D Kim Jong Un must step down and turn himself in to bring peace to Korea

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hockeybub89 04/27/18 11:02:36 PM #1:	Concentration camps and starvation are not very peaceful. He's not an evil dictator because countries refuse to be friends with him and never sent him mean tweets. His existence as leader of North Korea is incompatible with peace and he definitely does not deserve to be spoken to as an equal. Not even Donald Trump should debase himself by entertaining that sack of shit's desires. --- http://card.psnprofiles.com/1/NIR_Hockey.png http://www.last.fm/user/hockeybub89/ <cite>hockeybub89 posted [p:900436153] in C/D Kim Jo... [t:76559312]...</cite> <quote>Concentration camps and starvation are not very peaceful. He's not an evil dictator because countries refuse to be friends with him and never sent him mean tweets. His existence as leader of North Korea is incompatible with peace and he definitely does not deserve to be spoken to as an equal. Not even Donald Trump should debase himself by entertaining that sack of shit's desires.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
CiIantro 04/27/18 11:02:59 PM #2:	D. Educate yourself: http://www.youngpioneertours.com/unified-korea-look-like-2/ <cite>CiIantro posted [p:900436178] in C/D Kim Jo... [t:76559312]...</cite> <quote>D. Educate yourself: http://www.youngpioneertours.com/unified-korea-look-like-2/</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
hockeybub89 04/28/18 8:53:25 AM #3:	CiIantro posted... D. Educate yourself: http://www.youngpioneertours.com/unified-korea-look-like-2/ You can't have peace with a monster, at least not without implicitly supporting the monster. Trump and his supporters want to lock Hillary Clinton up, but shake hands with pure evil? We can't trust Kim and shouldn't trust him. There is no absolution for what he has done. We can't achieve that unified Korea with Kim in power in the North and he certainly doesn't deserve to be part of it. --- http://card.psnprofiles.com/1/NIR_Hockey.png http://www.last.fm/user/hockeybub89/ <cite>hockeybub89 posted [p:900451406] in C/D Kim Jo... [t:76559312]...</cite> <quote><cite>CiIantro posted...</cite> <quote>D. Educate yourself: http://www.youngpioneertours.com/unified-korea-look-like-2/</quote> You can't have peace with a monster, at least not without implicitly supporting the monster. Trump and his supporters want to lock Hillary Clinton up, but shake hands with pure evil? We can't trust Kim and shouldn't trust him. There is no absolution for what he has done. We can't achieve that unified Korea with Kim in power in the North and he certainly doesn't deserve to be part of it.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Caution999 04/28/18 8:55:22 AM #4:	And Kim Jong Un is more willing to work with Trump than the Democrats are --- "Impossible is just a word to let people feel good about themselves when they quit." - Vyse, Skies of Arcadia <cite>Caution999 posted [p:900451456] in C/D Kim Jo... [t:76559312]...</cite> <quote>And Kim Jong Un is more willing to work with Trump than the Democrats are</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
UnfairRepresent 04/28/18 8:56:41 AM #5:	hockeybub89 posted... You can't have peace with a monster Yeah about that... --- ^ Hey now that's completely unfair. https://imgtc.com/i/14JHfrt.jpg <cite>UnfairRepresent posted [p:900451481] in C/D Kim Jo... [t:76559312]...</cite> <quote><cite>hockeybub89 posted...</cite> <quote> You can't have peace with a monster</quote> Yeah about that...</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
frozenshock 04/28/18 8:57:24 AM #6:	I just don't see how this so-called peace would work. North Korea functions 100% on propaganda. They will never allow people to see what their country is truly like. It's not like people will just be able to drive north from Seoul and go grocery shopping in NK --- I don't hate people, people hate me. <cite>frozenshock posted [p:900451495] in C/D Kim Jo... [t:76559312]...</cite> <quote>I just don't see how this so-called peace would work. North Korea functions 100% on propaganda. They will never allow people to see what their country is truly like. It's not like people will just be able to drive north from Seoul and go grocery shopping in NK</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
