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On_The_Edge
01/16/18 12:05:38 PM
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Feminists revealing their true colors yet again. So the girl can give every non verbal cue in the book but because she didn't outright say no, they defend Aziz. What happened to fucking outright explicit consent that they peddled for years? This is hilariously sad.
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Kaname_Madoka
01/16/18 12:06:39 PM
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Your tag is suitable.
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Muffinz0rz
01/16/18 12:07:04 PM
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Where is he getting a pass?
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MAGA_2020
01/16/18 12:07:19 PM
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At the end of the day, she had a clear choice to make: do I want to leave, or do I want to blow Aziz Ansari. While I understand regretting it, she made her decision.
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YourDrunkFather
01/16/18 12:08:50 PM
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Non verbal cues like consenceually placing his dick in her mouth?
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On_The_Edge
01/16/18 12:09:11 PM
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MAGA_2020 posted...
At the end of the day, she had a clear choice to make: do I want to leave, or do I want to blow Aziz Ansari. While I understand regretting it, she made her decision.

That's fine if you apply it consistently. That's not what feminists have been saying for years though.

Muffinz0rz posted...
Where is he getting a pass?

Reddit
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Paragon21XX
01/16/18 12:09:22 PM
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MAGA_2020 posted...
At the end of the day, she had a clear choice to make: do I want to leave, or do I want to blow Aziz Ansari. While I understand regretting it, she made her decision.

If she felt the least bit pressured or coerced to perform those acts on him, then all of that goes out the window.
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TheGrindery
01/16/18 12:09:27 PM
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God damnit now I gotta remember that True Colors song.
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Ushiromiya
01/16/18 12:10:40 PM
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Kaname_Madoka posted...
Your tag is suitable.

Likely
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Megaman50100
01/16/18 12:11:05 PM
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More like Asleaze Unsorry
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TheVipaGTS
01/16/18 12:12:08 PM
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Shut the fuck up, TC...Seriously.
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Kolibri X
01/16/18 12:16:04 PM
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He gets a pass because he legitimately didn't do nothin. Which is too bad because I would like to see his life ruined.
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On_The_Edge
01/16/18 12:16:47 PM
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shockthemonkey posted...
More like everyone read her account of what happened and realized that Azizs worst offense was not reading her mind.

Did you miss the part where she obviously doesn't wanna do any of that stuff and says multiple times that she doesn't want to?
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XXmiznatorXX
01/16/18 12:16:53 PM
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Brown? More like all he did was go on a date with a consenting 23 year old woman and she wasn't feeling him afterwards. So where is the assault again?
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lilORANG
01/16/18 12:17:03 PM
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I guess Sly Stallone got a pass because hes... Italian?
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MAGA_2020
01/16/18 12:17:03 PM
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Paragon21XX posted...
MAGA_2020 posted...
At the end of the day, she had a clear choice to make: do I want to leave, or do I want to blow Aziz Ansari. While I understand regretting it, she made her decision.

If she felt the least bit pressured or coerced to perform those acts on him, then all of that goes out the window.


Not really. Unless he threatened her or prevented her from leaving, she had a choice still. You don't get to ruin a career because you have buyers remorse on dick.
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r4X0r
01/16/18 12:17:26 PM
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He gets a "pass" because he didn't do anything wrong. When a woman comes back to your room and willingly performs acts upon your gentleman's region, she doesn't have much of a case when it comes to screaming "rape!"
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creativerealms
01/16/18 12:18:29 PM
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Yeah that explains why Bill Cosby has a pass too... wait.
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TheGrindery
01/16/18 12:18:45 PM
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MAGA_2020 posted...
Paragon21XX posted...
MAGA_2020 posted...
At the end of the day, she had a clear choice to make: do I want to leave, or do I want to blow Aziz Ansari. While I understand regretting it, she made her decision.

If she felt the least bit pressured or coerced to perform those acts on him, then all of that goes out the window.


Not really. Unless he threatened her or prevented her from leaving, she had a choice still. You don't get to ruin a career because you have buyers remorse on dick.

