Current Events > Apparently Black Panther is an alt-right hero

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King TChalla, or Black Panther, is one of the few well-received black superhero characters cranked out by Marvel Comics, others including the likes of Luke Cage & Nick Fury (who underwent a dramatic racial shift from white to black). Ruth E. Carter, the African-American costume designer for the 2018 Black Panther film, even specified that her involvement and understanding of the Black Lives Matter movement has dramatically influenced her approach to the movie. What many conservatives will quickly realize upon a closer inspection of Wakandan culture is that the character of TChalla resembles the socio-political worldview of the alt-right.

Black Panther is not a character whose backstory, morals, or goals will cater to globalists, multiculturalists, or SJWs. Black Pidgeon Speaks, a cultural commentator whose YouTube channel boasts over 200k subscribers, points out several tenants of Black Panthers character that paints a portrait of TChalla as a hero of the alt-right. Firstly, Black Panther is anti-globalist. Black Panthers moral coda is steeped in a strong nationalistic conviction that constantly places the wellbeing of his peoples history, culture, and identity over any external attempts at opening up the culture and economy of Wakanda, the fictional African country in the Marvel universe. Wakanda is a hierarchal society thats intentionally racially homogeneous, and its immigration policy is essentially isolationist. Other cultural influences are not permitted within Wakandan borders, as Black Panther believes them to be harmful to the wellbeing of his people. The Wakandan King enforces these policies through a culturally entrenched military, the Hatut Zerzae (a former secret police force turned mercenary group) & the Dora Milaje (the Kings all-female Praetorian Guard). In this sense, TChalla expresses strikingly neo-Nazi tendencies.

This is in direct opposition to what the Black Lives Matter movement stands for: diversity, globalism, transgender affirmation & collective value. Instead of diversity, TChalla ensures that the border of Wakanda is impregnable & that its population remains nearly exclusively Wakandan. Instead of globalism, Wakanda is an isolationist country. The patriarchal monarchy of Wakanda thrives on the backs of traditional family units, with TChalla himself being a straight male with a positive relationship with his father, who had been married to a woman. Instead of collective values or socialism, the TChalla goes as far to destroy his countrys main export of vibranium, so that his people would become hard working individuals and not rely on external income. This is Fascism 101: state dominance of the economy.

Secondly, the Kingdom of Wakanda is not a constitutional republic, democracy, or any other form of governmental rule that emerged from the Enlightenment. TChalla is a militaristic absolute monarch & Wakanda is a nation that has historically thrived as a caesaropapist society; that is, the king rules both as the national religious leader and the commander-in-chief. In Wakanda, there is no separation of Church and State, and TChalla is the authoritarian ruler of every aspect of Wakandan society.

Thirdly, and perhaps the most characteristically anti-globalist aspect of Wakandan society, is the fact that although Wakanda possesses universal healthcare and a cure for cancer, its government refuses to assist other countries. Wakanda is chiefly concerned with the wellbeing of its own people, foreign plights and would-be immigrants be damned.

https://intpolicydigest.org/2017/06/26/the-alt-right-has-a-new-hero-and-it-s-black-panther/

Well that's an....interesting take...
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Interesting take by the author or for the movie? Because that's how Black Panther and Wakanda have portrayed in the comics for 50 years.
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wakanada is also make believe so um is peter pan a her otoo them

AverageCEgal posted...

wakanada is also make believe so um is peter pan a her otoo them

What
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ok so like wakanda is fake like not real
and they don't like other people
peter pan is fake and not real
but he doens't like people from outside neverland except wendy
so other than wendy he hates outsiders

