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voldothegr8
01/24/18 9:07:47 AM
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Dems are shook, one Californian representative going as far to say it shouldn't be released because the average American is too stupid to understand what it means. If the rumors of its contents are true it's damning to the DNC.

#releasethememo
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Doom_Art
01/24/18 9:10:50 AM
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What is there to report?

If it's anything like those "damning FBI texts" y'all were reeee-ing about it's probably likely the GOP trying to cover Trump's rear
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voldothegr8
01/24/18 9:23:56 AM
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Doom_Art posted...
What is there to report?

If it's anything like those "damning FBI texts" y'all were reeee-ing about it's probably likely the GOP trying to cover Trump's rear

I bet you're dreading all the damage control you'll have to do if it pans out.
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OpheliaAdenade
01/24/18 9:26:55 AM
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It'll be a big nothingburger that Fox News will use to fill time, just like those *gasp* FBI members sending bad texts about Trump was. :v
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Vertania
01/24/18 9:29:59 AM
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Because CE thinks it's all another Russian conspiracy.
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Antifar
01/24/18 9:30:06 AM
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Isn't control of #releasingthememo entirely in the hands of Republicans?
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KiwiTerraRizing
01/24/18 9:30:52 AM
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voldothegr8 posted...
Dems are shook, one Californian representative going as far to say it shouldn't be released because the average American is too stupid to understand what it means. If the rumors of its contents are true it's damning to the DNC.

#releasethememo


Its literally a memo written by Republicans with what they think happened, thats it.

Republicans will take it as fact.
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Doom_Art
01/24/18 11:02:00 AM
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Antifar posted...
Isn't control of #releasingthememo entirely in the hands of Republicans?

It is

Nunes wrote the memo, Nunes is refusing to show the ranking Dems the memo, and Nunes was (surprise surprise) on the Trump transition

He can release it whenever he likes. So I don't know why #releasethememo is a thing in the first place

Also, @voldothegr8 this is why no one is talking about it. It's very transparently crap

KiwiTerraRizing posted...
Its literally a memo written by Republicans with what they think happened, thats it.

Pretty much
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Heineken14
01/24/18 11:07:19 AM
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Doom_Art posted...
What is there to report?

If it's anything like those "damning FBI texts" y'all were reeee-ing about it's probably likely the GOP trying to cover Trump's rear


A bunch of shit Nunes made up and is trying to push as being a big deal now that the Simpson transcripts are out, so they can now use this to deflect away from the Donnie administration.

It's been the right wing playbook this entire time.
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Vertania
01/24/18 11:11:40 AM
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Bullet_Wing posted...
muh RUSSIA
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zH0mPfR
01/24/18 11:12:16 AM
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voldothegr8 posted...
#releasethememo

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PowerMang
01/24/18 11:20:33 AM
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Doom_Art posted...
Nunes wrote the memo, Nunes is refusing to show the ranking Dems the memo, and Nunes was (surprise surprise) on the Trump transition


He also won't show it to the FBI or the Justice Dept.

I wish he would make it public. I want to see what an actual nothingburger looks like ;)
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Doom_Art
01/24/18 11:22:32 AM
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PowerMang posted...
He also won't show it to the FBI or the Justice Dept.

Well jeez I wonder what his reasons for that could be?

@voldothegr8 , comment?
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Heineken14
01/24/18 11:23:47 AM
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Bullet_Wing posted...
PowerMang posted...
Doom_Art posted...
Nunes wrote the memo, Nunes is refusing to show the ranking Dems the memo, and Nunes was (surprise surprise) on the Trump transition


He also won't show it to the FBI or the Justice Dept.

I wish he would make it public. I want to see what an actual nothingburger looks like ;)

That's exactly why he won't make it public. While it's held back, he can make all the claims in the world he wants about it and the regular fox News watchers and Breitbart browsers will eat it up without any critical thinking. If it comes out, they'll be hard pressed to actually make anything of it.


Yep. He essentially took a play out of Donnie's book, when he tried insinuating there were tapes of the Comey meetings and Comey and everyone else was like "omg, that's great! you should release them!" and they were like.... "naaaaaah, nah, I think we're good."
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zH0mPfR
01/24/18 11:25:34 AM
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Doom_Art posted...
PowerMang posted...
He also won't show it to the FBI or the Justice Dept.

Well jeez I wonder what his reasons for that could be?

@voldothegr8 , comment?


Why wouldn't the Dimocrats show their "hacked" server to the FBI?

@Doom_Art
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Doom_Art
01/24/18 11:26:58 AM
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@zH0mPfR if you wanna insert yourself into the conversation, you'd probably wanna stay on topic.

Now, can you give some reasons as to why Nunes would refuse to share his memo with the FBI and Justice Department?
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mario2000
01/24/18 11:30:47 AM
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because it's just another shiny object the GOP is dangling over their voters' heads to distract them from the noose of the russia investigation tightening around their failed god emperor's neck
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Doom_Art
01/24/18 11:31:34 AM
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@zH0mPfR do you not have any reasons?

Or are you busy googling to try to find some?
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zH0mPfR
01/24/18 11:33:44 AM
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mario2000 posted...
noose of the russia investigation


zH0mPfR posted...
Doom_Art posted...
PowerMang posted...
He also won't show it to the FBI or the Justice Dept.

