Current Events > Just saw Rise of Skywalker. Fairly average, sadly. So many problems. *spoilers*

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Sunhawk
12/24/19 11:26:45 AM
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I did enjoy it, and certainly some parts were really good fun / cool, but...by SW standards, it wasn't particularly great. I would rank it near the bottom of the 9 films. Well, these were my problems.

Rey is the granddaughter of Palpatine? Is EVERYONE in these films related, or rather, secretly related to each other? Also, what the fuck had we never heard about Palpatine having a daughter before? Why doesn't she have amazing Sith powers?

The massive fleet, that Palpatine had secretly constructed. There must've been dozens of full-size destroyers.

The way the massive fleet each have a Death Star-level weapon, despite the fact they're regular ships, not the Death Star.

How pretty much every romantic subplot established so far was dropped, or seriously scaled back. Rey-Finn, not addressed at all. Rose-Finn, not addressed at all. Kylo-Rose, barely dealt with. Wtf.

Remind me- how did Palpatine survive? I know he was basically Zombie Palpatine now, but...this wasn't even talked about.

Why did Palpatine, and other cool characters, get so little screentime?

Why did we need to have SO many locations crammed into the film? Why was that even neccesary?

So, in Episode 8, the call for help from the Resistance was COMPLETELY ignored, but when the Resistance does another, very similar call for help, every guy and girl who owns a starship turns up? The fuck?

Why was Lando even in this film? He wasn't neccesary, and barely even did anything!

A bunch of dead Snokes were stashed in some glass container, with little to no explanation.

Too many boring, or unnecesary (or both) scenes.

Well.

Don't get me wrong. I basically enjoyed it. It was better than some films. It was still (slightly) better than The Phantom Menace, but...so many bits that made no sense, such OTT storytelling.


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Sunhawk
12/24/19 11:46:51 AM
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Nobody wants to join in the Star Wars bashing? This is a red letter day for CE.

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Akagami_Shanks
12/24/19 11:49:15 AM
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Kylo-Rose?

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ZevLoveDOOM
12/24/19 11:50:56 AM
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i also saw Rise of the Skylanders recently...

while it wasnt terrible, i didnt care much for it. lots of stuff that didnt make sense or was flatout stupid.

not to mention the amount of clichs. specially near the end. god was this boring!

The Mandalorian is way more entertaining to watch than this dreck.
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Sunhawk
12/24/19 11:51:37 AM
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Kylo-Rey, sorry.

Do you know what might've made the film great? A Rey-Rose love scene. Full nudity.

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sLaCkEr408___RJ
12/24/19 11:52:35 AM
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The Force isn't genetic. Powers and potential isn't inherited by offspring. This is a Skywalker only trait.
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Lairen
12/24/19 11:53:11 AM
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Nothings built up. It just happens. Over three films things go like:

-New badass snoke is huge!
-Hes not huge and now dead
-Hes not really anybody.

Or

-Kylo struggles with being bad. Kills dad.
-Hes committed to the darkside. Kills Snoke.
-Hes a good guy and dead.

Things just happen.

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ZevLoveDOOM
12/24/19 11:53:47 AM
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i had a glimmer of hope that both Rey and Kylo would have died at the end. that would make the ending somewhat interesting.

but alas, as soon as i saw Kylo coming out of that hole, i was like "oh right, i forgot: this is Disney!" -_-
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HBOSS
12/24/19 12:06:32 PM
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i want to see the roadmap to these sequels. kylo ren best character in sequel trilogy
rey was tap dancing everything so well
finn and poe had such promise and potential yet were demoted to background important support characters.

star wars cannot do force movies and tell a story about state affairs together. everything about the force eclipses the ragtag group of freedom fighters. disney must go one way to address the force and another to world build a galaxy far far away


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EzeDoesIt
12/24/19 12:10:14 PM
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Sunhawk posted...
Do you know what might've made the film great? A Rey-Rose love scene. Full nudity.

all in the deleted scenes apparently

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Buzz Killjoy
12/24/19 12:11:01 PM
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sLaCkEr408___RJ posted...
The Force isn't genetic. Powers and potential isn't inherited by offspring. This is a Skywalker only trait.

This is kinda contradicted by the idea that Yoda's race is generally Force-sensitive.

