Meth & Heroin

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Kombucha 09/19/18 1:27:21 PM #1:	Why is it that so many people have the thought "Hmmm this might be a good idea" when dealing with meth and heroin? I found out this girl I used to know as a kid grew up to be a hopeless meth head, along with heroin. She got so hopelessly addicted she gave her 4 month old baby away for fix money. At least that's her story, because they don't know who she gave it to. How do they know she just didn't bury the baby somewhere or throw it in a dumpster or starve it for her fix money? I hear horror stories like this all the time. I'm sure you have heard a few as well. So what is it that makes people give serious consideration to trying these drugs? To me it would be like thinking "Hey I'm going to infect myself with this disease, this is a good idea". Thoughts? --- http://www.last.fm/user/walkingishonest <cite>Kombucha posted [p:909058046] in What drive... [t:77019454]...</cite> <quote>Why is it that so many people have the thought "Hmmm this might be a good idea" when dealing with meth and heroin? I found out this girl I used to know as a kid grew up to be a hopeless meth head, along with heroin. She got so hopelessly addicted she gave her 4 month old baby away for fix money. At least that's her story, because they don't know who she gave it to. How do they know she just didn't bury the baby somewhere or throw it in a dumpster or starve it for her fix money? I hear horror stories like this all the time. I'm sure you have heard a few as well. So what is it that makes people give serious consideration to trying these drugs? To me it would be like thinking "Hey I'm going to infect myself with this disease, this is a good idea". Thoughts?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
clearaflagrantj 09/19/18 1:32:51 PM #2:	Life is miserable and drugs are an escape from it <cite>clearaflagrantj posted [p:909058374] in What drive... [t:77019454]...</cite> <quote>Life is miserable and drugs are an escape from it</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Kombucha 09/19/18 1:36:01 PM #3:	clearaflagrantj posted... Life is miserable and drugs are an escape from it But that's just it, these drugs objectively make life more miserable. Maybe if people stopped to think about it for a minute before trying to shortcut life a lot of grief could be avoided. --- http://www.last.fm/user/walkingishonest <cite>Kombucha posted [p:909058549] in What drive... [t:77019454]...</cite> <quote><cite>clearaflagrantj posted...</cite> <quote>Life is miserable and drugs are an escape from it</quote> But that's just it, these drugs objectively make life more miserable. Maybe if people stopped to think about it for a minute before trying to shortcut life a lot of grief could be avoided.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
clearaflagrantj 09/19/18 1:37:50 PM #4:	Kombucha posted... clearaflagrantj posted... Life is miserable and drugs are an escape from it But that's just it, these drugs objectively make life more miserable. Maybe if people stopped to think about it for a minute before trying to shortcut life a lot of grief could be avoided. Drugs frontload pleasure, which is what most people practice. <cite>clearaflagrantj posted [p:909058638] in What drive... [t:77019454]...</cite> <quote><cite>Kombucha posted...</cite> <quote><cite>clearaflagrantj posted...</cite> <quote>Life is miserable and drugs are an escape from it</quote> But that's just it, these drugs objectively make life more miserable. Maybe if people stopped to think about it for a minute before trying to shortcut life a lot of grief could be avoided.</quote> Drugs frontload pleasure, which is what most people practice.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Kombucha 09/19/18 1:40:00 PM #5:	clearaflagrantj posted... Kombucha posted... clearaflagrantj posted... Life is miserable and drugs are an escape from it But that's just it, these drugs objectively make life more miserable. Maybe if people stopped to think about it for a minute before trying to shortcut life a lot of grief could be avoided. Drugs frontload pleasure, which is what most people practice. On the backside of that is the suffering, coming down and the depraved shit people will do to avoid it. I guess nobody willing to do either of these drugs has the time to consider that before going head first into a full blown addiction. It's just a shame the consequences are so severe. --- http://www.last.fm/user/walkingishonest <cite>Kombucha posted [p:909058752] in What drive... [t:77019454]...</cite> <quote><cite>clearaflagrantj posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Kombucha posted...</cite> <quote><cite>clearaflagrantj posted...</cite> <quote>Life is miserable and drugs are an escape from it</quote> But that's just it, these drugs objectively make life more miserable. Maybe if people stopped to think about it for a minute before trying to shortcut life a lot of grief could be avoided.</quote> Drugs frontload pleasure, which is what most people practice.</quote> On the backside of that is the suffering, coming down and the depraved shit people will do to avoid it. I guess nobody willing to do either of these drugs has the time to consider that before going head first into a full blown addiction. It's just a shame the consequences are so severe.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
SSJCAT 09/19/18 1:41:29 PM #6:	most people probably dont say im gonna become a full-blown addict today they are probably slowly introduced to it usually, like maybe with pain medication, and the first couple times its really fun and they think well this isnt too bad i can probably handle doing this every now and then and then you start doing it on weekends and then more and more often until youre hooked --- PSN: SUPER_KITTY_JAM FC: SW-2262-4005-7054 <cite>SSJCAT posted [p:909058833] in What drive... [t:77019454]...</cite> <quote>most people probably dont say im gonna become a full-blown addict today they are probably slowly introduced to it usually, like maybe with pain medication, and the first couple times its really fun and they think well this isnt too bad i can probably handle doing this every now and then and then you start doing it on weekends and then more and more often until youre hooked</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Giant_Aspirin 09/19/18 1:43:39 PM #7:	i dont think anyone starts off saying "here we go, im gonna get myself addicted to meth!". it's a gradual thing where one compromise leads to another. someone maybe starts off doing coke on the weekends and really enjoys the rush. then someone tells them "man, if you like coke you gotta try meth" and that person says "oh well ok. ill just snort it and not smoke it because snorting isnt that bad" and so they try it, like it, and then start doing it semi-regularly on weekends. but only snorting, of course, because smoking is how people become junkies. then it slowly turns into an every weekend thing instead of just on special occasions. then the weekends seem so far apart and you just have a little bit on Wednesday to "get through the week". then you start realizing how much money you're spending on meth and you learn that smoking is more efficient so you just try that a couple of times because you're strapped for cash. then smoking becomes your regular method of ingestion and suddenly you're smoking it 2-3 times a week. by the time you realize how far its progressed it's already too late. --- Playing: Dead Cells; Xenoblade 2; Mario Odyssey *(~);} - I suppose it will all make sense when we grow up - {;(~)* <cite>Giant_Aspirin posted [p:909058930] in What drive... [t:77019454]...