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voldothegr8
09/12/18 10:45:24 AM
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https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/heat-vision/henry-cavill-as-superman-warner-bros-dc-universe-shake-up-1142306

The DC cinematic universe appears to be losing its Man of Steel.

Henry Cavill, who has played Superman in three films, is parting ways with Warner Bros., sources tell The Hollywood Reporter. Though neither side is confirming, the British actor, who first donned the blue suit for 2013's Man of Steel, and then starred in 2016's Batman v. Superman and last year's Justice League, is said to be hanging up the red cape.

Warners had been trying to enlist Cavill, who most recently co-starred in Mission: Impossible Fallout, for a Superman cameo in Shazam!, which stars Zachary Levi and will bow April 5. But contract talks between Cavill's WME reps and Warners broke down, and the door is now closing on other potential Superman appearances.

That's because the studio has shifted its focus to a Supergirl movie, which will be an origin story featuring a teen superheroine. This effectively removes an actor of Cavill's age from the storyline's equation given that Superman, aka Kal-El, would be an infant, according to DC lore.

Furthermore, Warners isn't likely to make a solo Superman film for at least several years, according to another source. "Superman is like James Bond, and after a certain run you have to look at new actors," says a studio source. As such, Cavill will join Ben Affleck, who isn't expected to reprise his role for director Matt Reeves' forthcoming Batman stand-alone film, as a hero on the way out.

A Warners source says the Shazam! deal fell apart because of scheduling conflicts. And that is backed up by the fact that Cavill recently signed on to star in the Netflix series The Witcher. However, another source says that the Witcher commitment came after the Warners impasse, suggesting a change in Warners' strategy.

"There's a recognition that some parts of the previous movies didn't work," says the studio insider. Another source says Warners is trying to hit a "reset" button with the DC universe, steering its ship slowly into another direction.

While Affleck and Cavill are segueing out, others who were seen together onscreen in Justice League are carrying forward. Gal Gadot is returning for Wonder Woman 1984, to hit theaters in November 2019. Jason Momoa headlines a solo Aquaman movie this December. And Ezra Miller remains on board to star in a Flash movie, which is due to shoot in early 2019.

And the shitshow that is the DCEU marches on
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Zikten
09/12/18 10:48:27 AM
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wait....they think Superman would be an infant? no. he landed first. Kara is older than Kal, but he landed first because her ship got stuck in a time vortex so by the time she landed he had grown up. he is not supposed to be an infant.
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Srk700
09/12/18 10:54:51 AM
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At this rate DCEU isn't going to catch up to phase 1 MCU, let alone current Marvel.
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DiScOrD tHe LuNaTiC
09/12/18 10:57:22 AM
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Zikten posted...
wait....they think Superman would be an infant? no. he landed first. Kara is older than Kal, but he landed first because her ship got stuck in a time vortex so by the time she landed he had grown up. he is not supposed to be an infant.

By this point, are you really surprised that they don't understand this?
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Zikten
09/12/18 10:59:15 AM
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DiScOrD tHe LuNaTiC posted...
Zikten posted...
wait....they think Superman would be an infant? no. he landed first. Kara is older than Kal, but he landed first because her ship got stuck in a time vortex so by the time she landed he had grown up. he is not supposed to be an infant.

By this point, are you really surprised that they don't understand this?

I suppose I should have learned by now. apparently the CW does more research than the writers for hollywood blockbusters
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VipaGTS
09/12/18 10:59:37 AM
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they're already rebooting superman?
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prince_leo
09/12/18 10:59:42 AM
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the casting has never really been the issue with the DC movies
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CyricZ
09/12/18 10:59:49 AM
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Zikten posted...
her ship got stuck in a time vortex

I mean, you're not wrong, but in a vacuum this argument does seem kinda silly. :-P
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Mr_Biscuit
09/12/18 11:01:35 AM
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They got two really great castings in Affleck and Cavill and managed to irreparably fuck it up almost immediately

Impressive
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lilORANG
09/12/18 11:02:30 AM
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prince_leo posted...
the casting has never really been the issue with the DC movies

This. Cavill could be a great superman if he didn't have to act in Snyder's embarrassing movies.
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CyricZ
09/12/18 11:02:40 AM
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The DCEU is the "Man About Cake" of film franchises.