And by don't you mean shouldn't.
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iamintents
01/16/18 12:19:04 PM
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On_The_Edge posted...
Feminists revealing their true colors yet again. So the girl can give every non verbal cue in the book but because she didn't outright say no, they defend Aziz. What happened to fucking outright explicit consent that they peddled for years? This is hilariously sad.

its the alt left eating itself.

just let it happen.

same needs to happen with the alt right
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TheVipaGTS
01/16/18 12:20:22 PM
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XXmiznatorXX posted...
Brown? More like all he did was go on a date with a consenting 23 year old woman and she wasn't feeling him afterwards. So where is the assault again?

Exactly. there seems to be a few people on CE crying about "if he was white!..."...No, in the other cases people are listening to the stories and finding ways to make it seem like assault and taking those allegations seriously...in this case people are listening to her story and there really isn't anyway you can make it sound like assault based on how SHE HERSELF is telling it. Its not two different stories from the accuser and accused with a "you be the judge" element...its the same story from both parties and that story favors Aziz.
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Trigg3rH4ppy
01/16/18 12:20:34 PM
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Paragon21XX posted...
MAGA_2020 posted...
At the end of the day, she had a clear choice to make: do I want to leave, or do I want to blow Aziz Ansari. While I understand regretting it, she made her decision.

If she felt the least bit pressured or coerced to perform those acts on him, then all of that goes out the window.

Nah not really. Unless she felt physically threatened (it's Aziz) there was nothing stopping her from leaving from what she described. She didn't work for him so he's in no position of power over her.

Being too shy to say no when there's no threat to your person or career isn't sexual assault. Regretting a sexual encounter is also not sexual assault.
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HBOSS
01/16/18 12:21:47 PM
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xSt6q0K1KTw

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On_The_Edge
01/16/18 12:21:56 PM
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iamintents posted...
On_The_Edge posted...
Feminists revealing their true colors yet again. So the girl can give every non verbal cue in the book but because she didn't outright say no, they defend Aziz. What happened to fucking outright explicit consent that they peddled for years? This is hilariously sad.

its the alt left eating itself.

just let it happen.

same needs to happen with the alt right

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r4X0r
01/16/18 12:21:57 PM
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Paragon21XX posted...
MAGA_2020 posted...
At the end of the day, she had a clear choice to make: do I want to leave, or do I want to blow Aziz Ansari. While I understand regretting it, she made her decision.

If she felt the least bit pressured or coerced to perform those acts on him, then all of that goes out the window.


"If she felt?" No, sexual assault is not dependent on people's FEELINGS.
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Veggeta_MAX
01/16/18 12:28:52 PM
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Megaman50100 posted...
More like Asleaze Unsorry

lmao
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MAGA_2020
01/16/18 12:29:57 PM
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r4X0r posted...
Paragon21XX posted...
MAGA_2020 posted...
At the end of the day, she had a clear choice to make: do I want to leave, or do I want to blow Aziz Ansari. While I understand regretting it, she made her decision.

If she felt the least bit pressured or coerced to perform those acts on him, then all of that goes out the window.


"If she felt?" No, sexual assault is not dependent on people's FEELINGS.


It would be in Hillary's "America"
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dave_is_slick
01/16/18 12:35:42 PM
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Paragon21XX posted...
MAGA_2020 posted...
At the end of the day, she had a clear choice to make: do I want to leave, or do I want to blow Aziz Ansari. While I understand regretting it, she made her decision.

If she felt the least bit pressured or coerced to perform those acts on him, then all of that goes out the window.

Not at all. She's a fucking adult.
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YOUHAVENOHOPE
01/16/18 12:37:15 PM
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_Near_
01/16/18 12:38:33 PM
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YOUHAVENOHOPE posted...
>2018
>replying to On_The_Edge seriously

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TheGrindery
01/16/18 12:39:26 PM
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dave_is_slick posted...
Paragon21XX posted...
MAGA_2020 posted...
At the end of the day, she had a clear choice to make: do I want to leave, or do I want to blow Aziz Ansari. While I understand regretting it, she made her decision.