</cite> <quote>i dont think anyone starts off saying "here we go, im gonna get myself addicted to meth!". it's a gradual thing where one compromise leads to another. someone maybe starts off doing coke on the weekends and really enjoys the rush. then someone tells them "man, if you like coke you gotta try meth" and that person says "oh well ok. ill just snort it and not smoke it because snorting isnt that bad" and so they try it, like it, and then start doing it semi-regularly on weekends. but only snorting, of course, because smoking is how people become junkies. then it slowly turns into an every weekend thing instead of just on special occasions. then the weekends seem so far apart and you just have a little bit on Wednesday to "get through the week". then you start realizing how much money you're spending on meth and you learn that smoking is more efficient so you just try that a couple of times because you're strapped for cash. then smoking becomes your regular method of ingestion and suddenly you're smoking it 2-3 times a week. by the time you realize how far its progressed it's already too late.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Kombucha 09/19/18 1:44:14 PM #8:	SSJCAT posted... most people probably dont say im gonna become a full-blown addict today they are probably slowly introduced to it usually, like maybe with pain medication, and the first couple times its really fun and they think well this isnt too bad i can probably handle doing this every now and then and then you start doing it on weekends and then more and more often until youre hooked Probably. My mind interprets it as a 100% commit to being addicted if I ever touch either just because of all the stuff I've witnessed. I think you really need to shut your eyes to reality these days to even consider getting started, hopefully people are waking up and the levels of new addicts declines. I mean it's getting more exposure now in the news and media than it seems to have gotten in the past. --- http://www.last.fm/user/walkingishonest <cite>Kombucha posted [p:909058966] in What drive... [t:77019454]...</cite> <quote><cite>SSJCAT posted...</cite> <quote>most people probably dont say im gonna become a full-blown addict today they are probably slowly introduced to it usually, like maybe with pain medication, and the first couple times its really fun and they think well this isnt too bad i can probably handle doing this every now and then and then you start doing it on weekends and then more and more often until youre hooked</quote> Probably. My mind interprets it as a 100% commit to being addicted if I ever touch either just because of all the stuff I've witnessed. I think you really need to shut your eyes to reality these days to even consider getting started, hopefully people are waking up and the levels of new addicts declines. I mean it's getting more exposure now in the news and media than it seems to have gotten in the past.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Kombucha 09/19/18 1:48:57 PM #9:	Giant_Aspirin posted... i dont think anyone starts off saying "here we go, im gonna get myself addicted to meth!". it's a gradual thing where one compromise leads to another. someone maybe starts off doing coke on the weekends and really enjoys the rush. then someone tells them "man, if you like coke you gotta try meth" and that person says "oh well ok. ill just snort it and not smoke it because snorting isnt that bad" and so they try it, like it, and then start doing it semi-regularly on weekends. but only snorting, of course, because smoking is how people become junkies. then it slowly turns into an every weekend thing instead of just on special occasions. then the weekends seem so far apart and you just have a little bit on Wednesday to "get through the week". then you start realizing how much money you're spending on meth and you learn that smoking is more efficient so you just try that a couple of times because you're strapped for cash. then smoking becomes your regular method of ingestion and suddenly you're smoking it 2-3 times a week. by the time you realize how far its progressed it's already too late. Yeah this is a good break down of the progression that often takes place when people minimize the risk of trying it once. Honestly people like to laugh at the "Just Say No" campaigns in the 90s because they were aimed at benign stuff like cannabis, but I think the saying definitely has some merit in the realms of some drugs like these. --- http://www.last.fm/user/walkingishonest <cite>Kombucha posted [p:909059256] in What drive... [t:77019454]...</cite> <quote><cite>Giant_Aspirin posted...</cite> <quote>i dont think anyone starts off saying "here we go, im gonna get myself addicted to meth!". it's a gradual thing where one compromise leads to another. someone maybe starts off doing coke on the weekends and really enjoys the rush. then someone tells them "man, if you like coke you gotta try meth" and that person says "oh well ok. ill just snort it and not smoke it because snorting isnt that bad" and so they try it, like it, and then start doing it semi-regularly on weekends. but only snorting, of course, because smoking is how people become junkies. then it slowly turns into an every weekend thing instead of just on special occasions. then the weekends seem so far apart and you just have a little bit on Wednesday to "get through the week". then you start realizing how much money you're spending on meth and you learn that smoking is more efficient so you just try that a couple of times because you're strapped for cash. then smoking becomes your regular method of ingestion and suddenly you're smoking it 2-3 times a week. by the time you realize how far its progressed it's already too late.</quote> Yeah this is a good break down of the progression that often takes place when people minimize the risk of trying it once. Honestly people like to laugh at the "Just Say No" campaigns in the 90s because they were aimed at benign stuff like cannabis, but I think the saying definitely has some merit in the realms of some drugs like these.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
MICHALECOLE 09/19/18 1:50:10 PM #10:	I wonder how much she got for the baby <cite>MICHALECOLE posted [p:909059327] in What drive... [t:77019454]...</cite> <quote>I wonder how much she got for the baby</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
green butter 09/19/18 1:50:30 PM #11:	i posted something like this a while ago: your entire life you are told stuff is black & white, especially when it comes to drugs. drinking is bad, drugs are bad. you do drugs, you become an addict, you become homeless, you die. as a teen/young adult, maybe you start drinking, smoking weed, etc and you realize that it's not so bad. you can (responsibly enough) get drunk/high and have a good time, and your life remains the same. maybe you dont have a strong family, maybe you're just bored, a naturally restless person, whatever. but either way, you are now hanging around with people who casually use drugs like shrooms, molly, etc and the idea of trying new stuff is an exciting option for you. One day, you find out your friend Mike uses heroin. This shocks you because Mike isn't at all what you picture when you think of a heroin user. He has a job, he has a girlfriend, he is charismatic & funny, etc. You talk to Mike and you find out that he only uses on weekends, and he doesn't shoot up (because that's what addicts do). It's just a cool way for him to chill out. Eventually you're interested and you say fuck it, I'll smoke a little with you too. You smoke some H and your world doesn't come crashing down, it just feels... awesome. you make plans to smoke again with Mike next time. what you don't know, and can't possibly know at that time, is that every drug user has their own story, and that addiction has to start somewhere. i think there is a tremendous amount of misinformation out there regarding what being an addict is LIKE, moreso than the addiction. --- https://imgur.com/LhwwG <cite>green butter posted [p:909059350] in What drive... [t:77019454]...