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hockeybub89 01/11/18 3:36:36 PM #1:	Not talking every #MeToo accusation, but literal rape. Given that the vast majority are legitimate and that accusations need to be taken seriously to even determine their validity, what created this false mentality in society? --- http://card.psnprofiles.com/1/NIR_Hockey.png http://www.last.fm/user/hockeybub89/ <cite>hockeybub89 posted [p:893849899] in Why do peo... [t:76190681]...</cite> <quote>Not talking every #MeToo accusation, but literal rape. Given that the vast majority are legitimate and that accusations need to be taken seriously to even determine their validity, what created this false mentality in society?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Sabram 01/11/18 3:37:23 PM #2:	[Citation Needed] --- Finally completed the Platinum for Hyperdimension Neptunia Re;Birth 1 on Vita. PSN: Sabram - NNID: Lord.Sabram <cite>Sabram posted [p:893849950] in Why do peo... [t:76190681]...</cite> <quote>[Citation Needed]</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Mal_Fet 01/11/18 3:37:45 PM #3:	Because people should be considered innocent until proven guilty? --- Freedom is the right to tell people what they do not want to hear. -George Orwell <cite>Mal_Fet posted [p:893849972] in Why do peo... [t:76190681]...</cite> <quote>Because people should be considered innocent until proven guilty?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
The Admiral 01/11/18 3:37:55 PM #4:	They don't. They assume the accused is legally innocent until proven guilty, and that a mere accusation short of that should not ruin his life, career, and reputation. --- - The Admiral <cite>The Admiral posted [p:893849985] in Why do peo... [t:76190681]...</cite> <quote>They don't. They assume the accused is legally innocent until proven guilty, and that a mere accusation short of that should not ruin his life, career, and reputation.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
WaffIeElite 01/11/18 3:38:02 PM #5:	Innocent until proven guilty, for starters. It's kind of how the system works. --- I have a signature. Apparently this is important, but I still don't have my secret cool kid decoder ring yet. <cite>WaffIeElite posted [p:893849997] in Why do peo... [t:76190681]...</cite> <quote>Innocent until proven guilty, for starters. It's kind of how the system works.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Kamala_Harris 01/11/18 3:38:07 PM #6:	Innocent until proven guilty <cite>Kamala_Harris posted [p:893849999] in Why do peo... [t:76190681]...</cite> <quote>Innocent until proven guilty</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
BlueTigerLion 01/11/18 3:38:12 PM #7:	Sabram posted... [Citation Needed] --- Hey now. <cite>BlueTigerLion posted [p:893850008] in Why do peo... [t:76190681]...</cite> <quote><cite>Sabram posted...</cite> <quote>[Citation Needed]</quote></quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
MB2012 01/11/18 3:38:25 PM #8:	Mal_Fet posted... Because people should be considered innocent until proven guilty? What if there isn't any proof though? Should we just let all the people accused of rape go free? --- Yeet i.redd.it/1ewnrrutys001.png <cite>MB2012 posted [p:893850026] in Why do peo... [t:76190681]...</cite> <quote><cite>Mal_Fet posted...</cite> <quote>Because people should be considered innocent until proven guilty?</quote> What if there isn't any proof though? Should we just let all the people accused of rape go free?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
BringThemToHeel 01/11/18 3:39:24 PM #9:	This topic fell apart quickly. <cite>BringThemToHeel posted [p:893850096] in Why do peo... [t:76190681]...</cite> <quote>This topic fell apart quickly.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
The Admiral 01/11/18 3:39:32 PM #10:	MB2012 posted... Mal_Fet posted... Because people should be considered innocent until proven guilty? What if there isn't any proof though? Should we just let all the people accused of rape go free? Yes, if there isn't proof to convict someone of a crime, they should go free... --- - The Admiral <cite>The Admiral posted [p:893850101] in Why do peo... [t:76190681]...</cite> <quote><cite>MB2012 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Mal_Fet posted...</cite> <quote>Because people should be considered innocent until proven guilty?</quote> What if there isn't any proof though? Should we just let all the people accused of rape go free?</quote> Yes, if there isn't proof to convict someone of a crime, they should go free...</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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brotrrwinner 01/11/18 3:42:34 PM #12:	MB2012 posted... Mal_Fet posted... Because people should be considered innocent until proven guilty? What if there isn't any proof though? Should we just let all the people accused of rape go free? Look, it's not rocket science. According to your logic, someone could accuse you of rape and you'd go to jail automatically, even though you didn't do anything wrong. How do you feel about your theory now? --- September 21st, 2008 Never forget <cite>brotrrwinner posted [p:893850300] in Why do peo... [t:76190681]...</cite> <quote><cite>MB2012 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Mal_Fet posted...</cite> <quote>Because people should be considered innocent until proven guilty?</quote> What if there isn't any proof though? Should we just let all the people accused of rape go free?</quote> Look, it's not rocket science. According to your logic, someone could accuse you of rape and you'd go to jail automatically, even though you didn't do anything wrong. How do you feel about your theory now?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