I hope to God no one gets this reference.
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darkprince45
09/12/18 11:04:14 AM
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Mr_Biscuit posted...
They got two really great castings in Affleck and Cavill and managed to irreparably fuck it up almost immediately

Impressive

This. I literally do not care about anything else in this universe. I enjoyed seeing both of them
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VipaGTS
09/12/18 11:04:34 AM
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Like, how can DC expect to have an extended universe if they keep rebooting all their major franchises? at some point they need to....you know...progress instead if restarting...
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darkjedilink
09/12/18 11:04:58 AM
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Proof that Zach Snyder is necessary for the DCEU.
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ACHEEKSMALLOY
09/12/18 11:05:59 AM
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He is perfect as supes. Fuck this
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UnfairRepresent
09/12/18 11:06:47 AM
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I saw Man of Steel and Pooper Man vs Batman Dawn of Justice and I can't remember a single memorable thing Superman did.

So I can't blame them for the recast, he was bland as fuck
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BJ-blazkowics
09/12/18 11:07:11 AM
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ACHEEKSMALLOY posted...
He is perfect as supes. Fuck this

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VipaGTS
09/12/18 11:07:17 AM
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UnfairRepresent posted...
I saw Man of Steel and Pooper Man vs Batman Dawn of Justice and I can't remember a single memorable thing Superman did.

So I can't blame them for the recast, he was bland as fuck

is that his fault? he can only play the role written for him.
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Mr_Biscuit
09/12/18 11:08:03 AM
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I dont understand why they dont just can the DCEU thing. Its an embarrassment.

Just let Wonder Woman do her thing, turn that into a stand-alone trilogy like The Dark Knight. Try this whole mashup thing again in a decade.
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Heineken14
09/12/18 11:08:13 AM
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CyricZ posted...
The DCEU is the "Man About Cake" of film franchises.

I hope to God no one gets this reference.


I googled that and... ended up watching 1 whole video and it was dumb.
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Vyrulisse
09/12/18 11:08:24 AM
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Heineken14
09/12/18 11:09:33 AM
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VipaGTS posted...
Like, how can DC expect to have an extended universe if they keep rebooting all their major franchises? at some point they need to....you know...progress instead if restarting...


This, so much. They have no fucking long term plan for this aside from just a bunch of caveman smashing paper against a typewriter screaming "we want be like Marvel!"
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Anarchy_Juiblex
09/12/18 11:10:33 AM
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Vyrulisse posted...
DC is a MESS.

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Kitt
09/12/18 11:10:40 AM
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UnfairRepresent posted...
I saw Man of Steel and Pooper Man vs Batman Dawn of Justice and I can't remember a single memorable thing Superman did.

So I can't blame them for the recast, he was bland as fuck

Nah, you can thank David S. Goyer's shitty writing and Zack Snyder's lackluster directing for that more than anything else.
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Skye Reynolds
09/12/18 11:11:18 AM
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BJ-blazkowics posted...
ACHEEKSMALLOY posted...
He is perfect as supes. Fuck this
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Skye Reynolds
09/12/18 11:12:26 AM
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Maybe we need an edgy Superman who's like, "Yeah, I saved your life. Fuck you."