</cite> <quote>i posted something like this a while ago: your entire life you are told stuff is black & white, especially when it comes to drugs. drinking is bad, drugs are bad. you do drugs, you become an addict, you become homeless, you die. as a teen/young adult, maybe you start drinking, smoking weed, etc and you realize that it's not so bad. you can (responsibly enough) get drunk/high and have a good time, and your life remains the same. maybe you dont have a strong family, maybe you're just bored, a naturally restless person, whatever. but either way, you are now hanging around with people who casually use drugs like shrooms, molly, etc and the idea of trying new stuff is an exciting option for you. One day, you find out your friend Mike uses heroin. This shocks you because Mike isn't at all what you picture when you think of a heroin user. He has a job, he has a girlfriend, he is charismatic & funny, etc. You talk to Mike and you find out that he only uses on weekends, and he doesn't shoot up (because that's what addicts do). It's just a cool way for him to chill out. Eventually you're interested and you say fuck it, I'll smoke a little with you too. You smoke some H and your world doesn't come crashing down, it just feels... awesome. you make plans to smoke again with Mike next time. what you don't know, and can't possibly know at that time, is that every drug user has their own story, and that addiction has to start somewhere. i think there is a tremendous amount of misinformation out there regarding what being an addict is LIKE, moreso than the addiction.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
clearaflagrantj 09/19/18 1:56:55 PM #12:	green butter posted... i posted something like this a while ago Nail on the fucking head. I learned this with weed but I recognize that harder drugs are so much more dangerous and subversive that I have to actively avoid ever considering them. I also have to consciously avoid slipping into alcohol addiction (though I drink regularly) <cite>clearaflagrantj posted [p:909059717] in What drive... [t:77019454]...</cite> <quote><cite>green butter posted...</cite> <quote>i posted something like this a while ago</quote> Nail on the fucking head. I learned this with weed but I recognize that harder drugs are so much more dangerous and subversive that I have to actively avoid ever considering them. I also have to consciously avoid slipping into alcohol addiction (though I drink regularly)</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Vertania 09/19/18 2:00:40 PM #14:	With heroin, a lot of people get hooked on opiod prescriptions first, then switch to heroin because it's cheaper than buying the drugs at street prices. <cite>Vertania posted [p:909059940] in What drive... [t:77019454]...</cite> <quote>With heroin, a lot of people get hooked on opiod prescriptions first, then switch to heroin because it's cheaper than buying the drugs at street prices.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Balrog0 09/19/18 2:01:39 PM #15:	Kombucha posted... Honestly people like to laugh at the "Just Say No" campaigns in the 90s because they were aimed at benign stuff like cannabis, but I think the saying definitely has some merit in the realms of some drugs like these. it is laughable because it totally misunderstands how humans work like those anti-tobacco campaigns where they talk about how smoking isn't cool. that's useless. high tobacco taxes and social control style government regulations around public smoking are what turned that around. also, with pain medicine specifically, it can literally be impossible to 'just say no' --- But to you who are listening I say: Love your enemies, do good to those who hate you, bless those who curse you, pray for those who mistreat you. <cite>Balrog0 posted [p:909059995] in What drive... [t:77019454]...</cite> <quote><cite>Kombucha posted...</cite> <quote>Honestly people like to laugh at the "Just Say No" campaigns in the 90s because they were aimed at benign stuff like cannabis, but I think the saying definitely has some merit in the realms of some drugs like these.</quote> it is laughable because it totally misunderstands how humans work like those anti-tobacco campaigns where they talk about how smoking isn't cool. that's useless. high tobacco taxes and social control style government regulations around public smoking are what turned that around. also, with pain medicine specifically, it can literally be impossible to 'just say no'</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
TroutPaste 09/19/18 2:03:47 PM #16:	The psychology behind it is interesting. I've made the mistake but never got addicted. Part of it has to do with brain development, your opinion of your peers, impulsive behavior, wanting to escape --- Steam 4leaf440 / PSN TroutPaste89 / XBL FourLeaf440 <cite>TroutPaste posted [p:909060123] in What drive... [t:77019454]...</cite> <quote>The psychology behind it is interesting. I've made the mistake but never got addicted. Part of it has to do with brain development, your opinion of your peers, impulsive behavior, wanting to escape</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Kombucha 09/19/18 2:06:59 PM #17:	MICHALECOLE posted... I wonder how much she got for the baby 0 prison time, which is an injustice. --- http://www.last.fm/user/walkingishonest <cite>Kombucha posted [p:909060308] in What drive... [t:77019454]...</cite> <quote><cite>MICHALECOLE posted...</cite> <quote>I wonder how much she got for the baby</quote> 0 prison time, which is an injustice.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
RiderofHogs 09/19/18 2:09:43 PM #18:	SSJCAT posted... most people probably dont say im gonna become a full-blown addict today they are probably slowly introduced to it usually, like maybe with pain medication, and the first couple times its really fun and they think well this isnt too bad i can probably handle doing this every now and then and then you start doing it on weekends and then more and more often until youre hooked Yeah, I had medical morphine before and can easily see why people can get addicted to it. --- I hath returned. <cite>RiderofHogs posted [p:909060464] in What drive... [t:77019454]...</cite> <quote><cite>SSJCAT posted...</cite> <quote>most people probably dont say im gonna become a full-blown addict today they are probably slowly introduced to it usually, like maybe with pain medication, and the first couple times its really fun and they think well this isnt too bad i can probably handle doing this every now and then and then you start doing it on weekends and then more and more often until youre hooked</quote> Yeah, I had medical morphine before and can easily see why people can get addicted to it.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Kombucha 09/19/18 2:13:05 PM #19:	Are there any prescription drugs that would lead people to use meth, has it been synthesized into prescription form? Like obviously the use of heroin in prescription medication is well documented, how about meth? Just curious. --- http://www.last.fm/user/walkingishonest <cite>Kombucha posted [p:909060669] in What drive... [t:77019454]...