hockeybub89 01/11/18 3:43:42 PM #13:	Mal_Fet posted... Because people should be considered innocent until proven guilty? Why isn't that benefit given to rape accusers though? They are committing a crime if they are lying, so why should we assume they are breaking the law when they usually aren't? How can we even determine the truth of anything if we assume it all bullshit from the world go? What motivation do we have? I think you're overestimating the intelligence of the average person. --- http://card.psnprofiles.com/1/NIR_Hockey.png http://www.last.fm/user/hockeybub89/ <cite>hockeybub89 posted [p:893850377] in Why do peo... [t:76190681]...</cite> <quote><cite>Mal_Fet posted...</cite> <quote>Because people should be considered innocent until proven guilty?</quote> Why isn't that benefit given to rape accusers though? They are committing a crime if they are lying, so why should we assume they are breaking the law when they usually aren't? How can we even determine the truth of anything if we assume it all bullshit from the world go? What motivation do we have? I think you're overestimating the intelligence of the average person.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DifferentialEquation 01/11/18 3:44:04 PM #14:	The Admiral posted... They don't. They assume the accused is legally innocent until proven guilty, and that a mere accusation short of that should not ruin his life, career, and reputation. --- There's no business to be taxed. <cite>DifferentialEquation posted [p:893850406] in Why do peo... [t:76190681]...</cite> <quote><cite>The Admiral posted...</cite> <quote>They don't. They assume the accused is legally innocent until proven guilty, and that a mere accusation short of that should not ruin his life, career, and reputation.</quote></quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Irony 01/11/18 3:44:58 PM #15:	Most stuff is false --- I am Mogar, God of Irony and The Devourer of Topics. http://i.imgtc.com/tHc3mIo.png http://i.imgtc.com/PYxw8Lm.png <cite>Irony posted [p:893850461] in Why do peo... [t:76190681]...</cite> <quote>Most stuff is false</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Gamer99z 01/11/18 3:45:21 PM #16:	Mal_Fet posted... Because people should be considered innocent until proven guilty? There's a huge difference between believing someone, but still waiting for the legal process to play out properly and immediately assuming they're lying about it and just want attention or to ruin someone's life. But TC, people irl don't typically do that, just bitter internet nerds who have a bitterness towards women because they won't sleep with them. They spend so much time in bitter woman hating communities online that constantly post about false rape accusations and such they delude themselves into believing that it's always like that. Generally irl it's the exact opposite where you might be jumping the gun to 100% believe a rape accusation as fact when it might not be. The proper way to handle it is an to generally believe they're more than likely telling the truth, but not treat an accusation as a proven fact immediately. --- "You need to lay off the peanut-butthurt and u-jelly sandwiches" - NeonOctopus <cite>Gamer99z posted [p:893850487] in Why do peo... [t:76190681]...</cite> <quote><cite>Mal_Fet posted...</cite> <quote>Because people should be considered innocent until proven guilty?</quote> There's a huge difference between believing someone, but still waiting for the legal process to play out properly and immediately assuming they're lying about it and just want attention or to ruin someone's life. But TC, people irl don't typically do that, just bitter internet nerds who have a bitterness towards women because they won't sleep with them. They spend so much time in bitter woman hating communities online that constantly post about false rape accusations and such they delude themselves into believing that it's always like that. Generally irl it's the exact opposite where you might be jumping the gun to 100% believe a rape accusation as fact when it might not be. The proper way to handle it is an to generally believe they're more than likely telling the truth, but not treat an accusation as a proven fact immediately.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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hockeybub89 01/11/18 3:46:15 PM #18:	DifferentialEquation posted... The Admiral posted... They don't. They assume the accused is legally innocent until proven guilty, and that a mere accusation short of that should not ruin his life, career, and reputation. Is this why we call accusers gold digging sluts? Because we don't want to jump to conclusions and ruin reputations? --- http://card.psnprofiles.com/1/NIR_Hockey.png http://www.last.fm/user/hockeybub89/ <cite>hockeybub89 posted [p:893850550] in Why do peo... [t:76190681]...</cite> <quote><cite>DifferentialEquation posted...</cite> <quote><cite>The Admiral posted...</cite> <quote>They don't. They assume the accused is legally innocent until proven guilty, and that a mere accusation short of that should not ruin his life, career, and reputation.</quote></quote> Is this why we call accusers gold digging sluts? Because we don't want to jump to conclusions and ruin reputations?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Gamer99z 01/11/18 3:46:42 PM #19:	fenderbender321 posted... hockeybub89 posted... Mal_Fet posted... Because people should be considered innocent until proven guilty? Why isn't that benefit given to rape accusers though? They are committing a crime if they are lying, so why should we assume they are breaking the law when they usually aren't? How can we even determine the truth of anything if we assume it all bullshit from the world go? What motivation do we have? I think you're overestimating the intelligence of the average person. Neither side can be 'proven' guilty, though. So we'd have to assume both sides are innocent, for the reasons I stated above. ITP: Rape can't be proven. --- "You need to lay off the peanut-butthurt and u-jelly sandwiches" - NeonOctopus <cite>Gamer99z posted [p:893850578] in Why do peo... [t:76190681]...</cite> <quote><cite>fenderbender321 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>hockeybub89 posted...</cite> <quote> <cite>Mal_Fet posted...</cite> <quote> Because people should be considered innocent until proven guilty? </quote> Why isn't that benefit given to rape accusers though? They are committing a crime if they are lying, so why should we assume they are breaking the law when they usually aren't? How can we even determine the truth of anything if we assume it all bullshit from the world go? What motivation do we have? I think you're overestimating the intelligence of the average person.</quote> Neither side can be 'proven' guilty, though. So we'd have to assume both sides are innocent, for the reasons I stated above.</quote> ITP: Rape can't be proven.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