If she felt the least bit pressured or coerced to perform those acts on him, then all of that goes out the window.

Not at all. She's a fucking adult.

One of the biggest forms of sexism is coddling women and not letting them have much accountability. A lot of guys do it to feel superior.
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Muffinz0rz
01/16/18 1:24:01 PM
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On_The_Edge posted...
Muffinz0rz posted...
Where is he getting a pass?

Reddit

Link?
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GreatEvilEmpire
01/16/18 1:31:37 PM
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TheGrindery posted...
One of the biggest forms of sexism is coddling women and not letting them have much accountability. A lot of guys do it to feel superior.


And it's not surprising that mostly liberal men that does it.
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The Admiral
01/16/18 1:32:35 PM
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Aziz should be getting a pass because the accusations against him are ridiculous. And that's even if we assume the accuser's story is 100% accurate.
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MAGA_2020
01/16/18 1:54:27 PM
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GreatEvilEmpire posted...
TheGrindery posted...
One of the biggest forms of sexism is coddling women and not letting them have much accountability. A lot of guys do it to feel superior.


And it's not surprising that mostly liberal men that does it.


> liberal

> man

Pick one
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r4X0r
01/16/18 1:56:02 PM
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The Admiral posted...
Aziz should be getting a pass because the accusations against him are ridiculous. And that's even if we assume the accuser's story is 100% accurate.


That's a good point, even IF the accuser's story is 100% accurate, it STILL doesn't show Mr. Haverford doing anything wrong.
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DezDroppedFreak
01/16/18 2:04:46 PM
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Literally haven't seen him get a pass at all in the social circles tc mentioned. I'd say overall he probably has, and I personally don't think it was assault but a gross misinterpretation, and this event opens the door to a conversation about consent, but I haven't seen a 'pass' by any means.
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darkjedilink
01/16/18 2:04:55 PM
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Muffinz0rz posted...
Where is he getting a pass?

https://www.theatlantic.com/entertainment/archive/2018/01/the-humiliation-of-aziz-ansari/550541/

Now, since #MeToo is going after a minority, it's dangerous.
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r4X0r
01/16/18 2:05:53 PM
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DezDroppedFreak posted...
Literally haven't seen him get a pass at all in the social circles tc mentioned. I'd say overall he probably has, and I personally don't think it was assault but a gross misinterpretation, and this event opens the door to a conversation about consent, but I haven't seen a 'pass' by any means.


The problem with the "conversation about consent" that it's opening is that it's somehow legitimate to revoke consent AFTER the fact.
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darkjedilink
01/16/18 2:07:21 PM
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r4X0r posted...
Paragon21XX posted...
MAGA_2020 posted...
At the end of the day, she had a clear choice to make: do I want to leave, or do I want to blow Aziz Ansari. While I understand regretting it, she made her decision.

If she felt the least bit pressured or coerced to perform those acts on him, then all of that goes out the window.

"If she felt?" No, sexual assault is not dependent on people's FEELINGS.

It is according to feminism. That '1 in 5' stat they love to throw around is based on that very idea.
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s0nicfan
01/16/18 2:07:29 PM
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Aziz isn't getting a pass because he's brown. He's getting a fair shake because he isn't white.
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Giant_Aspirin
01/16/18 2:08:45 PM
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i love how you assume it's because of race and nothing else.
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The Admiral
01/16/18 2:09:41 PM
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Giant_Aspirin posted...
i love how you assume it's because of race and nothing else.


It's not an assumption, it's what The Atlantic article said

https://www.theatlantic.com/entertainment/archive/2018/01/the-humiliation-of-aziz-ansari/550541/

I thought it would take a little longer for the hit squad of privileged young white women to open fire on brown-skinned men. I had assumed that on the basis of intersectionality and all that, theyd stay laser focused on college-educated white men for another few months. But were at warp speed now, and the revolutionin many ways so good and so importantis starting to sweep up all sorts of people into its conflagration: the monstrous, the cruel, and the simply unlucky.