</cite> <quote>Are there any prescription drugs that would lead people to use meth, has it been synthesized into prescription form? Like obviously the use of heroin in prescription medication is well documented, how about meth? Just curious.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Kombucha 09/19/18 2:13:42 PM #20:	Balrog0 posted... Kombucha posted... Honestly people like to laugh at the "Just Say No" campaigns in the 90s because they were aimed at benign stuff like cannabis, but I think the saying definitely has some merit in the realms of some drugs like these. it is laughable because it totally misunderstands how humans work like those anti-tobacco campaigns where they talk about how smoking isn't cool. that's useless. high tobacco taxes and social control style government regulations around public smoking are what turned that around. also, with pain medicine specifically, it can literally be impossible to 'just say no' These are all good points so I'm not going to refute them. --- http://www.last.fm/user/walkingishonest <cite>Kombucha posted [p:909060699] in What drive... [t:77019454]...</cite> <quote><cite>Balrog0 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Kombucha posted...</cite> <quote>Honestly people like to laugh at the "Just Say No" campaigns in the 90s because they were aimed at benign stuff like cannabis, but I think the saying definitely has some merit in the realms of some drugs like these.</quote> it is laughable because it totally misunderstands how humans work like those anti-tobacco campaigns where they talk about how smoking isn't cool. that's useless. high tobacco taxes and social control style government regulations around public smoking are what turned that around. also, with pain medicine specifically, it can literally be impossible to 'just say no'</quote> These are all good points so I'm not going to refute them.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
SSJCAT 09/19/18 2:13:43 PM #21:	Kombucha posted... Are there any prescription drugs that would lead people to use meth, has it been synthesized into prescription form? Like obviously the use of heroin in prescription medication is well documented, how about meth? Just curious. adderall and other add meds --- PSN: SUPER_KITTY_JAM FC: SW-2262-4005-7054 <cite>SSJCAT posted [p:909060701] in What drive... [t:77019454]...</cite> <quote><cite>Kombucha posted...</cite> <quote>Are there any prescription drugs that would lead people to use meth, has it been synthesized into prescription form? Like obviously the use of heroin in prescription medication is well documented, how about meth? Just curious.</quote> adderall and other add meds</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Kombucha 09/19/18 2:17:34 PM #22:	SSJCAT posted... Kombucha posted... Are there any prescription drugs that would lead people to use meth, has it been synthesized into prescription form? Like obviously the use of heroin in prescription medication is well documented, how about meth? Just curious. adderall and other add meds Damn, I used to refer to pharma drugs as bathtub drugs as a form of skepticism and have done a few in my life through prescriptions but avoided them probably 95% of the time. I think maybe I just got off lucky by being a stuck up stoner that was overly elitist about using "only green". Also there was a lot of documentation online regarding drugs when I was growing up that I would read about. I don't know if I'm allowed to even mention the site here (probably not) but it was definitely a good tool for avoiding certain things. --- http://www.last.fm/user/walkingishonest <cite>Kombucha posted [p:909060920] in What drive... [t:77019454]...</cite> <quote><cite>SSJCAT posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Kombucha posted...</cite> <quote>Are there any prescription drugs that would lead people to use meth, has it been synthesized into prescription form? Like obviously the use of heroin in prescription medication is well documented, how about meth? Just curious.</quote> adderall and other add meds</quote> Damn, I used to refer to pharma drugs as bathtub drugs as a form of skepticism and have done a few in my life through prescriptions but avoided them probably 95% of the time. I think maybe I just got off lucky by being a stuck up stoner that was overly elitist about using "only green". Also there was a lot of documentation online regarding drugs when I was growing up that I would read about. I don't know if I'm allowed to even mention the site here (probably not) but it was definitely a good tool for avoiding certain things.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
mattnd2007 09/19/18 2:28:19 PM #23:	Heroin I get. I don't get meth. Like most heroin addicts started with a legal opioid script. Meth is like why? There isn't like a logical progression to meth use. --- Show me a man who resorts to violence and I'll show you a man who's run out of good ideas Phil Funnie <cite>mattnd2007 posted [p:909061484] in What drive... [t:77019454]...</cite> <quote>Heroin I get. I don't get meth. Like most heroin addicts started with a legal opioid script. Meth is like why? There isn't like a logical progression to meth use.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Lost_All_Senses 09/19/18 2:31:11 PM #24:	Permanent decisions off temporary feelings. You want the quick happiness and you feel like the future is dark for you anyway so it's easily sacrificed. Also a lot of people seem to have this mindset that they are mentally stronger than everyone else do they think they won't go down like that --- There will always be exceptions. <cite>Lost_All_Senses posted [p:909061646] in What drive... [t:77019454]...</cite> <quote>Permanent decisions off temporary feelings. You want the quick happiness and you feel like the future is dark for you anyway so it's easily sacrificed. Also a lot of people seem to have this mindset that they are mentally stronger than everyone else do they think they won't go down like that</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
mattnd2007 09/19/18 2:38:12 PM #25:	Lost_All_Senses posted... Permanent decisions off temporary feelings. You want the quick happiness and you feel like the future is dark for you anyway so it's easily sacrificed. Also a lot of people seem to have this mindset that they are mentally stronger than everyone else do they think they won't go down like that Yeah I've heard the "mentally stronger" thing. But you probably aren't. Like what makes you special that you'll not become a meth addict. --- Show me a man who resorts to violence and I'll show you a man who's run out of good ideas Phil Funnie <cite>mattnd2007 posted [p:909062060] in What drive... [t:77019454]...</cite> <quote><cite>Lost_All_Senses posted...</cite> <quote>Permanent decisions off temporary feelings. You want the quick happiness and you feel like the future is dark for you anyway so it's easily sacrificed. Also a lot of people seem to have this mindset that they are mentally stronger than everyone else do they think they won't go down like that</quote> Yeah I've heard the "mentally stronger" thing. But you probably aren't. Like what makes you special that you'll not become a meth addict.