Current Events > attn: american gun owners, if your community banned guns, would you obey?

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Kombucha
04/06/18 5:47:20 PM
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assuming your community banned firearms and requested they be surrendered, would you obey? - Results (12 votes)
yes, i am a law abiding gun owner.
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no, i would join a militia and revolt immediately
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no, i would horde my guns inside and nobody would know until it was time to strike.
83.33% (10 votes)
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no, but i wouldn't have any intention of joining a violent revolution.
16.67% (2 votes)
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https://edition.cnn.com/2018/04/05/us/deerfield-illinois-assault-weapon-ban-trnd/index.html

An Illinois town just banned assault weapons. The penalty if you keep one? Up to $1,000 a day

Objections, as you might imagine, have come in spades. On Thursday morning the Illinois State Rifle Association announced that they and the Second Amendment Foundation had jointly filed a lawsuit against the Village of Deerfield.
"They are blatantly violating state law and they are violating the Second Amendment," says Richard Pearson, executive director of the Illinois State Rifle Association. He told CNN the ISRA has been receiving waves of calls from people upset over the ban and is confident the ISRA's legal challenge will prevail.
"The penalties are just draconian," he says. "A guy -- or a lady -- who owns a large-capacity magazine or anything like that could owe thousands of dollars, and if they cross the thin, almost invisible line between municipalities, they could be considered a criminal."

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FLUFFYGERM
04/06/18 5:48:25 PM
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Deerfield is about to get absolutely destroyed in court.
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OmegaShinkai
04/06/18 5:49:33 PM
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They specifically banned the SVD lmao

If i paid a few thousand to get an actual SVD you bet I'd disobey
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sondast
04/06/18 5:51:17 PM
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According to the ordinance, which the the Village Board of Trustees unanimously approved Monday night, it is unlawful for a person "to carry, keep, bear, transport or possess an assault weapon in the Village," except if the weapon is "broken down in a non-functioning state," is "not immediately accessible to any person," or is "unloaded and enclosed in a case, firearm carrying box, shipping box, or other container by a person who has been issued a currently valid Firearm Owner's Identification Card." Law enforcement officers, current and retired, are exempted.

Oh no, now I have to lock up my rifles like the responsible gun owner I claim to be!
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FLUFFYGERM
04/06/18 5:52:52 PM
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sondast posted...
According to the ordinance, which the the Village Board of Trustees unanimously approved Monday night, it is unlawful for a person "to carry, keep, bear, transport or possess an assault weapon in the Village," except if the weapon is "broken down in a non-functioning state," is "not immediately accessible to any person," or is "unloaded and enclosed in a case, firearm carrying box, shipping box, or other container by a person who has been issued a currently valid Firearm Owner's Identification Card." Law enforcement officers, current and retired, are exempted.

Oh no, now I have to lock up my rifles like the responsible gun owner I claim to be!


And if you use them for home defense?
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Kombucha
04/06/18 5:53:18 PM
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sondast posted...
According to the ordinance, which the the Village Board of Trustees unanimously approved Monday night, it is unlawful for a person "to carry, keep, bear, transport or possess an assault weapon in the Village," except if the weapon is "broken down in a non-functioning state," is "not immediately accessible to any person," or is "unloaded and enclosed in a case, firearm carrying box, shipping box, or other container by a person who has been issued a currently valid Firearm Owner's Identification Card." Law enforcement officers, current and retired, are exempted.

Oh no, now I have to lock up my rifles like the responsible gun owner I claim to be!


so basically you can technically own the gun but never assemble it. got it.
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gnomefromnome
04/06/18 5:53:52 PM
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Im in Alaska, so itll never happen lol
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sondast
04/06/18 5:54:26 PM
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FLUFFYGERM posted...
sondast posted...
According to the ordinance, which the the Village Board of Trustees unanimously approved Monday night, it is unlawful for a person "to carry, keep, bear, transport or possess an assault weapon in the Village," except if the weapon is "broken down in a non-functioning state," is "not immediately accessible to any person," or is "unloaded and enclosed in a case, firearm carrying box, shipping box, or other container by a person who has been issued a currently valid Firearm Owner's Identification Card." Law enforcement officers, current and retired, are exempted.