SevenTenths 01/11/18 3:46:43 PM #20:	Why do you assume most people don't? --- If you do things right, people won't be sure that you have done anything at all. I Like Toast Alt <cite>SevenTenths posted [p:893850579] in Why do peo... [t:76190681]...</cite> <quote>Why do you assume most people don't?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
GreatEvilEmpire 01/11/18 3:47:07 PM #21:	If someone accuses you of raping them and you didn't do it, but everyone believes that you did it, how would you view the situation then? It could ruin your life forever. Wouldn't you want everyone to give you a fair shake and not paint you as guilty just because you're accused? There's been many cases of false rap accusations, from attention seekers, mentally unstable people and bitter exes. There are also a lot of true rape accusations and they should be dealt with accordingly, but like many people has already said: Innocent until proven guilty. --- Sig under construction! <cite>GreatEvilEmpire posted [p:893850606] in Why do peo... [t:76190681]...</cite> <quote>If someone accuses you of raping them and you didn't do it, but everyone believes that you did it, how would you view the situation then? It could ruin your life forever. Wouldn't you want everyone to give you a fair shake and not paint you as guilty just because you're accused? There's been many cases of false rap accusations, from attention seekers, mentally unstable people and bitter exes. There are also a lot of true rape accusations and they should be dealt with accordingly, but like many people has already said: Innocent until proven guilty.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
hockeybub89 01/11/18 3:47:45 PM #22:	Gamer99z posted... But TC, people irl don't typically do that, just bitter internet nerds who have a bitterness towards women because they won't sleep with them. They spend so much time in bitter woman hating communities online that constantly post about false rape accusations and such they delude themselves into believing that it's always like that. Generally irl it's the exact opposite where you might be jumping the gun to 100% believe a rape accusation as fact when it might not be. I guess this is likely the case. --- http://card.psnprofiles.com/1/NIR_Hockey.png http://www.last.fm/user/hockeybub89/ <cite>hockeybub89 posted [p:893850641] in Why do peo... [t:76190681]...</cite> <quote><cite>Gamer99z posted...</cite> <quote> But TC, people irl don't typically do that, just bitter internet nerds who have a bitterness towards women because they won't sleep with them. They spend so much time in bitter woman hating communities online that constantly post about false rape accusations and such they delude themselves into believing that it's always like that. Generally irl it's the exact opposite where you might be jumping the gun to 100% believe a rape accusation as fact when it might not be.</quote> I guess this is likely the case.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
The Admiral 01/11/18 3:48:27 PM #23:	hockeybub89 posted... DifferentialEquation posted... The Admiral posted... They don't. They assume the accused is legally innocent until proven guilty, and that a mere accusation short of that should not ruin his life, career, and reputation. Is this why we call accusers gold digging sluts? Because we don't want to jump to conclusions and ruin reputations? Looks like TC came well equipped --- - The Admiral <cite>The Admiral posted [p:893850683] in Why do peo... [t:76190681]...</cite> <quote><cite>hockeybub89 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>DifferentialEquation posted...</cite> <quote><cite>The Admiral posted...</cite> <quote>They don't. They assume the accused is legally innocent until proven guilty, and that a mere accusation short of that should not ruin his life, career, and reputation.</quote></quote> Is this why we call accusers gold digging sluts? Because we don't want to jump to conclusions and ruin reputations?</quote> Looks like TC came well equipped </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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hockeybub89 01/11/18 3:49:56 PM #25:	The Admiral posted... hockeybub89 posted... DifferentialEquation posted... The Admiral posted... They don't. They assume the accused is legally innocent until proven guilty, and that a mere accusation short of that should not ruin his life, career, and reputation. Is this why we call accusers gold digging sluts? Because we don't want to jump to conclusions and ruin reputations? Looks like TC came well equipped We are talking innocent until proven guilty and not jumping to conclusions, no? --- http://card.psnprofiles.com/1/NIR_Hockey.png http://www.last.fm/user/hockeybub89/ <cite>hockeybub89 posted [p:893850785] in Why do peo... [t:76190681]...</cite> <quote><cite>The Admiral posted...</cite> <quote><cite>hockeybub89 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>DifferentialEquation posted...</cite> <quote><cite>The Admiral posted...</cite> <quote>They don't. They assume the accused is legally innocent until proven guilty, and that a mere accusation short of that should not ruin his life, career, and reputation.</quote></quote> Is this why we call accusers gold digging sluts? Because we don't want to jump to conclusions and ruin reputations?</quote> Looks like TC came well equipped </quote> We are talking innocent until proven guilty and not jumping to conclusions, no?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Zeeak4444 01/11/18 3:50:10 PM #26:	Mal_Fet posted... Because people should be considered innocent until proven guilty? That's rich you feel that way in this one situation. Considering you condemn people without them being proven guilty all the time. But hey, fuck integrity mirite? --- Typical gameFAQers are "Complainers that always complain about those who complain about real legitimate complaints."-Joker_X <cite>Zeeak4444 posted [p:893850800] in Why do peo... [t:76190681]...</cite> <quote><cite>Mal_Fet posted...</cite> <quote>Because people should be considered innocent until proven guilty?</quote> That's rich you feel that way in this one situation. Considering you condemn people without them being proven guilty all the time. But hey, fuck integrity mirite?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