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Lost_All_Senses 09/19/18 2:42:48 PM #26:	mattnd2007 posted... Lost_All_Senses posted... Permanent decisions off temporary feelings. You want the quick happiness and you feel like the future is dark for you anyway so it's easily sacrificed. Also a lot of people seem to have this mindset that they are mentally stronger than everyone else do they think they won't go down like that Yeah I've heard the "mentally stronger" thing. But you probably aren't. Like what makes you special that you'll not become a meth addict. It's just a sense of superiority a lot of people have. They were never humbled. Meth might humble the fuck out of you and make it too late simultaneously. Some people can't find happiness without feeling superior. I find my happiness in feeling a connection to everyone like we're the same person living different lifes --- There will always be exceptions. <cite>Lost_All_Senses posted [p:909062318] in What drive... [t:77019454]...</cite> <quote><cite>mattnd2007 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Lost_All_Senses posted...</cite> <quote>Permanent decisions off temporary feelings. You want the quick happiness and you feel like the future is dark for you anyway so it's easily sacrificed. Also a lot of people seem to have this mindset that they are mentally stronger than everyone else do they think they won't go down like that</quote> Yeah I've heard the "mentally stronger" thing. But you probably aren't. Like what makes you special that you'll not become a meth addict.</quote> It's just a sense of superiority a lot of people have. They were never humbled. Meth might humble the fuck out of you and make it too late simultaneously. Some people can't find happiness without feeling superior. I find my happiness in feeling a connection to everyone like we're the same person living different lifes</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Vertania 09/19/18 2:54:24 PM #27:	SSJCAT posted... adderall and other add meds Uhh... I don't see the connection there. As an adult, I've on Methylphenidate for about a year, off it for about a year, and then back on it for the last 2 years or so. That year without it was difficult, but I never seriously considered switching to fucking meth. <cite>Vertania posted [p:909062932] in What drive... [t:77019454]...</cite> <quote><cite>SSJCAT posted...</cite> <quote>adderall and other add meds</quote> Uhh... I don't see the connection there. As an adult, I've on Methylphenidate for about a year, off it for about a year, and then back on it for the last 2 years or so. That year without it was difficult, but I never seriously considered switching to fucking meth.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
MICHALECOLE 09/19/18 3:02:51 PM #28:	Kombucha posted... MICHALECOLE posted... I wonder how much she got for the baby 0 prison time, which is an injustice. No, I meant dollars How much is a baby going for these days? Probably different amounts depending on color <cite>MICHALECOLE posted [p:909063404] in What drive... [t:77019454]...</cite> <quote><cite>Kombucha posted...</cite> <quote><cite>MICHALECOLE posted...</cite> <quote>I wonder how much she got for the baby</quote> 0 prison time, which is an injustice.</quote> No, I meant dollars How much is a baby going for these days? Probably different amounts depending on color</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
SSJCAT 09/19/18 3:13:54 PM #29:	Vertania posted... SSJCAT posted... adderall and other add meds Uhh... I don't see the connection there. As an adult, I've on Methylphenidate for about a year, off it for about a year, and then back on it for the last 2 years or so. That year without it was difficult, but I never seriously considered switching to fucking meth. he meant if there was a comparable prescription as pain killers to heroin as there is to meth. adderall and other adhd meds are literally amphetamines and get people without add a speed high. the comparison is logical --- PSN: SUPER_KITTY_JAM FC: SW-2262-4005-7054 <cite>SSJCAT posted [p:909064034] in What drive... [t:77019454]...</cite> <quote><cite>Vertania posted...</cite> <quote><cite>SSJCAT posted...</cite> <quote>adderall and other add meds</quote> Uhh... I don't see the connection there. As an adult, I've on Methylphenidate for about a year, off it for about a year, and then back on it for the last 2 years or so. That year without it was difficult, but I never seriously considered switching to fucking meth.</quote> he meant if there was a comparable prescription as pain killers to heroin as there is to meth. adderall and other adhd meds are literally amphetamines and get people without add a speed high. the comparison is logical</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Lost_All_Senses 09/19/18 3:16:31 PM #30:	I was addicting to adderall to the point Id mentally get drained if someone brought it up and didn't have it. I never had a connection where I could do it more than a week straight tho. The withdrawal is fuckin terrible and now I get physically sick if I do it and go cold turkey. --- There will always be exceptions. <cite>Lost_All_Senses posted [p:909064192] in What drive... [t:77019454]...</cite> <quote>I was addicting to adderall to the point Id mentally get drained if someone brought it up and didn't have it. I never had a connection where I could do it more than a week straight tho. The withdrawal is fuckin terrible and now I get physically sick if I do it and go cold turkey.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
electricbugs2 09/19/18 3:16:32 PM #31:	One of my exes did heroin off the spoon once. She was a pretty regular drug user, but claimed that heroin was the scariest thing she had ever done and she refused to go near the stuff since. Shits crazy. --- Is sticking your tongue on a 9-volt battery a masculine gesture?-Questionmarktarius <cite>electricbugs2 posted [p:909064194] in What drive... [t:77019454]...</cite> <quote>One of my exes did heroin off the spoon once. She was a pretty regular drug user, but claimed that heroin was the scariest thing she had ever done and she refused to go near the stuff since. Shits crazy.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
krazychao5 09/19/18 3:17:20 PM #32:	Lost_All_Senses posted... Also a lot of people seem to have this mindset that they are mentally stronger than everyone else do they think they won't go down like that ooooh wheee that's me! Lol for cigs at least. I've "smoked" for over 10 years, but never been addicted. Just bum smokes off of friends, but I wonder if I would be able to resist more addictive drugs. --- https://supermariomakerbookmark.nintendo.net/profile/bigllama?type=posted <cite>krazychao5 posted [p:909064244] in What drive... [t:77019454]...</cite> <quote><cite>Lost_All_Senses posted...</cite> <quote>Also a lot of people seem to have this mindset that they are mentally stronger than everyone else do they think they won't go down like that</quote> ooooh wheee that's me! Lol for cigs at least. I've "smoked" for over 10 years, but never been addicted. Just bum smokes off of friends, but I wonder if I would be able to resist more addictive drugs.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
MarqueeSeries 09/19/18 3:23:04 PM #33:	Probably similar to how I started smoking cigarettes. I knew how bad they are for you, but I ended up bumming a smoke or two during breaks at work. I enjoyed the feeling and said fuck it, I'll just buy a pack to smoke at work. Never at home. That turned into smoking on breaks and lunch, then smoking on the way to and from work, then smoking on the weekends, etc Every addiction starts small because you fool yourself into thinking you won't get addicted. 4 years later I still need my nicotine fix everyday --- Posted with GameRaven 3.5.1 <cite>MarqueeSeries posted [p:909064611] in What drive... [t:77019454]...</cite> <quote>Probably similar to how I started smoking cigarettes. I knew how bad they are for you, but I ended up bumming a smoke or two during breaks at work. I enjoyed the feeling and said fuck it, I'll just buy a pack to smoke at work. Never at home. That turned into smoking on breaks and lunch, then smoking on the way to and from work, then smoking on the weekends, etc Every addiction starts small because you fool yourself into thinking you won't get addicted. 4 years later I still need my nicotine fix everyday</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
