Current Events > Childhood vaccinations should be mandatory

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Child abuse that resurrects polio should not be allowed in society at-large. At the very least, we should make vaccinations a requirement to go to public school and participate in social programs. Homeschool your kids and stay in the house if God or some Hollywood idiot or whoever is telling you vaccinations are bad.
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It's sad that this is even an issue in 2018
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Should the government drag someone kicking and screaming to the hospital, tie them down with restraints, then forcibly inject them with a vaccination while theyre crying, begging, and pleading to stop?
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Agreed. There is no reason for it not to be, especially since stupid parents are causing things like polio and the measles to come back.
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Ensuring that children get proper nutrition and sleep should be mandatory. The government should monitor our every move and make sure that we are being healthy. That means we should live in temperature-controlled boxes and have our food delivered to us in the correct quantity by government workers.

Government-approved surgeries and modifications should also be mandatory.

Anyone that disagrees shouldn't be allowed to have an opinion in the first place
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fenderbender321 posted...

I think the parents should be able to get their taxes back from the school that would have otherwise educated their child

Hmm. What's your opinion on childless couples paying taxes for education? Or single people?
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fenderbender321 posted...

I have no problem with schools requiring vaccinations, but if a child isn't vaccinated I don't believe they should be removed from their parents, and I think the parents should be able to get their taxes back from the school that would have otherwise educated their child if the child is barred from entry due to non-vaccination. Fair, effective, and efficient.

You don't pay taxes because your kid goes to school there. You pay taxes because you live in that district. If they don't like it they can move. Yours is a stupid idea.
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Nomadic View posted...

Should the government drag someone kicking and screaming to the hospital, tie them down with restraints, then forcibly inject them with a vaccination while theyre crying, begging, and pleading to stop?

Absolutely. And they're morons for crying over it. People get taken to hospitals against their will for their own good every day.

Also, if someone lets their kid die from a curable disease over nonsense beliefs, they should be executed for committing murder.
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fenderbender321 posted...

CyricZ posted...

fenderbender321 posted...

I think the parents should be able to get their taxes back from the school that would have otherwise educated their child

Hmm. What's your opinion on childless couples paying taxes for education? Or single people?

In our current system, everyone pays for education. I'm not going to get into my thoughts on taxes and government's role in society, so I'll just say that everything else being equal, parents of unvaccinated children should be able to get their money back from the school, but that money must be used to educate that child in another manner.

That's stupid
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No government has ever used its power to poison or experiment on people without their consent.

Maybe it's time to consider mandatory quarantines, instead?

you're literally the definition of a fascist if you think forcing vaccines on children is a good idea.
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TC I am a government official.

You have spent an unhealthy amount of time on CE. Please turn off your PC or we will need to shut down your internet on your behalf for your own good.

Your best interests at heart

Big Brother sw26x

Nomadic View posted...

Should the government drag someone kicking and screaming to the hospital, tie them down with restraints, then forcibly inject them with a vaccination while theyre crying, begging, and pleading to stop?

That's pretty much how I got mine. I was a big sissy with needles
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hockeybub89 posted...

vaccinations a requirement to go to public school

Thought they already were

Nomadic View posted...

Should the government drag someone kicking and screaming ... then forcibly inject them with a vaccination while theyre crying, begging, and pleading to stop?

I mean, kids always cry when they get shots. Whether their parents drag/hold them down or not.
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DoomSwell posted...

Thought they already were

DTP, Polio, and MMR are the only 'universal' vaccines.
https://vaccines.procon.org/view.resource.php?resourceID=005979

myzz7 posted...

you're literally the definition of a fascist if you think forcing vaccines on children is a good idea.

Not vaccinating children has a tangible negative health effect on society. We have plenty of health and safety laws without having devolved into a fascist hellhole. What's that thing about freedom to swing your fists ending when your fist hits someone else? It's not about controlling your life. It's about not letting you control other lives. True freedom is a myth that would actually make the world worse. There has to be caveats. Freedom isn't very useful when everyone is sick, injured, or dead.
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Obesity is destroying America and TC literally wants fascism because of some anti vaxxers

B-b-but JENNY MCCARTHY said...

silentwing26x posted...

Obesity is destroying America and TC literally wants fascism because of some anti vaxxers

You tried
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tc are you in favor of forcing obese people to work out?

If vaccines cause autism, then why isn't EVERYONE (who gets vaccines, which is almost everyone) autistic?
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silentwing26x posted...

tc are you in favor of forcing obese people to work out?

I know where your trying to go with this. Being obese is only dangerous to the individual, it has nothing to do with me, just like vaccines.

Except that not getting vaccines puts everyone else at risk. It's not just the individual that can die, other people can die because a kid wasn't vaccinated. Until other people can die from coming in contact with an obese person, it's not a good comparison.
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silentwing26x posted...

tc are you in favor of forcing obese people to work out?

No, why would I care what people do to themselves? How many ones of people are at risk of disease from being in the same building as a fat person?

How fascist do you think it is that food factory workers aren't allowed to shit in the food and that doctors aren't allowed to use dirty needles?
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markconigliaro posted...

silentwing26x posted...

tc are you in favor of forcing obese people to work out?

I know where your trying to go with this. Being obese is only dangerous to the individual, it has nothing to do with me, just like vaccines.

Except that not getting vaccines puts everyone else at risk. It's not just the individual that can die, other people can die because a kid wasn't vaccinated. Until other people can die from coming in contact with an obese person, it's not a good comparison.

Wrong. Obesity is responsible for 20% or more of our yearly healthcare expenditures as a nation. It is massively weighing down the systems we all rely on.