so is he a hero too them too

If the author has read Black Panther, it would know that many of these more nationalist leanings within Wakanda are treated as morally complicated by the narrative. Furthermore, Black Panther himself frequently involves himself in drama taking place outside of Wakanda, in the face of his nation's censor, and the narrative treats his as unquestionably heroic. You can even look at the revenge impulse that lead him to reveal the existence of the Black Panther regalia to the world in the MCU's Civil War. The politics of these books are not as supportive as the author claims. He'd be better off criticizing the emptiness of the liberalism on display here with regards to how Marvel uses diversity primarily as a sales tactic.
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Probably right. Also don't see a problem with it.
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bump
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Make Wakanda Great Again
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Yes, Wakanda is ultra-nationalistic and isolationist. They literally hide their location from the rest of the world, to the point that most people think it's a myth. And of course they've got all that sweet vibranium and high-tech advancements, but don't want to share it with other countries. That's privilege on a massive scale. But that is Ok. Wakanda is a sovereign nation and Black Panther is a sovereign ruler. If Wakanda was a real place and its citizens wanted to be left alone, then I would support that.
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leverageblargh posted...

the Black Lives Matter movement stands for: diversity, globalism, transgender affirmation

top kek

This, like, SOOOO hard.
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basically most of the non comic reading fans of Black Panther barely know anything about the character other than his race and are just cheering on a black super hero without realizing how ironic it is.

This could go places, it has my attention and amusement.
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Doesn't Black Panther join the Avengers and becomes a world hero and marries a non-Wakadian(Storm)?
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Cool. Can I expect the alt-right to adopt Black Panther as one of their mascots?

I could see this. Black nationalists are a thing.
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Veggeta X posted...

Doesn't Black Panther join the Avengers and becomes a world hero and marries a non-Wakadian(Storm)?

it's kinda fucked up that Marvel chose him to marry their only major black female. when it first happened many MANY readers were pissed off and felt it was racist. nearly everyone cheered when they got divorced

Lorenzo_2003 posted...

Yes, Wakanda is ultra-nationalistic and isolationist. They literally hide their location from the rest of the world, to the point that most people think it's a myth. And of course they've got all that sweet vibranium and high-tech advancements, but don't want to share it with other countries. That's privilege on a massive scale. But that is Ok. Wakanda is a sovereign nation and Black Panther is a sovereign ruler. If Wakanda was a real place and its citizens wanted to be left alone, then I would support that.

Thing is, they get into shit and then their ruler has to run to outsiders for help like alot. Isolationists should either deal with their own problems or just accept their fates if she is truly going to get bad instead of being hypocritical assholes about it.
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leverageblargh posted...

the Black Lives Matter movement stands for: diversity, globalism, transgender affirmation

top kek

The funniest thing I've read all day.
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Well.....yeah. Black Panther's entire backstory is basically a "fuck you" to the historical exploitation of Africa and its resources.

So T'Challa takes the stance of "We can't trust outsiders because they keep fucking us over and taking our shit" and is why his main bad guy is a colonialist who wants to strip Wakanda of its resources.

T'Challa comes to grow out of this a slight bit in his interactions with the Avengers, specifically Captain America.
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tremain07 posted...

Isolationists should either deal with their own problems or just accept their fates if she is truly going to get bad instead of being hypocritical assholes about it.

Yeah, that's one way. Isolationists don't have to engage in zero interaction with the world, though. Black Panther is an isolationist, but he works with the Avengers from time to time, for example. They could also help other countries with their tech, if they wanted.

RchHomieQuanChi posted...

Calling him alt-right is fucking silly though, because it's not like some huge, global power is coming to the United States to take our shit and leave us dry.

United Nations. They're anti US at this point. Have you read The Ultimates, specifically the early issues? I bet the UN would do that, if they had a similar set of super mercenaries.
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Wakanda: An anti-globablist, ethno-nationalist state with no immigration. How many layers of irony are we at?
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Lorenzo_2003 posted...

United Nations. They're anti US at this point. Have you read The Ultimates, specifically the early issues? I bet the UN would do that, if they had a similar set of super mercenaries.

I never understood how the UN could be so anti US when we fucking host their HQ

I don't want them here and think they should move to europe

Zikten posted...

it's kinda fucked up that Marvel chose him to marry their only major black female. when it first happened many MANY readers were pissed off and felt it was racist.

How? How is that in the slight bit racist?
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Don't respond to Zikten.
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Knowledge_King posted...