EdgeMaster 09/19/18 3:44:09 PM #34:	SSJCAT posted... Vertania posted... SSJCAT posted... adderall and other add meds Uhh... I don't see the connection there. As an adult, I've on Methylphenidate for about a year, off it for about a year, and then back on it for the last 2 years or so. That year without it was difficult, but I never seriously considered switching to fucking meth. he meant if there was a comparable prescription as pain killers to heroin as there is to meth. adderall and other adhd meds are literally amphetamines and get people without add a speed high. the comparison is logical Haha. No lol. Youre completely forgetting the aspect that would make people think fuck, if my adderall worked this well for writing papers, meth must work wonders. Theyre similar chemically but that doesnt mean someone will jump from a study drug to fuckin meth. Usually its drug addicts that like stimulants, like cocaine, and end up fucking their money up. Coke is expensive, meth is not. --- If you don't have anything nice to say, say it on the internet. ****poster Extraordinaire <cite>EdgeMaster posted [p:909065973] in What drive... [t:77019454]...</cite> <quote><cite>SSJCAT posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Vertania posted...</cite> <quote><cite>SSJCAT posted...</cite> <quote>adderall and other add meds</quote> Uhh... I don't see the connection there. As an adult, I've on Methylphenidate for about a year, off it for about a year, and then back on it for the last 2 years or so. That year without it was difficult, but I never seriously considered switching to fucking meth.</quote> he meant if there was a comparable prescription as pain killers to heroin as there is to meth. adderall and other adhd meds are literally amphetamines and get people without add a speed high. the comparison is logical</quote> Haha. No lol. Youre completely forgetting the aspect that would make people think fuck, if my adderall worked this well for writing papers, meth must work wonders. Theyre similar chemically but that doesnt mean someone will jump from a study drug to fuckin meth. Usually its drug addicts that like stimulants, like cocaine, and end up fucking their money up. Coke is expensive, meth is not.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
prince_leo 09/19/18 3:49:15 PM #35:	I totally get why people use heroin I had a major injury years ago and was given a prescription for vicodin. it was fucking bliss --- https://imgur.com/uHUvpSH http://error1355.com/ce/prince_leo.html <cite>prince_leo posted [p:909066313] in What drive... [t:77019454]...</cite> <quote>I totally get why people use heroin I had a major injury years ago and was given a prescription for vicodin. it was fucking bliss</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
SSJCAT 09/19/18 3:50:14 PM #36:	EdgeMaster posted... SSJCAT posted... Vertania posted... SSJCAT posted... adderall and other add meds Uhh... I don't see the connection there. As an adult, I've on Methylphenidate for about a year, off it for about a year, and then back on it for the last 2 years or so. That year without it was difficult, but I never seriously considered switching to fucking meth. he meant if there was a comparable prescription as pain killers to heroin as there is to meth. adderall and other adhd meds are literally amphetamines and get people without add a speed high. the comparison is logical Haha. No lol. Youre completely forgetting the aspect that would make people think fuck, if my adderall worked this well for writing papers, meth must work wonders. Theyre similar chemically but that doesnt mean someone will jump from a study drug to fuckin meth. Usually its drug addicts that like stimulants, like cocaine, and end up fucking their money up. Coke is expensive, meth is not. dont know why yall are coming at me on this??? the closest prescription to be compared to meth would be adderall and other similar add drugs. that is the only point i was trying to make not that taking adderall will automatically make you jump to meth. lol wtf yall --- PSN: SUPER_KITTY_JAM FC: SW-2262-4005-7054 <cite>SSJCAT posted [p:909066360] in What drive... [t:77019454]...</cite> <quote><cite>EdgeMaster posted...</cite> <quote><cite>SSJCAT posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Vertania posted...</cite> <quote><cite>SSJCAT posted...</cite> <quote>adderall and other add meds</quote> Uhh... I don't see the connection there. As an adult, I've on Methylphenidate for about a year, off it for about a year, and then back on it for the last 2 years or so. That year without it was difficult, but I never seriously considered switching to fucking meth.</quote> he meant if there was a comparable prescription as pain killers to heroin as there is to meth. adderall and other adhd meds are literally amphetamines and get people without add a speed high. the comparison is logical</quote> Haha. No lol. Youre completely forgetting the aspect that would make people think fuck, if my adderall worked this well for writing papers, meth must work wonders. Theyre similar chemically but that doesnt mean someone will jump from a study drug to fuckin meth. Usually its drug addicts that like stimulants, like cocaine, and end up fucking their money up. Coke is expensive, meth is not.</quote> dont know why yall are coming at me on this??? the closest prescription to be compared to meth would be adderall and other similar add drugs. that is the only point i was trying to make not that taking adderall will automatically make you jump to meth. lol wtf yall</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
dontIoseyourway 09/19/18 3:52:15 PM #37:	meth is prescribed for ADHD in rare cases brand name something like Desoxyn <cite>dontIoseyourway posted [p:909066490] in What drive... [t:77019454]...</cite> <quote>meth is prescribed for ADHD in rare cases brand name something like Desoxyn</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
kingdrake2 09/19/18 3:54:49 PM #38:	wish my brother would straighten out. all he gotta do is get off the fucking drugs. work on problems one by one until he can get his life started back up again. if he breaks my grandfather's window over some lousy BS i'm going to be pissed (he previously broke 3 people's houses window's over people who supposedly wronged him including mine) because i was too paranoid to let him stay the night (previously stolen a jar of change in the past) which is why i can't trust him. --- I'm pretty much Stu from Rugrats making pudding at 4 in morning because I've lost control of my life - Polycosm <cite>kingdrake2 posted [p:909066649] in What drive... [t:77019454]...</cite> <quote>wish my brother would straighten out. all he gotta do is get off the fucking drugs. work on problems one by one until he can get his life started back up again. if he breaks my grandfather's window over some lousy BS i'm going to be pissed (he previously broke 3 people's houses window's over people who supposedly wronged him including mine) because i was too paranoid to let him stay the night (previously stolen a jar of change in the past) which is why i can't trust him.