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r4X0r
01/16/18 2:10:12 PM
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darkjedilink posted...
r4X0r posted...
Paragon21XX posted...
MAGA_2020 posted...
At the end of the day, she had a clear choice to make: do I want to leave, or do I want to blow Aziz Ansari. While I understand regretting it, she made her decision.

If she felt the least bit pressured or coerced to perform those acts on him, then all of that goes out the window.

"If she felt?" No, sexual assault is not dependent on people's FEELINGS.

It is according to feminism. That '1 in 5' stat they love to throw around is based on that very idea.


We do seem to be getting closer to the day when hurting somebody's feelings becomes a crime.
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Giant_Aspirin
01/16/18 2:11:23 PM
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The Admiral posted...
Giant_Aspirin posted...
i love how you assume it's because of race and nothing else.


It's not an assumption, it's what The Atlantic article said

https://www.theatlantic.com/entertainment/archive/2018/01/the-humiliation-of-aziz-ansari/550541/

I thought it would take a little longer for the hit squad of privileged young white women to open fire on brown-skinned men. I had assumed that on the basis of intersectionality and all that, theyd stay laser focused on college-educated white men for another few months. But were at warp speed now, and the revolutionin many ways so good and so importantis starting to sweep up all sorts of people into its conflagration: the monstrous, the cruel, and the simply unlucky.


the article doesn't say that Ansari is getting a pass because he's brown, does it? at least that's not what i gathered from reading the snippet you posted.

and TC is one of those people who dismisses that stuff as FAKE NEWS anyway, no way he actually got this opinion from there
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untrustful
01/16/18 2:11:30 PM
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You could make a tv show about people who handle context and people who only have the capacity to view superficial details.
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mustachedmystic
01/16/18 2:14:30 PM
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Muffinz0rz posted...
Where is he getting a pass?


If he did get a pass, why do you assume it was because of his skin? Also, assuming your assessment is correct, why wasn't Tavis Smiley afforded the same luxury?

Edit: quoted wrong post, this was meant for TC.
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DezDroppedFreak
01/16/18 2:27:17 PM
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r4X0r posted...
DezDroppedFreak posted...
Literally haven't seen him get a pass at all in the social circles tc mentioned. I'd say overall he probably has, and I personally don't think it was assault but a gross misinterpretation, and this event opens the door to a conversation about consent, but I haven't seen a 'pass' by any means.


The problem with the "conversation about consent" that it's opening is that it's somehow legitimate to revoke consent AFTER the fact.

That's kind of where the issue is getting lost.

So obvious preface; I wasn't there, and only these two people know what happened.

I can see it from your angle, but when I read it, it sounds like a girl that froze up and didn't really know what to do or how to say no, so just went along with it until she reached her limit of putting up with it. Based on what I've read, I think it would be irresponsible to call it assault, but I think it shows an absolute confirmative "yes" is needed before moving on to things like that.
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darkjedilink
01/16/18 2:33:54 PM
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Giant_Aspirin posted...
The Admiral posted...
Giant_Aspirin posted...
i love how you assume it's because of race and nothing else.

It's not an assumption, it's what The Atlantic article said

https://www.theatlantic.com/entertainment/archive/2018/01/the-humiliation-of-aziz-ansari/550541/

I thought it would take a little longer for the hit squad of privileged young white women to open fire on brown-skinned men. I had assumed that on the basis of intersectionality and all that, theyd stay laser focused on college-educated white men for another few months. But were at warp speed now, and the revolutionin many ways so good and so importantis starting to sweep up all sorts of people into its conflagration: the monstrous, the cruel, and the simply unlucky.

the article doesn't say that Ansari is getting a pass because he's brown, does it? at least that's not what i gathered from reading the snippet you posted.

and TC is one of those people who dismisses that stuff as FAKE NEWS anyway, no way he actually got this opinion from there

No, they're calling the woman, and the writer, racist, because intersectionality means Muslims shouldn't be outed yet.
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