Go hard R with edgy, gloomy characters. That'll win the day. :/
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s0nicfan
09/12/18 11:13:17 AM
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I think we all saw this coming when he couldn't be bothered to shave his mustache for the reshoots. Yes, he needed it for another film, but it's easier and better looking for him to put on a fake one than to make someone CG his real one away.
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sktgamer_13dude
09/12/18 11:15:22 AM
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Maybe they shouldnt have tried to immediately join Marvel and they should have done the slow build.
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UnfairRepresent
09/12/18 11:15:54 AM
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VipaGTS posted...
UnfairRepresent posted...
I saw Man of Steel and Pooper Man vs Batman Dawn of Justice and I can't remember a single memorable thing Superman did.

So I can't blame them for the recast, he was bland as fuck

is that his fault? he can only play the role written for him.

Two words:

Raul Julia

Ever seen the Street Fighter movie? Its writing and directing is even worse than Man of Steel or Superman vs Poopface Dawn of Justice BUT because of Raul (and several other actors) incredible performance, it's actually actually really entertaining.

A shit actor blames his or her script.

Charles Dance in Alien 3. Incredible memorable performance in a shitty movie.

Look at Leon the Professional, not a bad movie but what does everyone remember? Gary Oldman's performance because he was so good.

A charismatic actor shoud breathe life into his role. If he's boring as fuck that's his own fault
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CyricZ
09/12/18 11:16:18 AM
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Heineken14 posted...
CyricZ posted...
The DCEU is the "Man About Cake" of film franchises.

I hope to God no one gets this reference.


I googled that and... ended up watching 1 whole video and it was dumb.

Spoiler alert I only know about the show because of Lindsay Ellis' recent essay about YouTube and authenticity. She watches "How to Cake It", an older channel, and compares it to "Man About Cake" and comments about how MAC apes the production style of HTCI for a manufactured reach towards authenticity but never actually makes it the way HTCI does, and she goes deep into the idea of "why do people care so much about YT as a platform and what does it mean by "authenticity". Also, she calls out HTCI for its multiple calls to action per episode, and fully admits to being a fan of the show regardless.

My point being what most of us already know: that the DCEU is desperately trying to manufacture itself into the same kind of body as the MCU, but is lacking the heart and commitment to find out what really got everyone involved: they think they're hitting all the points with their filmmaking styles and character hyping and, while they're enjoying a very moderate success, they're still far from capturing what Marvel has.
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prince_leo
09/12/18 11:16:54 AM
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s0nicfan posted...
I think we all saw this coming when he couldn't be bothered to shave his mustache for the reshoots. Yes, he needed it for another film, but it's easier and better looking for him to put on a fake one than to make someone CG his real one away.

That wasn't his decision, he had a contract that said he had to keep the mustache
Take it up with Paramount
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CommonStar
09/12/18 11:17:18 AM
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s0nicfan posted...
I think we all saw this coming when he couldn't be bothered to shave his mustache for the reshoots. Yes, he needed it for another film, but it's easier and better looking for him to put on a fake one than to make someone CG his real one away.

It wasn't his decision.
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Roshon
09/12/18 11:18:23 AM
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Mr_Biscuit posted...
They got two really great castings in Affleck and Cavill and managed to irreparably fuck it up almost immediately

Impressive


Disagree. Those were not good castings at all. I think this shake up is actually what they need.
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creativerealms
09/12/18 11:18:34 AM
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darkjedilink posted...
Proof that Zach Snyder is necessary for the DCEU.

Well proof the problem wasn't just him anyway.
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Veggeta X
09/12/18 11:19:14 AM
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Let's wait for all the facts
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Roshon
09/12/18 11:21:50 AM
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If Affleck is out Im celebrating. He really brought the franchise down.
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Zikten
09/12/18 11:22:47 AM
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Roshon posted...
If Affleck is out Im celebrating. He really brought the franchise down.

I think he was the best actor to ever be Batman. the writing just sucked. he's the only batman actor in history that actually likes Batman and reads the comics. don't blame him. blame the script. he's a damn good actor
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VipaGTS
09/12/18 11:24:04 AM
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Zikten posted...
Roshon posted...
If Affleck is out Im celebrating. He really brought the franchise down.