Zikten posted...

it's kinda fucked up that Marvel chose him to marry their only major black female. when it first happened many MANY readers were pissed off and felt it was racist.

How? How is that in the slight bit racist?

Pairing the two most famous black people together without any chemistry between them. In hindsight, they could probably use more intraracial pairings for black characters. As it stands, every black character is pretty much guaranteed to have a white lover. But it was a little on the nose to put those two together when the only thing they had in common was their ethnicity.

it'd be interesting to see droves of the alt-right coming to see this
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Zikten posted...

Lorenzo_2003 posted...

United Nations. They're anti US at this point. Have you read The Ultimates, specifically the early issues? I bet the UN would do that, if they had a similar set of super mercenaries.

I never understood how the UN could be so anti US when we fucking host their HQ

I don't want them here and think they should move to europe

It's like how teenagers resent their parents. Or how people grow to resent the people/government they rare dependent on.
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Knowledge_King posted...

Zikten posted...

it's kinda fucked up that Marvel chose him to marry their only major black female. when it first happened many MANY readers were pissed off and felt it was racist.

How? How is that in the slight bit racist?

Tchalla and Ororo have next to nothing in common other than they both are black. fans were outraged when it happened. it was one of the worst PR disasters in Marvel history

and Marvel eventually caved in and divorced them

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S_AS4WZ9S0g

Looks like this guy literally wasn't paying any attention at all in Civil War.
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Reads like a very surface level understanding of the character and cherry picks certain traits that serves their narrative and completely ignores everything else that goes against it like this..

MrNintendo1213 posted...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S_AS4WZ9S0g

Looks like this guy literally wasn't paying any attention at all in Civil War.

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Zikten posted...

Veggeta X posted...

Doesn't Black Panther join the Avengers and becomes a world hero and marries a non-Wakadian(Storm)?

it's kinda fucked up that Marvel chose him to marry their only major black female. when it first happened many MANY readers were pissed off and felt it was racist. nearly everyone cheered when they got divorced

Although in a sense they were also compatible in ways that did not involve race. They were both heroes with a deep sense of justice, well educated with rich cultural histories, capable combatants, and spent time as rulers in their respective homelands.

I can see how they would appear as just a token black couple, but I can also see how they could possibly work very well as a compatible pairing even before race is taken into account.
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Skye Reynolds posted...

Pairing the two most famous black people together without any chemistry between them. In hindsight, they could probably use more intraracial pairings for black characters. As it stands, every black character is pretty much guaranteed to have a white lover. But it was a little on the nose to put those two together when the only thing they had in common was their ethnicity.

They were also both African and worshipped as gods. And they wrote in that they met earlier and Black Panther saved her life.

I don't see why two people from Africa, who are both heroes for the good of others, worshipped as deities, and treated as royalty....don't have anything in common?

And considering there's like NO black couples? Yeah that was great to me. As a black man. We finally got A couple. And a power couple too.

Zikten posted...

Tchalla and Ororo have next to nothing in common other than they both are black. fans were outraged when it happened. it was one of the worst PR disasters in Marvel history

See above. They have a lot in common.

And I've only seen white people be mad tbh. All Black people I know were behind the couple.
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Skye Reynolds posted...

Knowledge_King posted...

Zikten posted...

it's kinda fucked up that Marvel chose him to marry their only major black female. when it first happened many MANY readers were pissed off and felt it was racist.

How? How is that in the slight bit racist?

Pairing the two most famous black people together without any chemistry between them. In hindsight, they could probably use more intraracial pairings for black characters. As it stands, every black character is pretty much guaranteed to have a white lover. But it was a little on the nose to put those two together when the only thing they had in common was their ethnicity.

and they are both africans and met for the first time when they were teenagers

liked them as a couple but dont know why they retconned how they met

original
storm saves t challa

rectonned to
t challa saves storm for some reason
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there was that one comic where BP just flat out says they will not share their technology with the other Africans because the mass of refugees would destroy their own nation. Dude doesn't even give foreign aid lol
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