The Admiral 01/11/18 3:51:16 PM #27:	hockeybub89 posted... We are talking innocent until proven guilty and not jumping to conclusions, no? You were originally talking about thinking rape accusations were false, then somehow morphed that into claiming people think accusers are gold digging sluts. --- - The Admiral <cite>The Admiral posted [p:893850876] in Why do peo... [t:76190681]...</cite> <quote><cite>hockeybub89 posted...</cite> <quote>We are talking innocent until proven guilty and not jumping to conclusions, no?</quote> You were originally talking about thinking rape accusations were false, then somehow morphed that into claiming people think accusers are gold digging sluts.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
WaffIeElite 01/11/18 3:51:39 PM #28:	MB2012 posted... Mal_Fet posted... Because people should be considered innocent until proven guilty? What if there isn't any proof though? Should we just let all the people accused of rape go free? Yes. That's exactly how the system works. --- I have a signature. Apparently this is important, but I still don't have my secret cool kid decoder ring yet. <cite>WaffIeElite posted [p:893850902] in Why do peo... [t:76190681]...</cite> <quote><cite>MB2012 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Mal_Fet posted...</cite> <quote>Because people should be considered innocent until proven guilty?</quote> What if there isn't any proof though? Should we just let all the people accused of rape go free?</quote> Yes. That's exactly how the system works.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
SevenTenths 01/11/18 3:51:51 PM #29:	The Admiral posted... hockeybub89 posted... We are talking innocent until proven guilty and not jumping to conclusions, no? You were originally talking about thinking rape accusations were false, then somehow morphed that into claiming people think accusers are gold digging sluts. TC thinks only celebrities and athletes rape people --- If you do things right, people won't be sure that you have done anything at all. I Like Toast Alt <cite>SevenTenths posted [p:893850915] in Why do peo... [t:76190681]...</cite> <quote><cite>The Admiral posted...</cite> <quote><cite>hockeybub89 posted...</cite> <quote>We are talking innocent until proven guilty and not jumping to conclusions, no?</quote> You were originally talking about thinking rape accusations were false, then somehow morphed that into claiming people think accusers are gold digging sluts.</quote> TC thinks only celebrities and athletes rape people</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
emblem boy 01/11/18 3:52:54 PM #30:	Mal_Fet posted... Because people should be considered innocent until proven guilty? I mean, you can take an accusation seriously while still believing they are legally innocent --- Posted with GameRaven 3.3 <cite>emblem boy posted [p:893851002] in Why do peo... [t:76190681]...</cite> <quote><cite>Mal_Fet posted...</cite> <quote>Because people should be considered innocent until proven guilty?</quote> I mean, you can take an accusation seriously while still believing they are legally innocent</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Zeeak4444 01/11/18 3:54:12 PM #31:	The Admiral posted... hockeybub89 posted... We are talking innocent until proven guilty and not jumping to conclusions, no? You were originally talking about thinking rape accusations were false, then somehow morphed that into claiming people think accusers are gold digging sluts. How did you miss the point that much. Quite impressive, if it wasn't intentional. --- Typical gameFAQers are "Complainers that always complain about those who complain about real legitimate complaints."-Joker_X <cite>Zeeak4444 posted [p:893851086] in Why do peo... [t:76190681]...</cite> <quote><cite>The Admiral posted...</cite> <quote><cite>hockeybub89 posted...</cite> <quote>We are talking innocent until proven guilty and not jumping to conclusions, no?</quote> You were originally talking about thinking rape accusations were false, then somehow morphed that into claiming people think accusers are gold digging sluts.</quote> How did you miss the point that much. Quite impressive, if it wasn't intentional.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Darksaber310 01/11/18 3:58:44 PM #32:	hockeybub89 posted... Mal_Fet posted... Because people should be considered innocent until proven guilty? Why isn't that benefit given to rape accusers though? They are committing a crime if they are lying, so why should we assume they are breaking the law when they usually aren't? How can we even determine the truth of anything if we assume it all bullshit from the world go? What motivation do we have? I think you're overestimating the intelligence of the average person. Because the criminal aspect is literally unprovable, and even in the tiny handful of cases where you can show malicious intent, the case gets dropped and the woman sees zero legal reprecussions. Because hugely popularized cases turning out to be not only fabrications but malicious ones poisons the well. Because we're afraid to take a forward step in education, teaching the importance of immediate reporting and rape kits over not wanting to offend and feelings. --- Once again snatching defeat, From the jaws of victory. <cite>Darksaber310 posted [p:893851393] in Why do peo... [t:76190681]...</cite> <quote><cite>hockeybub89 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Mal_Fet posted...</cite> <quote>Because people should be considered innocent until proven guilty?</quote> Why isn't that benefit given to rape accusers though? They are committing a crime if they are lying, so why should we assume they are breaking the law when they usually aren't? How can we even determine the truth of anything if we assume it all bullshit from the world go? What motivation do we have? I think you're overestimating the intelligence of the average person.</quote> Because the criminal aspect is literally unprovable, and even in the tiny handful of cases where you can show malicious intent, the case gets dropped and the woman sees zero legal reprecussions. Because hugely popularized cases turning out to be not only fabrications but malicious ones poisons the well. Because we're afraid to take a forward step in education, teaching the importance of immediate reporting and rape kits over not wanting to offend and feelings.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