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Shadowplay
12/24/19 12:15:57 PM
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It was pretty goddamn soulless. For all the flaws of the prequels, at least I can remember what happened in them.

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XXmiznatorXX
12/24/19 12:23:18 PM
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Sunhawk posted...
Nobody wants to join in the Star Wars bashing? This is a red letter day for CE.
I think cause its been beat and tired to death. The sequels just ...exist. But its like once you see it, you just forget about it. Odd for a Star Wars movie, but the movie has fallen victim to modern Hollywood syndrome; cool action, no plot, totally forgettable.
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LameFAQs
12/24/19 12:38:29 PM
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sLaCkEr408___RJ posted...
The Force isn't genetic. Powers and potential isn't inherited by offspring. This is a Skywalker only trait.

this is sort of off topic, but do they ever explain Anakins backstory more? I might have to rewatch episode 1 again, but I dont recall them talking about his father. Did he have the force as well?
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Blue_Inigo
12/24/19 12:40:21 PM
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LameFAQs posted...
this is sort of off topic, but do they ever explain Anakins backstory more? I might have to rewatch episode 1 again, but I dont recall them talking about his father. Did he have the force as well?
He doesnt have a father. His mom got magically pregnant

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LameFAQs
12/24/19 12:41:05 PM
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Blue_Inigo posted...
He doesnt have a father. His mom got magically pregnant

That seems like a big piece that I shouldnt have forgotten lol. I need to go and watch phantom menace again..
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OrdonGoatCheese
12/24/19 12:42:27 PM
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Does CE always have 500 or so topics for the same film when it comes out?

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HBOSS
12/24/19 12:44:08 PM
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midiclorians create life ep. 1
implied Anakin was a child of the force. quigon jinn take Anakin as the chosen one.
Darth Sidious has been monitoring Anakin for more than the childs life.
He purposely involves himself with Anakin to take the Sith to galactic rule.

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CM_Ponch
12/24/19 1:10:05 PM
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ZevLoveDOOM posted...
i had a glimmer of hope that both Rey and Kylo would have died at the end. that would make the ending somewhat interesting.

but alas, as soon as i saw Kylo coming out of that hole, i was like "oh right, i forgot: this is Disney!" -_-
But Kylo died <_<

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Ving_Rhames
12/24/19 1:11:33 PM
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Because Palpatine was only in it for trailer hype lol, just like "Dark Rey".

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UnholyMudcrab
12/24/19 1:13:34 PM
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LameFAQs posted...
I need to go and watch phantom menace again..

No, no you don't
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sLaCkEr408___RJ
12/24/19 1:41:51 PM
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Buzz Killjoy posted...
This is kinda contradicted by the idea that Yoda's race is generally Force-sensitive.
Is this a Disney thing? Or Whills?
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EzeDoesIt
12/24/19 2:27:00 PM
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LameFAQs posted...
this is sort of off topic, but do they ever explain Anakins backstory more? I might have to rewatch episode 1 again, but I dont recall them talking about his father. Did he have the force as well?

SPOILERS for the canon Disney Darth Vader comics:

Darth Sidious used The Force to impregnate Shmi with Anakin.

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DespondentDeity
12/24/19 3:01:23 PM
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Man I was laughing my ass off during most of this movie.

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Parappa09
12/24/19 3:04:28 PM
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Ving_Rhames posted...
Because Palpatine was only in it for trailer hype lol, just like "Dark Rey".
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ZevLoveDOOM
12/24/19 3:04:36 PM
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its fine if you enjoyed Rise of the Skallywags. not everyone has to like the same stuff you know... lol
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Monolith1676
12/24/19 3:19:22 PM
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The Palpatine reveal reminds me of the Vince Ministry of Darkness reveal. They were both equally terrible.

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codey
12/24/19 3:26:01 PM
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I'm not gonna address all your points, just gonna say that "by star wars standards it wasn't particularly great" must mean it's pretty terrible since there's only been one actually good SW movie since the 80s.

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ZevLoveDOOM
12/24/19 3:28:19 PM
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this trilogy so far to me has felt like a worse remake of the original with some different stuff and a plethora of inconsistencies here and there...

for what its worth tho, i'll take it over the prequels. lol
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