It has far more adverse effect than all anti vaxxers combined.

hockeybub89 posted...

silentwing26x posted...

tc are you in favor of forcing obese people to work out?

No, why would I care what people do to themselves? How many ones of people are at risk of disease from being in the same building as a fat person?

How fascist do you think it is that food factory workers aren't allowed to shit in the food and that doctors aren't allowed to use dirty needles?

see my previous post. obesity is responsible for 20% or more of our yearly healthcare expenditures. And growing. Much more damaging than anti vaxxers.

silentwing26x posted...

Much more damaging than anti vaxxers.

Maybe right this minute but say that again when the black plague comes back.
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silentwing26x posted...

hockeybub89 posted...

silentwing26x posted...

tc are you in favor of forcing obese people to work out?

No, why would I care what people do to themselves? How many ones of people are at risk of disease from being in the same building as a fat person?

How fascist do you think it is that food factory workers aren't allowed to shit in the food and that doctors aren't allowed to use dirty needles?

see my previous post. obesity is responsible for 20% or more of our yearly healthcare expenditures. And growing. Much more damaging than anti vaxxers.

I'm not talking about some general negative effect. I am talking direct negative effects to the health of others.

What exactly is your argument? That I'm fascist, but not fascist enough and not fascist in the right way? Do you think we should force fat people to work out? You certainly seem like you do.

What makes mandatory vaccinations to protect the health of other people fascist where other health regulations aren't?

Again, I don't give a rat's ass what individiuals think or do on their own time to themselves. I give a rat's ass about if it directly hurts other people in a physical way. You know, because it's a delicate balance between individual agency and the greater good to achieve civilized society without devolving into fascism.
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If you want the government to have the authority to forcibly remove people's children, restrain them and inject them with substances on the grounds that it's good for them, should the government be able to go to a fat person's house, take them away in cuffs, bring them to a facility and strap them to a treadmill? It's good for them, right?

The fact that people are actually going along with this is horrifying. If you choose not to vaccinate their children, no public school for them and if they come down with a preventable illness, you should go to jail. But forcibly taking people's kids and shooting them up? Hell no.
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TroutPaste posted...

It's sad that this is even an issue in 2018

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r4X0r posted...

If you want the government to have the authority to forcibly remove people's children, restrain them and inject them with substances on the grounds that it's good for them, should the government be able to go to a fat person's house, take them away in cuffs, bring them to a facility and strap them to a treadmill? It's good for them, right?

markconigliaro posted...

silentwing26x posted...

tc are you in favor of forcing obese people to work out?

I know where your trying to go with this. Being obese is only dangerous to the individual, it has nothing to do with me, just like vaccines.

Except that not getting vaccines puts everyone else at risk. It's not just the individual that can die, other people can die because a kid wasn't vaccinated. Until other people can die from coming in contact with an obese person, it's not a good comparison.

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Eevee-Trainer posted...

TroutPaste posted...

It's sad that this is even an issue in 2018

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r4X0r posted...

on the grounds that it's good for them

No, fuck them. It's on the grounds that its good for everybody else.
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mandatory sv-40
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Kids can catch measles or the plague. Kids can't catch fat.
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There will be LOTS of people who will rebel if this is true

I refuse adult vaccines since I don't want them
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MabusIncarnate posted...

Kids can catch measles or the plague. Kids can't catch fat.

True, being fat is something they are born with
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knuxnole posted...

I refuse adult vaccines since I don't want them

I know needles are scary, but Im sure the doctor will give you a lollipop if you be a big kid and suffer a mild inconvenience to prevent supolio-measle-mumps from happening to the rest of the world. Don't you think that would be a mild inconvenience to everyone?
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DoomSwell posted...

knuxnole posted...

I refuse adult vaccines since I don't want them

I know needles are scary, but Im sure the doctor will give you a lollipop if you be a big kid and suffer a mild inconvenience to prevent supolio-measle-mumps from happening to the rest of the world. Don't you think that would be a mild inconvenience to everyone?

Nope, I just say no. I'm a naturally selfish person, which is one of my good qualities, so I only care about myself

After my kid vaccines that's it. I refused all adulthood vaccines cause I feel like it.
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knuxnole posted...

which is one of my good qualities

I'd hate to know what you consider a bad quality about yourself then.
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DoomSwell posted...

r4X0r posted...

on the grounds that it's good for them

No, fuck them. It's on the grounds that its good for everybody else.

This is what those cheeky replies keep ignoring. Your personal choices are only personal when you keep them to yourself. As soon as they affect other people, fuck your choices since you've made other people suffer them.
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DoomSwell posted...

knuxnole posted...

which is one of my good qualities

I'd hate to know what you consider a bad quality about yourself then.

What's wrong with being selfish? It's better than being selfless!

a bad quality is that I have to get up from my chair to use the bathroom
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hockeybub89 posted...

DoomSwell posted...

r4X0r posted...

on the grounds that it's good for them

No, fuck them. It's on the grounds that its good for everybody else.

This is what those cheeky replies keep ignoring. Your personal choices are only personal when you keep them to yourself. As soon as they affect other people, fuck your choices since you've made other people suffer them.

Then they have to MANDATE them at birth since once I turned 18, I make my own decisions and can be VERY selfish

Plus I don't care about humanity as a whole so if people get sick that might be ok.
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knuxnole posted...

Plus I don't care about humanity as a whole so if people get sick that might be ok.

And if yo'momma got big pox (cause she's so fat) then would you care?
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DoomSwell posted...

knuxnole posted...

Plus I don't care about humanity as a whole so if people get sick that might be ok.

And if yo'momma got big pox (cause she's so fat) then would you care?

She probably deserved it, can't help everyone

You wouldn't care if it was your mom. I know how you feel about her lol
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