averagejoel 01/11/18 4:00:54 PM #33:	GreatEvilEmpire posted... If someone accuses you of raping them and you didn't do it, but everyone believes that you did it, how would you view the situation then? It could ruin your life forever. Wouldn't you want everyone to give you a fair shake and not paint you as guilty just because you're accused? There's been many cases of false rap accusations, from attention seekers, mentally unstable people and bitter exes. There are also a lot of true rape accusations and they should be dealt with accordingly, but like many people has already said: Innocent until proven guilty. the problem of false rape accusations is minuscule in comparison with the problems of unreported and unpunished rape --- peanut butter and dick <cite>averagejoel posted [p:893851536] in Why do peo... [t:76190681]...</cite> <quote><cite>GreatEvilEmpire posted...</cite> <quote>If someone accuses you of raping them and you didn't do it, but everyone believes that you did it, how would you view the situation then? It could ruin your life forever. Wouldn't you want everyone to give you a fair shake and not paint you as guilty just because you're accused? There's been many cases of false rap accusations, from attention seekers, mentally unstable people and bitter exes. There are also a lot of true rape accusations and they should be dealt with accordingly, but like many people has already said: Innocent until proven guilty.</quote> the problem of false rape accusations is minuscule in comparison with the problems of unreported and unpunished rape</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Ultima Dragon 01/11/18 4:02:03 PM #34:	Typically false? No.. but there's enough "I had sex with this one guy but then regretted it later/didn't want to be judged so rape!" going around that it's extremely harmful to victims of actual rape. Which is a shame. That, and all "sexual assault" sort of being lumped together doesn't help either. There's a pretty big difference between being violently raped or taken advantage of when drugged/passed out/otherwise incapacitated and having a guy that you don't find sexually appealing ask you on a date or give you an unwanted gift. --- "It's Canada, their idea of rioting is a half-muttered swear word." - deathbeforelife <cite>Ultima Dragon posted [p:893851607] in Why do peo... [t:76190681]...</cite> <quote>Typically false? No.. but there's enough "I had sex with this one guy but then regretted it later/didn't want to be judged so rape!" going around that it's extremely harmful to victims of actual rape. Which is a shame. That, and all "sexual assault" sort of being lumped together doesn't help either. There's a pretty big difference between being violently raped or taken advantage of when drugged/passed out/otherwise incapacitated and having a guy that you don't find sexually appealing ask you on a date or give you an unwanted gift.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Zeeak4444 01/11/18 4:03:00 PM #35:	Darksaber310 posted... hockeybub89 posted... Mal_Fet posted... Because people should be considered innocent until proven guilty? Why isn't that benefit given to rape accusers though? They are committing a crime if they are lying, so why should we assume they are breaking the law when they usually aren't? How can we even determine the truth of anything if we assume it all bullshit from the world go? What motivation do we have? I think you're overestimating the intelligence of the average person. Because the criminal aspect is literally unprovable, and even in the tiny handful of cases where you can show malicious intent, the case gets dropped and the woman sees zero legal reprecussions. Because hugely popularized cases turning out to be not only fabrications but malicious ones poisons the well. Because we're afraid to take a forward step in education, teaching the importance of immediate reporting and rape kits over not wanting to offend and feelings. I'd argue it's more "we can't spend money on that!" over anything else. Said by the same people hemorrhaging money on frivolous expenses. --- Typical gameFAQers are "Complainers that always complain about those who complain about real legitimate complaints."-Joker_X <cite>Zeeak4444 posted [p:893851673] in Why do peo... [t:76190681]...</cite> <quote><cite>Darksaber310 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>hockeybub89 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Mal_Fet posted...</cite> <quote>Because people should be considered innocent until proven guilty?</quote> Why isn't that benefit given to rape accusers though? They are committing a crime if they are lying, so why should we assume they are breaking the law when they usually aren't? How can we even determine the truth of anything if we assume it all bullshit from the world go? What motivation do we have? I think you're overestimating the intelligence of the average person.</quote> Because the criminal aspect is literally unprovable, and even in the tiny handful of cases where you can show malicious intent, the case gets dropped and the woman sees zero legal reprecussions. Because hugely popularized cases turning out to be not only fabrications but malicious ones poisons the well. Because we're afraid to take a forward step in education, teaching the importance of immediate reporting and rape kits over not wanting to offend and feelings.</quote> I'd argue it's more "we can't spend money on that!" over anything else. Said by the same people hemorrhaging money on frivolous expenses.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