Well jeez I wonder what his reasons for that could be?

@voldothegr8 , comment?


Why wouldn't the Dimocrats show their "hacked" server to the FBI?

@Doom_Art


@mario2000
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Doom_Art
01/24/18 11:34:47 AM
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I'm wondering why you're only able to deflect and unable to stay on topic?

Do you not have any answers to my question, @zH0mPfR ?
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Heineken14
01/24/18 11:34:57 AM
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Why are you refusing to answer the initial question and instead trying to deflect with one of your own?
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mario2000
01/24/18 11:35:52 AM
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zH0mPfR posted...
mario2000 posted...
noose of the russia investigation


zH0mPfR posted...
Doom_Art posted...
PowerMang posted...
He also won't show it to the FBI or the Justice Dept.

Well jeez I wonder what his reasons for that could be?

@voldothegr8 , comment?


Why wouldn't the Dimocrats show their "hacked" server to the FBI?

@Doom_Art


@mario2000

Bullet_Wing posted...
It's so funny how the Trump cultists shrug off the massive Russian investigation as nothingburgers, but then turn to tabloid crap like this as gospel.


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Darkman124
01/24/18 11:41:38 AM
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sounds like a nothingburger that could compromise real US assets. declassification of SECRET+ level material is almost never a good idea
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Vertania
01/24/18 11:48:18 AM
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Bullet_Wing posted...
So why wouldn't they release it right away? There's zero reason not to

I've seen it suggested that they're waiting until just before or during Trump's State of the Union next week. That way the media has less time to spin/downplay it before he talks about it.
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Doom_Art
01/24/18 11:49:27 AM
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Vertania posted...
I've seen it suggested that they're waiting until just before or during Trump's State of the Union next week. That way the media has less time to spin/downplay it before he talks about it.

That's not shifty at all.

And do you have any reasons for the guy who invented the memo refusing to show it to the FBI or Justice Department?
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Heineken14
01/24/18 11:50:18 AM
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Vertania posted...
Bullet_Wing posted...
So why wouldn't they release it right away? There's zero reason not to

I've seen it suggested that they're waiting until just before or during Trump's State of the Union next week. That way the media has less time to spin/downplay it before he talks about it.


Nah, probably to take away from a terrible SOTU speech, because Donnie will go off the rails and blather on like a fucking idiot... because he always does.
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Vertania
01/24/18 11:52:26 AM
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Doom_Art posted...
And do you have any reasons for the guy who invented the memo refusing to show it to the FBI or Justice Department?

Probably because it directly involves members of the FBI. Why would they want to give them a chance to cover their asses before calling them out?
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prince_leo
01/24/18 11:54:17 AM
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state of the union is next week, right? woo boy
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Doom_Art
01/24/18 11:59:26 AM
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Vertania posted...
Probably because it directly involves members of the FBI. Why would they want to give them a chance to cover their asses before calling them out?

A) Who is "them"? Does it involve every single FBI agent? And every person in the Justice Department?
B) It's shifty as hell, because the FBI or Justice Department could likely verify the info in Nunes' invented memo. The fact he's unwilling to pass it over makes it seem as though he's not confident in the veracity of it.
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Vertania
01/24/18 12:21:53 PM
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Doom_Art posted...
A) Who is "them"? Does it involve every single FBI agent? And every person in the Justice Department?

We don't know exactly what's in it, so it's hard to say specifically.

If it includes the decision not to prosecute Hillary and her aides, then Comey would be the main target. Anyone involved in making the decision before the interviews were complete could be in trouble too.

If it includes the "insurance policy" Strzok texts, it could implicate McCabe. There's also the issue of "losing" a bunch of the texts, so whoever was involved with that.

It seems to be mostly about using the Steele dossier to spy though.
Doom_Art posted...
B) It's shifty as hell

I mean, the whole situation with the FBI is ridiculously shifty. Seems like a reasonable measure.
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Doom_Art
01/24/18 12:38:01 PM
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Vertania posted...
We don't know exactly what's in it

Because Nunes doesn't seem to want to release it.

Likely because it's crap

Much like everything else he's done in the last year

Vertania posted...
then Comey would be the main target

Comey no longer works at the FBI

Vertania posted...
Anyone involved in making the decision before the interviews were complete could be in trouble too.

I see no reason why these people would need to see and verify the memo in that case

Vertania posted...
It seems to be mostly about using the Steele dossier to spy though.

Using a credible piece of evidence as a basis and justification for collecting more evidence? Oh the humanity

Vertania posted...
I mean, the whole situation with the FBI is ridiculously shifty.

FBI seems fine to me.

The administration seems intent on politicizing it though.

That's pretty shifty
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Vertania
01/24/18 12:52:00 PM
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Doom_Art posted...
Using a credible piece of evidence as a basis and justification for collecting more evidence? Oh the humanity

"credible"

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prince_leo
01/24/18 12:54:38 PM
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Vertania posted...
"credible"


we know from the fusion gps testimony that the FBI viewed Steele's info as credible because they already had the same info from a Trump insider
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Heineken14
01/24/18 1:14:18 PM
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Vertania posted...
Doom_Art posted...
Using a credible piece of evidence as a basis and justification for collecting more evidence? Oh the humanity

"credible"



Says the guy currently salivating at the latest right wing deflection of the month. lolol
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