Oh no, now I have to lock up my rifles like the responsible gun owner I claim to be!


And if you use them for home defense?

I use my non-automatic shotgun for that.
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Thatuser
04/06/18 5:55:00 PM
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What is an "assault weapon"? Any gun can be defined as an assault weapon, as you can assault somebody with them. If they're referencing military weaponry, the public already does not have access to select fire weapons, unless illegally modified. So, again, what is an assault weapon exactly?
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sondast
04/06/18 5:56:13 PM
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Kombucha posted...
sondast posted...
According to the ordinance, which the the Village Board of Trustees unanimously approved Monday night, it is unlawful for a person "to carry, keep, bear, transport or possess an assault weapon in the Village," except if the weapon is "broken down in a non-functioning state," is "not immediately accessible to any person," or is "unloaded and enclosed in a case, firearm carrying box, shipping box, or other container by a person who has been issued a currently valid Firearm Owner's Identification Card." Law enforcement officers, current and retired, are exempted.

Oh no, now I have to lock up my rifles like the responsible gun owner I claim to be!


so basically you can technically own the gun but never assemble it. got it.

So just ignore that part that says you can keep it assembled in a case. Got it.
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FLUFFYGERM
04/06/18 5:56:59 PM
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sondast posted...
FLUFFYGERM posted...
sondast posted...
According to the ordinance, which the the Village Board of Trustees unanimously approved Monday night, it is unlawful for a person "to carry, keep, bear, transport or possess an assault weapon in the Village," except if the weapon is "broken down in a non-functioning state," is "not immediately accessible to any person," or is "unloaded and enclosed in a case, firearm carrying box, shipping box, or other container by a person who has been issued a currently valid Firearm Owner's Identification Card." Law enforcement officers, current and retired, are exempted.

Oh no, now I have to lock up my rifles like the responsible gun owner I claim to be!


And if you use them for home defense?

I use my non-automatic shotgun for that.


So because you use your shotgun for that, other people shouldn't be allowed to use their rifles?
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Kombucha
04/06/18 5:57:32 PM
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sondast posted...
Kombucha posted...
sondast posted...
According to the ordinance, which the the Village Board of Trustees unanimously approved Monday night, it is unlawful for a person "to carry, keep, bear, transport or possess an assault weapon in the Village," except if the weapon is "broken down in a non-functioning state," is "not immediately accessible to any person," or is "unloaded and enclosed in a case, firearm carrying box, shipping box, or other container by a person who has been issued a currently valid Firearm Owner's Identification Card." Law enforcement officers, current and retired, are exempted.

Oh no, now I have to lock up my rifles like the responsible gun owner I claim to be!


so basically you can technically own the gun but never assemble it. got it.

So just ignore that part that says you can keep it assembled in a case. Got it.


so if you take it out of the case it has to be disassembled immediately?

rofl
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Tropicalwood
04/06/18 5:58:17 PM
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sondast posted...
According to the ordinance, which the the Village Board of Trustees unanimously approved Monday night, it is unlawful for a person "to carry, keep, bear, transport or possess an assault weapon in the Village," except if the weapon is "broken down in a non-functioning state," is "not immediately accessible to any person," or is "unloaded and enclosed in a case, firearm carrying box, shipping box, or other container by a person who has been issued a currently valid Firearm Owner's Identification Card." Law enforcement officers, current and retired, are exempted.

Oh no, now I have to lock up my rifles like the responsible gun owner I claim to be!

That was declared unconstitutional in Heller
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sondast
04/06/18 6:02:50 PM
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FLUFFYGERM posted...
sondast posted...
FLUFFYGERM posted...
sondast posted...
According to the ordinance, which the the Village Board of Trustees unanimously approved Monday night, it is unlawful for a person "to carry, keep, bear, transport or possess an assault weapon in the Village," except if the weapon is "broken down in a non-functioning state," is "not immediately accessible to any person," or is "unloaded and enclosed in a case, firearm carrying box, shipping box, or other container by a person who has been issued a currently valid Firearm Owner's Identification Card." Law enforcement officers, current and retired, are exempted.

Oh no, now I have to lock up my rifles like the responsible gun owner I claim to be!