averagejoel 01/11/18 4:06:37 PM #36:	Ultima Dragon posted... Typically false? No.. but there's enough "I had sex with this one guy but then regretted it later/didn't want to be judged so rape!" going around that it's extremely harmful to victims of actual rape. Which is a shame. That, and all "sexual assault" sort of being lumped together doesn't help either. There's a pretty big difference between being violently raped or taken advantage of when drugged/passed out/otherwise incapacitated and having a guy that you don't find sexually appealing ask you on a date or give you an unwanted gift. is there actually that much, or is it just that this board has a ton of Redpill/MGTOW/Incel/GamerGate conspiracy-obsessed people on it and it's shifting the narrative? --- peanut butter and dick <cite>averagejoel posted [p:893851897] in Why do peo... [t:76190681]...</cite> <quote><cite>Ultima Dragon posted...</cite> <quote>Typically false? No.. but there's enough "I had sex with this one guy but then regretted it later/didn't want to be judged so rape!" going around that it's extremely harmful to victims of actual rape. Which is a shame. That, and all "sexual assault" sort of being lumped together doesn't help either. There's a pretty big difference between being violently raped or taken advantage of when drugged/passed out/otherwise incapacitated and having a guy that you don't find sexually appealing ask you on a date or give you an unwanted gift.</quote> is there actually that much, or is it just that this board has a ton of Redpill/MGTOW/Incel/GamerGate conspiracy-obsessed people on it and it's shifting the narrative?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Tropicalwood 01/11/18 4:07:50 PM #37:	Because the courts sentence people based on a testimony and no actual evidence, and even when they admit to lying about it years later, the justice system still won't release the victims with due compensation. --- ayy lmao ayy lmao \|\| oaml oaml yya yya ayy lmao ayy lmao \|\| oaml oaml yya yya <cite>Tropicalwood posted [p:893851980] in Why do peo... [t:76190681]...</cite> <quote>Because the courts sentence people based on a testimony and no actual evidence, and even when they admit to lying about it years later, the justice system still won't release the victims with due compensation.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Ultima Dragon 01/11/18 4:11:07 PM #38:	averagejoel posted... is there actually that much, or is it just that this board has a ton of Redpill/MGTOW/Incel/GamerGate conspiracy-obsessed people on it and it's shifting the narrative? I mean, these days it seems rare to find a woman that doesn't claim to have been sexually assaulted at some point. I dare say it's almost the trendy thing to do, like telling everyone how depressed you are or how bad your anxiety/OCD/ADD/whatever is. Which again, is doing a terrible injustice to victims of actual rape. --- "It's Canada, their idea of rioting is a half-muttered swear word." - deathbeforelife <cite>Ultima Dragon posted [p:893852196] in Why do peo... [t:76190681]...</cite> <quote><cite>averagejoel posted...</cite> <quote>is there actually that much, or is it just that this board has a ton of Redpill/MGTOW/Incel/GamerGate conspiracy-obsessed people on it and it's shifting the narrative?</quote> I mean, these days it seems rare to find a woman that doesn't claim to have been sexually assaulted at some point. I dare say it's almost the trendy thing to do, like telling everyone how depressed you are or how bad your anxiety/OCD/ADD/whatever is. Which again, is doing a terrible injustice to victims of actual rape.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
averagejoel 01/11/18 4:31:38 PM #39:	Ultima Dragon posted... averagejoel posted... is there actually that much, or is it just that this board has a ton of Redpill/MGTOW/Incel/GamerGate conspiracy-obsessed people on it and it's shifting the narrative? I mean, these days it seems rare to find a woman that doesn't claim to have been sexually assaulted at some point. I dare say it's almost the trendy thing to do, like telling everyone how depressed you are or how bad your anxiety/OCD/ADD/whatever is. Which again, is doing a terrible injustice to victims of actual rape. is it "trendy" or is is just that people feel more comfortable opening up, knowing that they're among fellow victims and other people who will believe them? you're probably conflating "assault" and "harassment" - I don't know the statistics off the top of my head, but there's a significant number of women who have experienced the former, and since the latter is a broader term, it would not surprise me if 100% of women had experienced the latter --- peanut butter and dick <cite>averagejoel posted [p:893853571] in Why do peo... [t:76190681]...</cite> <quote><cite>Ultima Dragon posted...</cite> <quote><cite>averagejoel posted...</cite> <quote>is there actually that much, or is it just that this board has a ton of Redpill/MGTOW/Incel/GamerGate conspiracy-obsessed people on it and it's shifting the narrative?</quote> I mean, these days it seems rare to find a woman that doesn't claim to have been sexually assaulted at some point. I dare say it's almost the trendy thing to do, like telling everyone how depressed you are or how bad your anxiety/OCD/ADD/whatever is. Which again, is doing a terrible injustice to victims of actual rape.</quote> is it "trendy" or is is just that people feel more comfortable opening up, knowing that they're among fellow victims and other people who will believe them? you're probably conflating "assault" and "harassment" - I don't know the statistics off the top of my head, but there's a significant number of women who have experienced the former, and since the latter is a broader term, it would not surprise me if 100% of women had experienced the latter</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
J E S U S 01/11/18 4:40:27 PM #40:	hockeybub89 posted... The Admiral posted... hockeybub89 posted... DifferentialEquation posted... The Admiral posted... They don't. They assume the accused is legally innocent until proven guilty, and that a mere accusation short of that should not ruin his life, career, and reputation. Is this why we call accusers gold digging sluts? Because we don't want to jump to conclusions and ruin reputations? Looks like TC came well equipped We are talking innocent until proven guilty and not jumping to conclusions, no? looks like a duke lacross net to me --- imaginary <cite>J E S U S posted [p:893854181] in Why do peo... [t:76190681]...</cite> <quote><cite>hockeybub89 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>The Admiral posted...</cite> <quote><cite>hockeybub89 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>DifferentialEquation posted...</cite> <quote><cite>The Admiral posted...</cite> <quote>They don't. They assume the accused is legally innocent until proven guilty, and that a mere accusation short of that should not ruin his life, career, and reputation.</quote></quote> Is this why we call accusers gold digging sluts? Because we don't want to jump to conclusions and ruin reputations?</quote> Looks like TC came well equipped </quote> We are talking innocent until proven guilty and not jumping to conclusions, no?</quote> looks like a duke lacross net to me</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
