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apolloooo
04/30/18 7:41:24 AM
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I honestly dont understand. Yeah, human are social creatures, we evolve to depend on each other at least to some degree. But do we have to be involved with other people so personally and intimately? How is it even work?

Why is it seen a social intimate relationship is important? How do you even do it?

I have said multiple times that i might be some degree sociopathic. Or at least have some degree of antisocial personality disorder.

For me human relationship peaks at social co-operation. Something that enable each other to benefit from each other actions, from demand of something the other person can do that the other party cannot.

That much i can do, and if it needed casual and personal social ineraction, for me it is quite easy just to put on a mask and pretend. In the end, i dont think any of my relationship are genuine, whatever genuine is. Even with my parents. I care about them but really it is more like a feeling of indebtedness than genuine connection. Plus they are still a good safety net if i ever fell into financial or health related disaster.

I cant really, ever wrap my head around loving so unconditionally that someone opens themself and blend into others. Thoughts, hearts, and all.

It might be depression, or something like that, but i dont feel most of the symptons checks out with me.

I am genuinely satisfied and majority of the happy the way i am, for the most part content with the life i lead, and it doesnt really affect my performance much and still stay relatively high functioning so i never bother to visit some professional mental help or anything.

The point is some views personal and intimate social activities and relationships are the holy grail of humanity, yet i feel like i beg to differ because i am actually feel fine the way i am, and there are cases of people who choose isolation and live as hermit, and content and lead a fulfilling life at the same.

A total social blackout is genuinely bad, as has been studied in solitary confinement and other unfortunate cases like the feral child, but a super deep, super intimate relationship isnt necessary at all.

Im fact it weirds me out how people want to tangle themselves with other to the point one will figuratively (or literally) drown if the other do.
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Irony
04/30/18 7:42:17 AM
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That's a really long post
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pinky0926
04/30/18 7:44:05 AM
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I feel like you just answered your topic in the first sentence, tbh.

Solitary people are rarely happy and fulfilled people. Now maybe it's not the same for everybody, but I find even just spending an hour among friends cures most of my negative thoughts.
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apolloooo
04/30/18 7:48:51 AM
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Irony posted...
That's a really long post

Because i am asking about a rather complex issue of what is usually taken as a fact and norms in life actually is a sham and needs scientific re-evaluation and conditioning into the society.

It a sense it fan hurt people with Conditions similar to me, with less resolve and contendness feel like they are broken, and actually just plunge them into real despair and depression instead of accepting who they are and why they arent like other people.

I have been trough this and it was the worst thing ever happened to me. Then, it feel like i have absolutely no chance of being happy in life, until i just realizer you can just fuck it all, fuck everyone and just be yourself, be comfortable in your skin and live the way you want and can.
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ArchiePeck
04/30/18 7:51:42 AM
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Unless you're actually asexual, you'll end up pretty warped over time without a sex life - using increasingly bizarre or extreme porn to get your kicks.
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apolloooo
04/30/18 7:57:34 AM
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pinky0926 posted...
I feel like you just answered your topic in the first sentence, tbh.

Solitary people are rarely happy and fulfilled people. Now maybe it's not the same for everybody, but I find even just spending an hour among friends cures most of my negative thoughts.

Read it till the end. Social interaction is necessary. The problem is its depth and generally how it is perceived you need to go trough life.

Okay, so for example, a working environment. Okay i need not to be an asshole so are they to ensue proper and comfortable work condition, so stuff gets done, the company profit and we all get paid.

That is social cooperation. The basic formula to our great civilization. If one gear got stuck, the output decrease, thus the result is less satisfactory for everyone. With that, we can conclude that comfortable work environment is needed and at least try not to be an asshole if you can, and work good eoth other to ensure maximum output.

But why some people expect we have to be like soulmates, suddenly expect me to spend time with them outside of work hour or pour hearts contents into each other like some new lovers.

It is said the deeper and more relationship you have the happier you are.

I think it is wrong. It apply to some people, majority even, but not all people. It really just need as deep as it needed for gears of civilization to turn and people tend to overestimate its demand and glorify it to the degree that it sickens me.
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ClockworkHare
04/30/18 7:58:10 AM
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is social isolation really that bad?

Depends on the person.

Some people have the mental constitution to survive fine without daily means of socialization/pop media intake. They make great candidates for outpost careers away from civilization and jobs that are locally within a city yet boxed in by architecture. To an extent, some very important means of production and services rely on this uncommon type of people. They're actually a good thing to have contributing to society as far as finding someone to do some very unpopular jobs that benefit through economy.

To be frank, modern society kind of takes these people for granted despite the important economic contributions because their places of work are hidden away from most eyes and they rarely get credited for anything. Fortunately most of the people who step forward to accept these positions typically don't care about the credit.

The point is living day to day in a socially isolated life does not automatically have negative results on everyone. Most, yes. Everyone, no. Some people are just that mentally tough and naturals at isolated function.
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apolloooo
04/30/18 8:03:23 AM
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ArchiePeck posted...
Unless you're actually asexual, you'll end up pretty warped over time without a sex life - using increasingly bizarre or extreme porn to get your kicks.

I do have sexual urge, but not romantic urge. It is a tricky thing, because in my ideal world,sex would be just like work.

I need a woman to release the tension, and i she needs a man, we agreed and consent, do it and be done with it. No need for commitment, long term personal relationship or whatever love is.

I still cannot, in any way wrap my head around love and commitment, especially unconditional one. Even if the need for a child to arise to ensure a species's survival, i probably prefer it to be done like work. No attachment needed outside of necessity.
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apolloooo
04/30/18 8:14:50 AM
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ClockworkHare posted...

The point is living day to day in a socially isolated life does not automatically have negative results on everyone. Most, yes. Everyone, no. Some people are just that mentally tough and naturals at isolated function.

Agree. I just honestly think it is bad to demand these specific people to live like others. There are few people that have this natural resilience to isolation, but portrayal of popular media and the majority of the norm says you need the thing you dont to be happy.

People like me tends to be alone in our thoughts, and some people might not see the conclusion that other high functioning and content people have, in the end it just trap them in despair.

It is like advertising, but can be alot insidious in nature.

If you tell blind people they need to see to experience the beauty of the world, it will likely end in suicide.

I dunno about other people, or the popular portrayal of sociopaths are more accurate to the reality, but for myself, i want to be happy in life, and just want people to realize that my criteria for happiness is just different. I just want to be left alone and there is nothing wrong with that. I want to be alone because i like to be alone, and not because i am sad, desperate fuck that dont have friends.

No one wants to suffer really, only there are different ways to achieve happiness and more people should realize it.
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apolloooo
04/30/18 8:50:35 AM
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and really, the current biggest drawback in my life currently is the impulses, and sometimes i am powerless to avoid it, but in the end it is a weakness that with enough willpower, you can surpress it most of the time.
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