Current Events > Is transgender/non-binary political power a little disproportionate?

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AmericaTheBrave
09/24/18 11:17:17 AM
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Transgenders and non-binary genders are 1% of 1% of the population. How is it that they are wielding so much influence?
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MorbidFaithless
09/24/18 11:18:33 AM
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Who say they are? Influencing what? What are you talking about?
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EliteLevel
09/24/18 11:19:11 AM
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Evidence of your claims, TC.
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NeonOctopus
09/24/18 11:21:19 AM
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EliteLevel posted...
Evidence of your claims, TC.

The Bowsette meme exploding in popularity
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Lorenzo_2003
09/24/18 11:21:58 AM
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Is it really one percent? I thought it would be much lower than that. Either way, yeah, it's disproportionate. But, ehh, this is one of those topics that it's better not to talk about or we risk punishment.
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averagejoel
09/24/18 11:24:34 AM
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this is going to turn into another version of "jews control the media" i can feel it right now

anyway, no. if anything, it's disproportionately small
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Garioshi
09/24/18 11:26:00 AM
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AmericaTheBrave posted...
Transgenders and non-binary genders are 1% of 1% of the population. How is it that they are wielding so much influence?

If that's the case, shouldn't we have 5 of them in Congress?
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Anarchy_Juiblex
09/24/18 11:30:14 AM
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Can't they still be fired just for being trans in most states, have limited roles in the military, have issues with being sent to the "wrong" prison, and a host of other problems?
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averagejoel
09/24/18 11:36:12 AM
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Anarchy_Juiblex posted...
Can't they still be fired just for being trans in most states, have limited roles in the military, have issues with being sent to the "wrong" prison, and a host of other problems?

how do you decide which issues to have a good take on, which issues to have a somewhat reasonable take on, and which issues to have a completely batshit crazy take on? it's really baffling to me
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Anarchy_Juiblex
09/24/18 11:41:31 AM
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I'm an individualist that doesn't get his entire belief set spoon fed to him. I'm basically a moderate liberal.
I'm also a proud secular patriot that respects the accomplishments of this country (U.S.) and Western philosophy (free expression, rule of law, etc) as a whole. This informs most of my beliefs and makes my leanings fairly easy to follow if you actually listen.

Or I roll a d20 and compare the results to a shit post table.
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creativerealms
09/24/18 11:43:07 AM
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Yeah having zero power is unfair. Oh wait you think they have any power. Let me laugh.
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AmericaTheBrave
09/24/18 11:45:02 AM
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Garioshi posted...
AmericaTheBrave posted...
Transgenders and non-binary genders are 1% of 1% of the population. How is it that they are wielding so much influence?

If that's the case, shouldn't we have 5 of them in Congress?


I didn't say 1%, I said 1% OF 1%.

Anarchy_Juiblex posted...
Can't they still be fired just for being trans in most states, have limited roles in the military, have issues with being sent to the "wrong" prison, and a host of other problems?


All that is bad of course, but it seems trans rights dominate a lot of the political conversation, especially left-wing. And their population is so tiny, it just seems weird to focus so much on it.
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Tappor
09/24/18 11:47:24 AM
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NeonOctopus posted...
EliteLevel posted...
Evidence of your claims, TC.

The Bowsette meme exploding in popularity

This tbh
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Alpha218
09/24/18 12:01:35 PM
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Im really curious whose alt this is
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Hinakuluiau
09/24/18 12:06:49 PM
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Anarchy_Juiblex posted...
I'm an individualist that doesn't get his entire belief set spoon fed to him. I'm basically a moderate liberal.

Never understood this line of thinking. A lot of people are like this too, it's not like they just wake up deciding they're going to hate abortion just because they also like the 2nd Amendment and that's what the GOP says.

AmericaTheBrave posted...
And their population is so tiny, it just seems weird to focus so much on it.

One does not have to be trans to be aware that they face discrimination and want to fix it.
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Medussa
09/24/18 12:19:21 PM
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Megaman50100
09/24/18 12:22:40 PM
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Hinakuluiau posted...
it's not like they just wake up deciding they're going to hate abortion just because they also like the 2nd Amendment and that's what the GOP says.

I know plenty of people like this, its basically how parties exist in the first place.
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Hinakuluiau
09/24/18 12:39:24 PM
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Megaman50100 posted...
I know plenty of people like this, its basically how parties exist in the first place.

No, parties exist because groups are stronger than individuals.
If I am pro-2nd Amendment and don't have a strong opinion on abortion, and you are pro-life with no strong opinion on the 2nd Amendment, we can double our votes for the things we care about because we're willing to "trade" on the other stuff we don't care about

Parties also exist for voters to immediately know a lot about a candidate. We can stereotype them based off of their party affiliation instead of having to research literally everything about them.

I think the idea that we're special because we all have individual beliefs and don't go down the party line is basically "I'm 14 and this is deep" because a lot of people actually genuinely agree with a lot of what the party believes. It just reeks of people trying to feel superior "Oh I'm an individualist that doesn't get his entire belief set spoon fed to him. I'm basically a moderate liberal." GTFOutta here man, congrats you're like millions of others, they just happen to fall under most of a specific party's beliefs
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averagejoel
09/24/18 12:45:04 PM
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AmericaTheBrave posted...
All that is bad of course, but it seems trans rights dominate a lot of the political conversation, especially left-wing. And their population is so tiny, it just seems weird to focus so much on it.

that does not equate to trans and nonbinary people having tons of political power
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Dyinglegacy
09/24/18 12:48:43 PM
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I never hear of them, or the power they wield (lol?) outside of gamefaqs.
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rikasa
09/24/18 12:49:52 PM
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They're just a politically convenient group for internet leftists. Neither groups really intersect with reality.
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Megaman50100
09/24/18 1:19:55 PM
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Hinakuluiau posted...
No, parties exist because groups are stronger than individuals....

My statement wasn't explaining why parties existed, I was attributing a persons willingness to adhere to beliefs that come as the package deal with their party as to the mechanism that allows parties to thrive. I'm saying that a lot of people will come to a conclusion on an issue through their own consideration, align themselves to a party with that similar conclusion, but will often be influenced on a myriad of other issues through party-ties rather than their own consideration. Such as developing a moral stance that leans you to one party on abortion, and then adopting the economic policy of the same party through association rather than consideration.

I see this a lot through people being well-read and convicted about some aspects of their party that they champion, while being adherents to other aspects of the party and seemingly not sure why besides surface level ideology.
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AmericaTheBrave
09/24/18 3:39:54 PM
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Is Democrats focusing so much on transgender rights alienating people? Trans rights isn't relevant to 99.9999% of the population yet the discourse dominates.
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hockeybub89
09/24/18 3:40:45 PM
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DarkTransient
09/24/18 3:41:02 PM
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Transgender is more common than you think. Non-binary doesn't exist outside of edgy 12 year olds on Tumblr so no need to pay it any attention.
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GiftedACIII
09/24/18 3:49:05 PM
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AmericaTheBrave posted...
Is Democrats focusing so much on transgender rights alienating people? Trans rights isn't relevant to 99.9999% of the population yet the discourse dominates.

It's about civil rights, which are always a minority in percentages, something you're clearly against. inb4 you pull out an arbitrary percentage that suddenly matters to you. Also, it's *are democrats
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