

Nah,

oh.

also, your reply is basically "i know you are but what am i"
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pieisthebest posted...

Literally any reasonable Democrat nominee would have been a fairly tough opponent for Trump. Hillary was the only one who could lose

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Oprah would slaughter trump if they were going against each other, it wouldn't even be close.

She can point at a book and say this is good, and it instantly becomes a best seller.

She also can tell people to vote and they will do so, especially after the last election where everyone assumed that trump had no chance.

All that said, I don't want celebrities as PotUS I want people with actual political backgrounds (Hillary being the exception, not a fan).
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Dustin1280 posted...

She can point at a book and say this is good, and it instantly becomes a best seller.

She also can tell people to vote and they will do so, especially after the last election where everyone assumed that trump had no chance.

Bruh. Best Seller is like...a million copies. Need waaaaay more than a million votes to win.

She might be a decent opponent, but it won't be a landslide in her favor by any means.
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That's a blessing and a curse. If she can maintain a sparkly image, she would probably win pretty easily. But if any dirt comes out on her she's done.
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Asherlee10 posted...

I would hope the DNC would be behind Sanders rather than Oprah. I don't want TV stars as our only options.

issue isn't the DNC there

it's black women

they were clinton's main base and powered her through the primaries. DNC endorsements suppressed turnout for sanders but a sanders v oprah run, done fairly, would be severely hampered by the fact that black women are never gonna vote for sanders over oprah
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pieisthebest posted...

Literally any reasonable Democrat nominee would have been a fairly tough opponent for Trump. Hillary was the only one who could lose

Basically.
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YOUHAVENOHOPE posted...

pieisthebest posted...

Literally any reasonable Democrat nominee would have been a fairly tough opponent for Trump. Hillary was the only one who could lose

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That said, the willingness to throw support and speculation behind Oprah before knowing any of her policy views more detailed than "rape is bad" is, uh, telling.
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s0nicfan posted...

YOUHAVENOHOPE posted...

pieisthebest posted...

Literally any reasonable Democrat nominee would have been a fairly tough opponent for Trump. Hillary was the only one who could lose

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Antifar posted...

That said, the willingness to throw support and speculation behind Oprah before knowing any of her policy views more detailed than "rape is bad" is, uh, telling.

if you haven't figured out that no one cares about policies yet, I fear you may never
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Antifar posted...

That said, the willingness to throw support and speculation behind Oprah before knowing any of her policy views more detailed than "rape is bad" is, uh, telling.

It's not like people had reasons for supporting Bernie other than that he used the word "free" a lot.
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Balrog0 posted...

if you haven't figured out that no one cares about policies yet, I fear you may never

No, I understand, but it's bad for actual people. And for Democrats, too. You've got ~220 house races to win, and there aren't 220 Oprahs. You have to have something more than celebrity to sell people.
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Knowledge_King posted...

Dustin1280 posted...

She can point at a book and say this is good, and it instantly becomes a best seller.

She also can tell people to vote and they will do so, especially after the last election where everyone assumed that trump had no chance.

Bruh. Best Seller is like...a million copies. Need waaaaay more than a million votes to win.

She might be a decent opponent, but it won't be a landslide in her favor by any means.

Trump can tweet at 3AM and it'll become global headlines.

Oprah doesn't have anywhere close to that brand power.

Antifar posted...

That said, the willingness to throw support and speculation behind Oprah before knowing any of her policy views more detailed than "rape is bad" is, uh, telling.

"Rape is bad" is a better policy than "grab them by the pussy"
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Anarchy_Juiblex posted...

Antifar posted...

That said, the willingness to throw support and speculation behind Oprah before knowing any of her policy views more detailed than "rape is bad" is, uh, telling.

"Rape is bad" is a better policy than "grab them by the pussy"

You're not wrong!
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Anarchy_Juiblex posted...

Antifar posted...

That said, the willingness to throw support and speculation behind Oprah before knowing any of her policy views more detailed than "rape is bad" is, uh, telling.