HiddenRoar 01/11/18 4:41:14 PM #41:	Mattress girl. <cite>HiddenRoar posted [p:893854223] in Why do peo... [t:76190681]...</cite> <quote>Mattress girl.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Mal_Fet 01/11/18 4:41:49 PM #42:	MB2012 posted... Mal_Fet posted... Because people should be considered innocent until proven guilty? What if there isn't any proof though? Should we just let all the people accused of rape go free? Yes. Could you imagine a world where you can be thrown in jail for any crime you don't have an alibi for? --- Freedom is the right to tell people what they do not want to hear. -George Orwell <cite>Mal_Fet posted [p:893854269] in Why do peo... [t:76190681]...</cite> <quote><cite>MB2012 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Mal_Fet posted...</cite> <quote>Because people should be considered innocent until proven guilty?</quote> What if there isn't any proof though? Should we just let all the people accused of rape go free?</quote> Yes. Could you imagine a world where you can be thrown in jail for any crime you don't have an alibi for?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Zeeak4444 01/11/18 4:42:28 PM #43:	J E S U S posted... hockeybub89 posted... The Admiral posted... hockeybub89 posted... DifferentialEquation posted... The Admiral posted... They don't. They assume the accused is legally innocent until proven guilty, and that a mere accusation short of that should not ruin his life, career, and reputation. Is this why we call accusers gold digging sluts? Because we don't want to jump to conclusions and ruin reputations? Looks like TC came well equipped We are talking innocent until proven guilty and not jumping to conclusions, no? looks like a duke lacross net to me What... that's a soccer net. Lacrosse is wayyyyyyy smaller. --- Typical gameFAQers are "Complainers that always complain about those who complain about real legitimate complaints."-Joker_X <cite>Zeeak4444 posted [p:893854309] in Why do peo... [t:76190681]...</cite> <quote><cite>J E S U S posted...</cite> <quote><cite>hockeybub89 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>The Admiral posted...</cite> <quote><cite>hockeybub89 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>DifferentialEquation posted...</cite> <quote><cite>The Admiral posted...</cite> <quote>They don't. They assume the accused is legally innocent until proven guilty, and that a mere accusation short of that should not ruin his life, career, and reputation.</quote></quote> Is this why we call accusers gold digging sluts? Because we don't want to jump to conclusions and ruin reputations?</quote> Looks like TC came well equipped </quote> We are talking innocent until proven guilty and not jumping to conclusions, no?</quote> looks like a duke lacross net to me</quote> What... that's a soccer net. Lacrosse is wayyyyyyy smaller.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Zeeak4444 01/11/18 4:43:05 PM #44:	Mal_Fet posted... MB2012 posted... Mal_Fet posted... Because people should be considered innocent until proven guilty? What if there isn't any proof though? Should we just let all the people accused of rape go free? Yes. Could you imagine a world where you can be thrown in jail for any crime you don't have an alibi for? Well considering that happened for decades, yes, I can. --- Typical gameFAQers are "Complainers that always complain about those who complain about real legitimate complaints."-Joker_X <cite>Zeeak4444 posted [p:893854350] in Why do peo... [t:76190681]...</cite> <quote><cite>Mal_Fet posted...</cite> <quote><cite>MB2012 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Mal_Fet posted...</cite> <quote>Because people should be considered innocent until proven guilty?</quote> What if there isn't any proof though? Should we just let all the people accused of rape go free?</quote> Yes. Could you imagine a world where you can be thrown in jail for any crime you don't have an alibi for?</quote> Well considering that happened for decades, yes, I can.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
darkjedilink 01/11/18 4:56:14 PM #45:	hockeybub89 posted... Not talking every #MeToo accusation, but literal rape. Given that the vast majority are legitimate and that accusations need to be taken seriously to even determine their validity, what created this false mentality in society? It's not that they're assumed false. It's that the accused has a right to be viewed as innocent until proven guilty. A lot of people, especially modern feminists, believe that the claim is all that should be necessary to imprison someone for rape, instead of actually having to prove it. --- 'It's okay that those gangbangers stole all my personal belongings and cash at gunpoint, cuz they're building a rec center!' - OneTimeBen <cite>darkjedilink posted [p:893855146] in Why do peo... [t:76190681]...</cite> <quote><cite>hockeybub89 posted...</cite> <quote>Not talking every #MeToo accusation, but literal rape. Given that the vast majority are legitimate and that accusations need to be taken seriously to even determine their validity, what created this false mentality in society?</quote> It's not that they're assumed false. It's that the accused has a right to be viewed as innocent until proven guilty. A lot of people, especially modern feminists, believe that the claim is all that should be necessary to imprison someone for rape, instead of actually having to prove it.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
