Current Events > EPA: We're not going to inspect existing asbestos anymore.

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http://www.newsweek.com/pruitt-trump-asbestos-chemicals-trump-962703

You can safely ignore the "mob conspiracy" part of the article if you wish.

The Environmental Protection Agency will not consider the health risks and impacts of asbestos already in the environment when evaluating the dangers associated with the chemical compound, Scott Pruitt, the agency's head, quietly announced last week. That means asbestos used in tiles, piping and adhesives throughout homes and businesses in the United States will remain largely unchecked and unaccounted for. Nearly 15,000 Americans die each year from asbestos-related diseases, but President Donald Trump has called the substance "100 percent safe, once applied."

As a safety consultant, well, I'd be appalled, but frankly I'm well past appalled with this EPA at this point.
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The worst thing you can do to asbestos is disturb it.

Beryllium Oxide is going to be the next big panic anyway.

"But how is Trump making your lives worse?!?!"

I guess mesothelioma victims are crisis actors, apparently.
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gotta appeal to those asbestos miners
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Questionmarktarius posted...

The worst thing you can do to asbestos is disturb it.

Beryllium Oxide is going to be the next big panic anyway.

I can give you the big laundry list of substances I inspect routinely, asbestos included. BeO is just one more brick in the wall.

And the reason I routinely inspect asbestos in places I work is to ensure it's not being disturbed.
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There is no good reason to do this
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#Winning
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CyricZ posted...

You can safely ignore the "mob conspiracy" part of the article if you wish.

Why would we ignore that? It's further insight into Donnies dementia
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HylianFox posted...

gotta appeal to those asbestos miners

Most of that shit comes/came from Canada anyways, they have a fucking town named after it.

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Anarchy_Juiblex posted...

HylianFox posted...

gotta appeal to those asbestos miners

Most of that shit comes/came from Canada anyways, they have a fucking town named after it.

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oh... my... GOD...

TRUMP WAS RIGHT! CANADA *IS* A THREAT TO AMERICA!!!!!
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SageHarpuia posted...

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There is no good reason to do this

"Lib tears" is good enough for them.
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SageHarpuia posted...

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There is no good reason to do this

https://imgur.com/fJXeXGs
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Anarchy_Juiblex posted...

SageHarpuia posted...

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There is no good reason to do this

"Lib tears" is good enough for them.

*dying of cancer*
"Take THAT, liberals!"
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The fox controls the hen house.
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Diseases are liberal propaganda.
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TheUsualSuspect posted...

*dying of cancer*
"Take THAT, liberals!"

Can't use the dog in a burning house meme because asbestos is used as a flame retardant
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I think we've officially hit peak 1950's nostalgia.
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HylianFox posted...

TheUsualSuspect posted...

*dying of cancer*
"Take THAT, liberals!"

Can't use the dog in a burning house meme because asbestos is used as a flame retardant

Yeah, that's why I went with cancer
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Asbestos is the GOAT building material, if it's left undisturbed.

Of course, once disturbed and airborne, that's the risk.

Black mould is potentially more dangerous than asbestos.

I work in building insurance and deal with asbestos and mould a lot.
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Anarchy_Juiblex posted...

SageHarpuia posted...

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There is no good reason to do this

"Lib tears" is good enough for them.

At this point liberal haters should be sick of this crap. It's not funny anymore.
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The overreaction about asbestos and lead paint are practically comical.
In both cases if it's there. Old tile, old insulation, under 4 layers of paint, etc. Leave it there. It's literally not any sort of threat to anyone. Leave it be unless you're going to do remodeling or tearing the house down. But people act like oh no, it just being there is a threat to you family's lives. You have to spend thousands having it removed asap while everyone doing so dresses like they're dealing with a nuclear reactor. And people buy into it.
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EternalDivide posted...

The overreaction about asbestos and lead paint are practically comical.
In both cases if it's there. Old tile, old insulation, under 4 layers of paint, etc. Leave it there. It's literally not any sort of threat to anyone. Leave it be unless you're going to do remodeling or tearing the house down. But people act like oh no, it just being there is a threat to you family's lives. You have to spend thousands having it removed asap while everyone doing so dresses like they're dealing with a nuclear reactor. And people buy into it.