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Lost_All_Senses 09/19/18 4:30:16 PM #39:	kingdrake2 posted... wish my brother would straighten out. all he gotta do is get off the fucking drugs. work on problems one by one until he can get his life started back up again. if he breaks my grandfather's window over some lousy BS i'm going to be pissed (he previously broke 3 people's houses window's over people who supposedly wronged him including mine) because i was too paranoid to let him stay the night (previously stolen a jar of change in the past) which is why i can't trust him. It sucks to believe but some of thosr qualities probably have little to do with drugs. Ive gone through terrible withdrawals but they never led me to fuck someone over. I have too much pride. Id rather stay in my house for days feeling like Im gonna die. You have at least have some griminess deep down to take the "fuck everyone over for my own needs" approach. Your brother might just be an asshole. --- There will always be exceptions. <cite>Lost_All_Senses posted [p:909068559] in What drive... [t:77019454]...</cite> <quote><cite>kingdrake2 posted...</cite> <quote>wish my brother would straighten out. all he gotta do is get off the fucking drugs. work on problems one by one until he can get his life started back up again. if he breaks my grandfather's window over some lousy BS i'm going to be pissed (he previously broke 3 people's houses window's over people who supposedly wronged him including mine) because i was too paranoid to let him stay the night (previously stolen a jar of change in the past) which is why i can't trust him.</quote> It sucks to believe but some of thosr qualities probably have little to do with drugs. Ive gone through terrible withdrawals but they never led me to fuck someone over. I have too much pride. Id rather stay in my house for days feeling like Im gonna die. You have at least have some griminess deep down to take the "fuck everyone over for my own needs" approach. Your brother might just be an asshole.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Paper_Okami 09/19/18 4:31:29 PM #40:	have you tried it? --- "Conceit, arrogance and egotism are the essentials of patriotism"- Emma Goldman "Wimmy Wham Wham Wozzle!" -Slurms MacKenzie <cite>Paper_Okami posted [p:909068631] in What drive... [t:77019454]...</cite> <quote>have you tried it?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Kombucha 09/19/18 4:32:47 PM #41:	Paper_Okami posted... have you tried it? This topic is in regard to the initial decision, not the decision made after you're already hooked. Obviously that one is going to be clouded as hell. --- http://www.last.fm/user/walkingishonest <cite>Kombucha posted [p:909068700] in What drive... [t:77019454]...</cite> <quote><cite>Paper_Okami posted...</cite> <quote>have you tried it?</quote> This topic is in regard to the initial decision, not the decision made after you're already hooked. Obviously that one is going to be clouded as hell.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Paper_Okami 09/19/18 4:34:14 PM #42:	Kombucha posted... Paper_Okami posted... have you tried it? This topic is in regard to the initial decision, not the decision made after you're already hooked. Obviously that one is going to be clouded as hell. i haven't tried it either mom always says you never know until you try --- "Conceit, arrogance and egotism are the essentials of patriotism"- Emma Goldman "Wimmy Wham Wham Wozzle!" -Slurms MacKenzie <cite>Paper_Okami posted [p:909068767] in What drive... [t:77019454]...</cite> <quote><cite>Kombucha posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Paper_Okami posted...</cite> <quote>have you tried it?</quote> This topic is in regard to the initial decision, not the decision made after you're already hooked. Obviously that one is going to be clouded as hell.</quote> i haven't tried it either mom always says you never know until you try</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Omega Hunter 09/19/18 4:48:05 PM #43:	Humans are bad at taking care of their future self and good at making present self happy. Every single obese person has the same problem. Everyone that drops out of school has the same problem. Everyone that cheats on their wife gets caught and has their life fall apart has the same problem. Everyone that got a girl pregnant or caught an std has the same problem. There is future self and there is present self and you need to go through life always thinking of both. However only the most intelligent of humans properly factor in future self on all decisions. Once future self is a consideration you start to do a lot of shit you otherwise would not do, only to benefit future self. Eating healthy, going to bed early, studying and doing your homework, not proscrasting at work, saying no to fun drugs, putting on a condom before you fuck this chick. All of that is hard on present self, but for the best of future self. Problem is you can only feel present self, as Peter Griffin from family guy said after making a bad decision "that's a problem for future Peter...sucks to be that guy". --- Living is naturally hell, you have to work to put a smile on. http://images.complex.com/complex/image/upload/7_ugmpjq.gif <cite>Omega Hunter posted [p:909069519] in What drive... [t:77019454]...</cite> <quote>Humans are bad at taking care of their future self and good at making present self happy. Every single obese person has the same problem. Everyone that drops out of school has the same problem. Everyone that cheats on their wife gets caught and has their life fall apart has the same problem. Everyone that got a girl pregnant or caught an std has the same problem. There is future self and there is present self and you need to go through life always thinking of both. However only the most intelligent of humans properly factor in future self on all decisions. Once future self is a consideration you start to do a lot of shit you otherwise would not do, only to benefit future self. Eating healthy, going to bed early, studying and doing your homework, not proscrasting at work, saying no to fun drugs, putting on a condom before you fuck this chick. All of that is hard on present self, but for the best of future self. Problem is you can only feel present self, as Peter Griffin from family guy said after making a bad decision "that's a problem for future Peter...sucks to be that guy".</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Payzmaykr 09/19/18 4:58:43 PM #44:	I dont know about meth, but many people use heroin because they get addicted to pain medicine. One more reason that we need to put a deadline on the pharmaceutical companies to come up with non narcotic pain medicine. They exist, but these people refuse to give them to us. --- Member of The Fam <cite>Payzmaykr posted [p:909070150] in What drive... [t:77019454]...</cite> <quote>I dont know about meth, but many people use heroin because they get addicted to pain medicine. One more reason that we need to put a deadline on the pharmaceutical companies to come up with non narcotic pain medicine. They exist, but these people refuse to give them to us.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