darkjedilink 01/11/18 5:02:41 PM #46:	emblem boy posted... Mal_Fet posted... Because people should be considered innocent until proven guilty? I mean, you can take an accusation seriously while still believing they are legally innocent Which 99% of the population does. I have never seen or heard a single situation where someone hears a rape claim and says 'we don't need to investigate that.' --- 'It's okay that those gangbangers stole all my personal belongings and cash at gunpoint, cuz they're building a rec center!' - OneTimeBen <cite>darkjedilink posted [p:893855590] in Why do peo... [t:76190681]...</cite> <quote><cite>emblem boy posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Mal_Fet posted...</cite> <quote>Because people should be considered innocent until proven guilty?</quote> I mean, you can take an accusation seriously while still believing they are legally innocent</quote> Which 99% of the population does. I have never seen or heard a single situation where someone hears a rape claim and says 'we don't need to investigate that.'</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
darkjedilink 01/11/18 5:03:43 PM #47:	averagejoel posted... Ultima Dragon posted... averagejoel posted... is there actually that much, or is it just that this board has a ton of Redpill/MGTOW/Incel/GamerGate conspiracy-obsessed people on it and it's shifting the narrative? I mean, these days it seems rare to find a woman that doesn't claim to have been sexually assaulted at some point. I dare say it's almost the trendy thing to do, like telling everyone how depressed you are or how bad your anxiety/OCD/ADD/whatever is. Which again, is doing a terrible injustice to victims of actual rape. is it "trendy" or is is just that people feel more comfortable opening up, knowing that they're among fellow victims and other people who will believe them? you're probably conflating "assault" and "harassment" - I don't know the statistics off the top of my head, but there's a significant number of women who have experienced the former, and since the latter is a broader term, it would not surprise me if 100% of women had experienced the latter How many of them think being asked out to dinner is sexual harassment? --- 'It's okay that those gangbangers stole all my personal belongings and cash at gunpoint, cuz they're building a rec center!' - OneTimeBen <cite>darkjedilink posted [p:893855668] in Why do peo... [t:76190681]...</cite> <quote><cite>averagejoel posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Ultima Dragon posted...</cite> <quote><cite>averagejoel posted...</cite> <quote>is there actually that much, or is it just that this board has a ton of Redpill/MGTOW/Incel/GamerGate conspiracy-obsessed people on it and it's shifting the narrative?</quote> I mean, these days it seems rare to find a woman that doesn't claim to have been sexually assaulted at some point. I dare say it's almost the trendy thing to do, like telling everyone how depressed you are or how bad your anxiety/OCD/ADD/whatever is. Which again, is doing a terrible injustice to victims of actual rape.</quote> is it "trendy" or is is just that people feel more comfortable opening up, knowing that they're among fellow victims and other people who will believe them? you're probably conflating "assault" and "harassment" - I don't know the statistics off the top of my head, but there's a significant number of women who have experienced the former, and since the latter is a broader term, it would not surprise me if 100% of women had experienced the latter</quote> How many of them think being asked out to dinner is sexual harassment?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
J E S U S 01/11/18 5:08:58 PM #48:	Zeeak4444 posted... J E S U S posted... hockeybub89 posted... The Admiral posted... hockeybub89 posted... DifferentialEquation posted... The Admiral posted... They don't. They assume the accused is legally innocent until proven guilty, and that a mere accusation short of that should not ruin his life, career, and reputation. Is this why we call accusers gold digging sluts? Because we don't want to jump to conclusions and ruin reputations? Looks like TC came well equipped We are talking innocent until proven guilty and not jumping to conclusions, no? looks like a duke lacross net to me What... that's a soccer net. Lacrosse is wayyyyyyy smaller. look up duke lacrosse.... --- imaginary <cite>J E S U S posted [p:893856032] in Why do peo... [t:76190681]...</cite> <quote><cite>Zeeak4444 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>J E S U S posted...</cite> <quote><cite>hockeybub89 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>The Admiral posted...</cite> <quote><cite>hockeybub89 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>DifferentialEquation posted...</cite> <quote><cite>The Admiral posted...</cite> <quote>They don't. They assume the accused is legally innocent until proven guilty, and that a mere accusation short of that should not ruin his life, career, and reputation.</quote></quote> Is this why we call accusers gold digging sluts? Because we don't want to jump to conclusions and ruin reputations?</quote> Looks like TC came well equipped </quote> We are talking innocent until proven guilty and not jumping to conclusions, no?</quote> looks like a duke lacross net to me</quote> What... that's a soccer net. Lacrosse is wayyyyyyy smaller.</quote> look up duke lacrosse....</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
weapon_d00d816 01/11/18 5:11:47 PM #49:	Because there's a lot to gain depending on who the accused is. --- SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SlG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SlG <cite>weapon_d00d816 posted [p:893856222] in Why do peo... [t:76190681]...</cite> <quote>Because there's a lot to gain depending on who the accused is.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
EbonTitanium 01/11/18 5:14:15 PM #50:	Rape is a very hard thing to prove. Unless the person gets a rape kit done, it's all hearsay. --- I don't know which is worse: fanboys or elitist. <cite>EbonTitanium posted [p:893856399] in Why do peo... [t:76190681]...</cite> <quote>Rape is a very hard thing to prove. Unless the person gets a rape kit done, it's all hearsay.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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