UnfairRepresent 04/28/18 8:58:55 AM #7:	frozenshock posted... They will never allow people to see what their country is truly like. Dude everyone knows. Have you heard the accounts from everyone who has escaped North Korea and what little documentary footage exists inside it? The people of North Korea know it's a shitshow, they just have to go along with it or else they will be killed and inprisoned. --- ^ Hey now that's completely unfair. https://imgtc.com/i/14JHfrt.jpg <cite>UnfairRepresent posted [p:900451532] in C/D Kim Jo... [t:76559312]...</cite> <quote><cite>frozenshock posted...</cite> <quote>They will never allow people to see what their country is truly like. </quote> Dude everyone knows. Have you heard the accounts from everyone who has escaped North Korea and what little documentary footage exists inside it? The people of North Korea know it's a shitshow, they just have to go along with it or else they will be killed and inprisoned.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
hockeybub89 04/28/18 9:00:10 AM #8:	UnfairRepresent posted... hockeybub89 posted... You can't have peace with a monster Yeah about that... I was unaware that talks were complete. I was unaware of a free North Korea. --- http://card.psnprofiles.com/1/NIR_Hockey.png http://www.last.fm/user/hockeybub89/ <cite>hockeybub89 posted [p:900451562] in C/D Kim Jo... [t:76559312]...</cite> <quote><cite>UnfairRepresent posted...</cite> <quote><cite>hockeybub89 posted...</cite> <quote> You can't have peace with a monster</quote> Yeah about that...</quote> I was unaware that talks were complete. I was unaware of a free North Korea.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
YOUHAVENOHOPE 04/28/18 9:00:50 AM #9:	CiIantro posted... D. Educate yourself: http://www.youngpioneertours.com/unified-korea-look-like-2/ >links to a DPRK-sponsored tourism site --- http://i.imgur.com/kpXTakw.gif http://i.imgur.com/Pto3yPa.jpg http://media.giphy.com/media/NBVBnHv8bV13q/giphy.gif <cite>YOUHAVENOHOPE posted [p:900451575] in C/D Kim Jo... [t:76559312]...</cite> <quote><cite>CiIantro posted...</cite> <quote>D. Educate yourself: http://www.youngpioneertours.com/unified-korea-look-like-2/</quote> >links to a DPRK-sponsored tourism site</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
hockeybub89 04/28/18 9:01:35 AM #10:	UnfairRepresent posted... frozenshock posted... They will never allow people to see what their country is truly like. Dude everyone knows. Have you heard the accounts from everyone who has escaped North Korea and what little documentary footage exists inside it? The people of North Korea know it's a shitshow, they just have to go along with it or else they will be killed and inprisoned. And they are stuck with Kim unless he is removed and brought to justice --- http://card.psnprofiles.com/1/NIR_Hockey.png http://www.last.fm/user/hockeybub89/ <cite>hockeybub89 posted [p:900451598] in C/D Kim Jo... [t:76559312]...</cite> <quote><cite>UnfairRepresent posted...</cite> <quote><cite>frozenshock posted...</cite> <quote>They will never allow people to see what their country is truly like. </quote> Dude everyone knows. Have you heard the accounts from everyone who has escaped North Korea and what little documentary footage exists inside it? The people of North Korea know it's a shitshow, they just have to go along with it or else they will be killed and inprisoned.</quote> And they are stuck with Kim unless he is removed and brought to justice</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
frozenshock 04/28/18 9:02:36 AM #11:	Other countries don't give a shit about NK they just don't want nukes pointed at them It really doesn't seem like anything will ever be done to actually improve the lives of north koreans --- I don't hate people, people hate me. <cite>frozenshock posted [p:900451622] in C/D Kim Jo... [t:76559312]...</cite> <quote>Other countries don't give a shit about NK they just don't want nukes pointed at them It really doesn't seem like anything will ever be done to actually improve the lives of north koreans</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
UncleBourbon33 04/28/18 9:03:06 AM #12:	Honestly yeah I agree with TC. Imagine if we continued to let Nazi Germany exist. --- "Wanting something doesn't make it a human right." https://i.imgur.com/aqrImUY.gif <cite>UncleBourbon33 posted [p:900451637] in C/D Kim Jo... [t:76559312]...</cite> <quote>Honestly yeah I agree with TC. Imagine if we continued to let Nazi Germany exist.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