LightHawKnight 09/19/18 5:04:54 PM #45:	Humanity is rather stupid as a whole. --- The Official Odin of the Shin Megami Tensei IV board. "You know how confusing the whole good-evil concept is for me." <cite>LightHawKnight posted [p:909070505] in What drive... [t:77019454]...</cite> <quote>Humanity is rather stupid as a whole.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Balrog0 09/19/18 5:06:09 PM #46:	Omega Hunter posted... There is future self and there is present self and you need to go through life always thinking of both. However only the most intelligent of humans properly factor in future self on all decisions. Once future self is a consideration you start to do a lot of shit you otherwise would not do, only to benefit future self. Eating healthy, going to bed early, studying and doing your homework, not proscrasting at work, saying no to fun drugs, putting on a condom before you fuck this chick. All of that is hard on present self, but for the best of future self. Problem is you can only feel present self, as Peter Griffin from family guy said after making a bad decision "that's a problem for future Peter...sucks to be that guy". they say these are the habits of successful people but I work in politics and all of the players are drunk or on drugs like half of the time --- But to you who are listening I say: Love your enemies, do good to those who hate you, bless those who curse you, pray for those who mistreat you. <cite>Balrog0 posted [p:909070578] in What drive... [t:77019454]...</cite> <quote><cite>Omega Hunter posted...</cite> <quote>There is future self and there is present self and you need to go through life always thinking of both. However only the most intelligent of humans properly factor in future self on all decisions. Once future self is a consideration you start to do a lot of shit you otherwise would not do, only to benefit future self. Eating healthy, going to bed early, studying and doing your homework, not proscrasting at work, saying no to fun drugs, putting on a condom before you fuck this chick. All of that is hard on present self, but for the best of future self. Problem is you can only feel present self, as Peter Griffin from family guy said after making a bad decision "that's a problem for future Peter...sucks to be that guy".</quote> they say these are the habits of successful people but I work in politics and all of the players are drunk or on drugs like half of the time</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
mattnd2007 09/19/18 5:11:10 PM #47:	I got in an argument one time with my friend's bro. We were talking about meth. I said you're stupid AF if you try it. He got offended because he tried it. Meth is not something you "need to experience." Shrooms or acid? Fine. Weed? Absolutely. Meth? Fuck no. Do you wanna end up stealing or sucking dick for meth money? --- Show me a man who resorts to violence and I'll show you a man who's run out of good ideas Phil Funnie <cite>mattnd2007 posted [p:909070894] in What drive... [t:77019454]...</cite> <quote>I got in an argument one time with my friend's bro. We were talking about meth. I said you're stupid AF if you try it. He got offended because he tried it. Meth is not something you "need to experience." Shrooms or acid? Fine. Weed? Absolutely. Meth? Fuck no. Do you wanna end up stealing or sucking dick for meth money?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
AvlButtslam 09/19/18 5:12:22 PM #48:	There is a CEman who is open about his past meth addiction, forgot the username though. But essentially it started off with him realizing he could get the same feeling for cheaper from meth compared to his prescription ADD medication. --- Hey kiddies <cite>AvlButtslam posted [p:909070966] in What drive... [t:77019454]...</cite> <quote>There is a CEman who is open about his past meth addiction, forgot the username though. But essentially it started off with him realizing he could get the same feeling for cheaper from meth compared to his prescription ADD medication.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ShangDoh 09/19/18 5:15:05 PM #49:	My last job had me interact with plenty of meth and heroin addicts from a wide variety of backgrounds. Sometimes while riding in the back of the ambulance with them, I would ask why the ** do they keep doing this themselves? The common theme is that the high they experience is so intense and pleasurable that it's almost indescribable. Oh and also for that brief moment of euphoria, they can forget about how their lives really are. A lot of these people have managed to destroy their lives beyond repair no matter how much counseling and rehab they go through, it's pretty sad to see it in person. --- And when he gets to Heaven, to St. Peter he will tell, one more soldier reporting sir, I have served my time in hell. <cite>ShangDoh posted [p:909071124] in What drive... [t:77019454]...</cite> <quote>My last job had me interact with plenty of meth and heroin addicts from a wide variety of backgrounds. Sometimes while riding in the back of the ambulance with them, I would ask why the do they keep doing this themselves? The common theme is that the high they experience is so intense and pleasurable that it's almost indescribable. Oh and also for that brief moment of euphoria, they can forget about how ** their lives really are. A lot of these people have managed to destroy their lives beyond repair no matter how much counseling and rehab they go through, it's pretty sad to see it in person.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ChainedRedone 09/19/18 7:32:34 PM #50:	Most people who use heroin use it as a step up from an opioid. Same for meth. Someone who's been using cocaine. Also, the majority of people who try heroin or meth do not become addicted, only a fraction do just as a fraction of people who drink alcohol become addicted to alcohol. People who ruin their lives over heroin and meth do so in a way similar to people who ruin their lives with alcohol. It's surprising to me that people are so shocked when they see a heroin addict ruin their life and are completely oblivious that people have been doing this with alcohol since its inception. Besides, opioid addiction is not as destructive and harmful as alcohol addiction (unless you are IVing impure shit). For those as ignorant as the TC, here's another take on a heroin user: http://reason.com/archives/2003/06/01/h/singlepage No to underplay any addiction. Addiction is a horrible thing. But it's just funny to me when people like the TC go "Heroin addiction is so bad omfg worst thing ever why would anyone do that!?" and yet don't realize they use a substance, alcohol, which does the same exact thing. --- David Mink. Hero. https://c1.staticflickr.com/7/6043/6337878059_009dd4c4f3_z.jpg <cite>ChainedRedone posted [p:909078975] in What drive... [t:77019454]...</cite> <quote>Most people who use heroin use it as a step up from an opioid. Same for meth. Someone who's been using cocaine. Also, the majority of people who try heroin or meth do not become addicted, only a fraction do just as a fraction of people who drink alcohol become addicted to alcohol. People who ruin their lives over heroin and meth do so in a way similar to people who ruin their lives with alcohol. It's surprising to me that people are so shocked when they see a heroin addict ruin their life and are completely oblivious that people have been doing this with alcohol since its inception. Besides, opioid addiction is not as destructive and harmful as alcohol addiction (unless you are IVing impure shit). For those as ignorant as the TC, here's another take on a heroin user: http://reason.com/archives/2003/06/01/h/singlepage No to underplay any addiction. Addiction is a horrible thing. But it's just funny to me when people like the TC go "Heroin addiction is so bad omfg worst thing ever why would anyone do that!?" and yet don't realize they use a substance, alcohol, which does the same exact thing.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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