This.

If you have an asbestos roof, or ceiling, and it's undisturbed and just sitting there. LEAVE IT ALONE.

If your kid puts a hole in it, then yeah get it removed.
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DavidWong posted...

If your kid puts a hole in it, then yeah get it removed.

You'll probably have to get a new kid, too
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HylianFox posted...

DavidWong posted...

If your kid puts a hole in it, then yeah get it removed.

You'll probably have to get a new kid, too

Not for 40 years or so, though.
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EternalDivide posted...

DavidWong posted...

It's still a hazardous material. It needs to be monitored to make sure it's not being disturbed. That's what inspections are for. If the EPA says they're not going to bother with that, then what's to motivate anyone else?
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Yeah just leave this cancer shit in your walls, it's only a problem if something moves it. That's never going to happen right?

Are the dangers overblown? Yes, of literally everything is. So. . . . ? We're not talking an individual choice here, this is govt. policy.
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Wow. I can't believe the prior administrations have been drastically overstating the dangers of asbestos. Nice to see that the EPA is doing its job
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TheRealDill2000 posted...

Wow. I can't believe the prior administrations have been drastically overstating the dangers of asbestos. Nice to see that the EPA is doing its job

Lol.
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CyricZ posted...

It needs to be monitored to make sure it's not being disturbed. That's what inspections are for.

Conservatism is nothing if not "ignore problems and hope they'll just go away"
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creativerealms posted...

TheRealDill2000 posted...

Wow. I can't believe the prior administrations have been drastically overstating the dangers of asbestos. Nice to see that the EPA is doing its job

Lol.

There's nothing funny about how our tax dollars have been wasted all these years.
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I mean, this is honestly 90% my job. Look at things that aren't broken yet and make sure they won't break in the future. The other 10% is reacting to stuff that does break.
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TheRealDill2000 posted...

creativerealms posted...

TheRealDill2000 posted...

Wow. I can't believe the prior administrations have been drastically overstating the dangers of asbestos. Nice to see that the EPA is doing its job

Lol.

There's nothing funny about how our tax dollars have been wasted all these years.

You won't be saying that when lives that could have been protected are lost.

And it's not like that is reducing taxes they are just moving them, probably to our over bloated military.
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CyricZ posted...

And the reason I routinely inspect asbestos in places I work is to ensure it's not being disturbed.

You can do that with disturbing it yourself?

Scott Pruitt, the agency's head, quietly announced last week

Gee, I wonder why...
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creativerealms posted...

You won't be saying that when lives that could have been protected are lost.

Why would any lives be lost to a 100% safe product?
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TheRealDill2000 posted...

Why would any lives be lost to a 100% safe product?

This is the trial of the safety professional. Dealing with people who see a situation that's not harming them right now and reaching the conclusion that under no circumstances will it ever be harmful.
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Ya'll know TheRealDill is one of those things we can't call people anymore, right
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TheRealDill is a cover blown troll, stop responding to him.
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pegusus123456 posted...

Ya'll know TheRealDill is one of those things we can't call people anymore, right

There's nothing wrong with calling me a beloved member of the community.
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TheTrumpShill2000
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DarkChozoGhost posted...

TheRealDill is a cover blown troll, stop responding to him.

First, I'm not a troll. Second, why would you use the phrase "cover blown"?
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The people dying from mesothelioma are almost exclusively old guys who got the asbestos in their systems before the risks were known. The fatality rates for people < 45 years old is statistically insignificant. This is a non issue at this point.
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Nowhere I go is affected by this.
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Fuparulez posted...

The people dying from mesothelioma are almost exclusively old guys who got the asbestos in their systems before the risks were known. The fatality rates for people < 45 years old is statistically insignificant. This is a non issue at this point.

I disagree. Saying "there's no great need to remove asbestos right now" is valid. It's expensive, and as was said, if you're not disturbing it, much of the current asbestos still in use remains benign.

BUT... you still have to keep an eye on it. You don't get to not check on a known risk simply because it's not killing people the same way it used to be.

And my point is this "quiet" missive from the EPA, rather than being at the forefront of an announcement that they've got data proving the danger has passed, leaves me a little skeptical the actual science on this was done.
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