UnfairRepresent 04/28/18 9:05:33 AM #13:	hockeybub89 posted... UnfairRepresent posted... hockeybub89 posted... You can't have peace with a monster Yeah about that... I was unaware that talks were complete. I was unaware of a free North Korea. No I mean historically complete assholes are better at being diplomats that bring peace than kind pushovers. Jimmy Carter is a great man but a lousy president. Neville Chamberlain brought on WW2 due to his own idealistic incompetence. The Russian peace loving communists in WW1 turned Russia from being a stone's throw to knocking Austro-Hungary out of the war into being forced to surrendered to Germany and give up most of their resources and a third of their land. On some level you need to be an asshole with no conscience to succeed at international politics. If you're worried about hurting feelings and stepping on people then YOU'RE going to get stepped on. I'd be surprised if there was any successful peace negoitation that wasn't arranged and enforced by monsters. --- ^ Hey now that's completely unfair. https://imgtc.com/i/14JHfrt.jpg <cite>UnfairRepresent posted [p:900451699] in C/D Kim Jo... [t:76559312]...</cite> <quote><cite>hockeybub89 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>UnfairRepresent posted...</cite> <quote><cite>hockeybub89 posted...</cite> <quote> You can't have peace with a monster</quote> Yeah about that...</quote> I was unaware that talks were complete. I was unaware of a free North Korea.</quote> No I mean historically complete assholes are better at being diplomats that bring peace than kind pushovers. Jimmy Carter is a great man but a lousy president. Neville Chamberlain brought on WW2 due to his own idealistic incompetence. The Russian peace loving communists in WW1 turned Russia from being a stone's throw to knocking Austro-Hungary out of the war into being forced to surrendered to Germany and give up most of their resources and a third of their land. On some level you need to be an asshole with no conscience to succeed at international politics. If you're worried about hurting feelings and stepping on people then YOU'RE going to get stepped on. I'd be surprised if there was any successful peace negoitation that wasn't arranged and enforced by monsters.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
frozenshock 04/28/18 9:23:37 AM #14:	18 years ago: --- I don't hate people, people hate me. <cite>frozenshock posted [p:900452159] in C/D Kim Jo... [t:76559312]...</cite> <quote>18 years ago: </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
foreveraIone 04/28/18 9:27:08 AM #15:	anyone that thinks Trump is going to solve this is delusional --- https://i.imgur.com/aVTScxQ.jpg Always. Edgy. <cite>foreveraIone posted [p:900452258] in C/D Kim Jo... [t:76559312]...</cite> <quote>anyone that thinks Trump is going to solve this is delusional</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
hockeybub89 04/28/18 7:04:30 PM #16:	UnfairRepresent posted... No I mean historically complete assholes are better at being diplomats that bring peace than kind pushovers. But if you have to accept the monsters to bring peace, is it worth it? Also, that doesn't bring peace to the people in those countries run by monsters. It just gets the monsters off other countries' backs. It's isolationist world peace for lack of a better term. --- http://card.psnprofiles.com/1/NIR_Hockey.png http://www.last.fm/user/hockeybub89/ <cite>hockeybub89 posted [p:900477117] in C/D Kim Jo... [t:76559312]...</cite> <quote><cite>UnfairRepresent posted...</cite> <quote>No I mean historically complete assholes are better at being diplomats that bring peace than kind pushovers. </quote> But if you have to accept the monsters to bring peace, is it worth it? Also, that doesn't bring peace to the people in those countries run by monsters. It just gets the monsters off other countries' backs. It's isolationist world peace for lack of a better term.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ElatedVenusaur 04/28/18 7:07:31 PM #17:	The only peaceful path to peace(in the current situation) necessarily involves letting Kim Jong Un and the North Korean regime get off scot-free for their numerous crimes. Holding them accountable requires defeating them, and that requires a war that would result in untold casualties. It is deeply upsetting that the Kim regime could never be brought to justice, but it's better than a war would be. <cite>ElatedVenusaur posted [p:900477264] in C/D Kim Jo... [t:76559312]...</cite> <quote>The only peaceful path to peace(in the current situation) necessarily involves letting Kim Jong Un and the North Korean regime get off scot-free for their numerous crimes. Holding them accountable requires defeating them, and that requires a war that would result in untold casualties. It is deeply upsetting that the Kim regime could never be brought to justice, but it's better than a war would be.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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