I think he was the best actor to ever be Batman. the writing just sucked. he's the only batman actor in history that actually likes Batman and reads the comics. don't blame him. blame the script. he's a damn good actor

Christian Bale was a million times better. Afflek tried to hard to emulate that.
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Kitt
09/12/18 11:24:24 AM
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s0nicfan posted...
I think we all saw this coming when he couldn't be bothered to shave his mustache for the reshoots. Yes, he needed it for another film, but it's easier and better looking for him to put on a fake one than to make someone CG his real one away.

The director of Mission Impossible and Henry Cavill were both fine with him shaving for the Justice League re-shoots and temporarily halting the production of MI so he can grow it back. It was Paramount that wouldn't allow it.
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Zikten
09/12/18 11:24:39 AM
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Bale is horrible. he was the worst batman in history. and I mean that. fuck Bale. I hated him as Batman
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Roshon
09/12/18 11:25:05 AM
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Zikten posted...
Roshon posted...
If Affleck is out Im celebrating. He really brought the franchise down.

I think he was the best actor to ever be Batman. the writing just sucked. he's the only batman actor in history that actually likes Batman and reads the comics. don't blame him. blame the script. he's a damn good actor


He brought much negativity actually. He also bloated up and looks nothing like Bruce Wayne and I had a hard time seeing him as Bruce Wayne.
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Zikten
09/12/18 11:25:36 AM
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reading the comics, and liking Batman outside of just your stupid ass job, goes a long way for me. Bale doesn't care about Batman. neither does Nolan.
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UnfairRepresent
09/12/18 11:32:20 AM
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Zikten posted...
reading the comics, and liking Batman outside of just your stupid ass job, goes a long way for me. Bale doesn't care about Batman. neither does Nolan.

Whether or not you read comics has nothing to do with whether or not you make a good movie.

Who cares how big of a fanboy your are if your movie is poop?

I have no idea how many or how few Comics Nolan and Bale have read, Batman Begins is 15 times the movie Superman vs Batman Dawn of Poop was
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divot1338
09/12/18 11:33:25 AM
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This is like Bewitched all over again.
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Proto_Spark
09/12/18 11:33:52 AM
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Zikten posted...
reading the comics, and liking Batman outside of just your stupid ass job, goes a long way for me. Bale doesn't care about Batman. neither does Nolan.


Clearly, because the Nolan batman movies kinda felt like they were ashamed of their origins. People seemed to like the movies being ashamed of their, but then there's also popularity behind the exact opposite, where things are overwhelmingly like, proud of their source material (maybe more than they should in some cases)
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Zikten
09/12/18 11:33:56 AM
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Nolan made bad movies. the only thing good in that trilogy is Joker

Nolan ruined Batman because he had his own twisted vision. look at Rises. Nolan took a big shit on Bane and people treat it like a masterpiece. that Bane in Rises is the most pathetic version of Bane to ever exist. they ruined the character but people who don't know better think he's awesome.
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VipaGTS
09/12/18 11:34:30 AM
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Zikten why are all your opinions garbage?
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Zikten
09/12/18 11:34:45 AM
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Proto_Spark posted...
Clearly, because the Nolan batman movies kinda felt like they were ashamed of their origins.

yea. this is what I am getting at. Nolan hates comics. and thinks they are stupid.
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Proto_Spark
09/12/18 11:35:27 AM
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Zikten posted...
Nolan made bad movies. the only thing good in that trilogy is Joker

Nolan ruined Batman because he had his own twisted vision. look at Rises. Nolan took a big shit on Bane and people treat it like a masterpiece. that Bane in Rises is the most pathetic version of Bane to ever exist. they ruined the character but people who don't know better think he's awesome.


I didn't think anyone liked Rises. Like its widely considered the worst of the 3
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EndOfDiscOne
09/12/18 11:37:53 AM
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Good! This misogynist does not deserve another role.
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