"Rape is bad" is a better policy than "grab them by the pussy"

Good thing that's not a policy?
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She would clobber him.

yoloyoloswagEMP posted...

Trump can tweet at 3AM and it'll become global headlines.

Of course he can...now. He's the fucking President. The world is practically obligated to at least read his tweets.

If you honestly don't believe Oprah would have that kind of "brand power" if she were the President or a legitimate presidential candidate then you've lost touch with reality.
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Caution999 posted...

Giant_Aspirin posted...

well, a black woman would highly motivate his base, that's for sure.

Nah, it would motivate the other base since all they do is vote on skin color (See: PA - specifically, Philadelphia). Wonder why PA went red? Not much of a mystery.

Not true. Pennsylvania besides Philadelphia and Pittsburgh is very republican. Everything in between is like a southern state.

I live in the capital and the busiest this city gets is thus week, during the Farm Show.
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Aristoph posted...

yoloyoloswagEMP posted...

Trump can tweet at 3AM and it'll become global headlines.

Of course he can...now. He's the fucking President. The world is practically obligated to at least read his tweets.

If you honestly don't believe Oprah would have that kind of "brand power" if she were the President or a legitimate presidential candidate then you've lost touch with reality.

She would be competing against him, in his current state and brand power bruh

I'm talking about what it'd be like if she ran for POTUS.

It's a hell of a lot easier to keep a 2nd term than win a first presidential campaign.

Skywalker82 posted...

Caution999 posted...

Giant_Aspirin posted...

well, a black woman would highly motivate his base, that's for sure.

Nah, it would motivate the other base since all they do is vote on skin color (See: PA - specifically, Philadelphia). Wonder why PA went red? Not much of a mystery.

Not true. Pennsylvania besides Philadelphia and Pittsburgh is very republican. Everything in between is like a southern state.

I live in the capital and the busiest this city gets is thus week, during the Farm Show.

Exactly. And I'm saying, factually, the African Americans did not come out to vote like they did with Obama.
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yoloyoloswagEMP posted...

She would be competing against him, in his current state and brand power bruh

And she would at the very least be comparable in brand power (and most likely stronger, given the broad scope of the affection most people tend to have for her already) if she were competing in a direct head-to-head campaign battle with Trump for the presidency. Bruh.

yoloyoloswagEMP posted...

I'm talking about what it'd be like if she ran for POTUS.

So am I. Hence why I said:
Aristoph posted...

if she were the President or a legitimate presidential candidate

Reality is calling. It's trying to get in touch with you, but it's apparently having some trouble.
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Does Oprah even want to run?

I'm pretty sure her immaculate image is integral to her success. If she ran in politics there's no doubt it would tarnish how people see her for the worse.
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Any remotely competent Democrat should be able to defeat Trump. If the Dems fuck this up again by nominating Oprah and losing to Trump for a second time, the party should be officially abolished.
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And by the way any democrat who wants to vouch for Oprah is revealing an absurd level of hypocrisy if they ever held the opinion that the problem with Trump is that he's not professionally qualified for the job.
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pinky0926 posted...

And by the way any democrat who wants to vouch for Oprah is revealing an absurd level of hypocrisy if they ever held the opinion that the problem with Trump is that he's not professionally qualified for the job.

One of the few things that averagejoel and I agree on:
averagejoel posted...

supporting Oprah would be a great way of saying "I'm just as stupid as people who support Trump, but I'm not a racist misogynist"

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The Admiral posted...

Any remotely competent Democrat should be able to defeat Trump. If the Dems fuck this up again by nominating Oprah and losing to Trump for a second time, the party should be officially abolished.

The Democrats have nothing to run on. Things are going too smoothly now for a Democrat to have any chance of winning.
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r4X0r posted...

The Democrats have nothing to run on. Things are going too smoothly now for a Democrat to have any chance of winning.

yet they're set for a 10+ point advantage in the house election this year

funny how reality doesn't match what you post
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Aristoph posted...

Reality is calling. It's trying to get in touch with you, but it's apparently having some trouble.

no need to be a dick

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