And if you use them for home defense?

I use my non-automatic shotgun for that.


So because you use your shotgun for that, other people shouldn't be allowed to use their rifles?

Anyone that owns an AR15 would have many other options for home defense.
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sondast
04/06/18 6:05:40 PM
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Kombucha posted...
sondast posted...
Kombucha posted...
sondast posted...
According to the ordinance, which the the Village Board of Trustees unanimously approved Monday night, it is unlawful for a person "to carry, keep, bear, transport or possess an assault weapon in the Village," except if the weapon is "broken down in a non-functioning state," is "not immediately accessible to any person," or is "unloaded and enclosed in a case, firearm carrying box, shipping box, or other container by a person who has been issued a currently valid Firearm Owner's Identification Card." Law enforcement officers, current and retired, are exempted.

Oh no, now I have to lock up my rifles like the responsible gun owner I claim to be!


so basically you can technically own the gun but never assemble it. got it.

So just ignore that part that says you can keep it assembled in a case. Got it.


so if you take it out of the case it has to be disassembled immediately?

rofl

It sounds like if the owner wants to keep put it somewhere in the house unattended, then yeah they should disassemble it right away.
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Thatuser
04/06/18 6:05:45 PM
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sondast posted...
Anyone that owns an AR15 would have many other options for home defense.

What makes you sure of that? Perhaps they sought out and purchased one gun for a specific purpose.
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FLUFFYGERM
04/06/18 6:06:01 PM
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sondast posted...
FLUFFYGERM posted...
sondast posted...
FLUFFYGERM posted...
sondast posted...
According to the ordinance, which the the Village Board of Trustees unanimously approved Monday night, it is unlawful for a person "to carry, keep, bear, transport or possess an assault weapon in the Village," except if the weapon is "broken down in a non-functioning state," is "not immediately accessible to any person," or is "unloaded and enclosed in a case, firearm carrying box, shipping box, or other container by a person who has been issued a currently valid Firearm Owner's Identification Card." Law enforcement officers, current and retired, are exempted.

Oh no, now I have to lock up my rifles like the responsible gun owner I claim to be!


And if you use them for home defense?

I use my non-automatic shotgun for that.


So because you use your shotgun for that, other people shouldn't be allowed to use their rifles?

Anyone that owns an AR15 would have many other options for home defense.


Like a different semi automatic or a different configuration of AR-15.
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Kombucha
04/06/18 6:06:57 PM
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sondast posted...
Kombucha posted...
sondast posted...
Kombucha posted...
sondast posted...
According to the ordinance, which the the Village Board of Trustees unanimously approved Monday night, it is unlawful for a person "to carry, keep, bear, transport or possess an assault weapon in the Village," except if the weapon is "broken down in a non-functioning state," is "not immediately accessible to any person," or is "unloaded and enclosed in a case, firearm carrying box, shipping box, or other container by a person who has been issued a currently valid Firearm Owner's Identification Card." Law enforcement officers, current and retired, are exempted.

Oh no, now I have to lock up my rifles like the responsible gun owner I claim to be!


so basically you can technically own the gun but never assemble it. got it.

So just ignore that part that says you can keep it assembled in a case. Got it.


so if you take it out of the case it has to be disassembled immediately?

rofl

It sounds like if the owner wants to keep put it somewhere in the house unattended, then yeah they should disassemble it right away.


they should be able to carry it around assembled in full public view, as the constitution permits.
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KingCrabCake
04/06/18 6:07:04 PM
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No. I would move and file a lawsuit
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Buzz Killjoy
04/06/18 6:08:31 PM
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I would cosmoline and vacuum seal my non-compliant firearms and bury them.

I don't know yet exactly what form of gun control I'm willing to concede and accept, but it isn't banning things that were sold legally in the past, that's for sure.

Edit: I missed the word "community" in the topic title. If this was just a local or municipal statute, I would relocate.
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scorpion41
04/06/18 6:09:25 PM
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Whos going to enforce this? Unless they plan on violating the 4th amendment no one will know if a person is following the law. And the first time they try to enforce it they will get destroyed in court. Deerfield lost their damn minds.
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Kombucha
04/06/18 10:36:31 PM
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