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hockeybub89
05/18/20 1:41:34 PM
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https://www.cnn.com/2020/05/18/politics/trump-us-death-toll-blame-reopen/index.html

"Unfortunately the American population is ... very diverse," Azar told CNN's Jake Tapper on "State of the Union."

"It is a population with significant unhealthy comorbidities that do make many individuals in our communities, in particular African American, minority communities particularly at risk here because of significant underlying disease health disparities and disease comorbidities -- and that is an unfortunate legacy in our health care system that we certainly do need to address."

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Talk2DaHand
05/18/20 1:44:03 PM
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Poverty creates unhealthier populations, who would've thunk

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UnholyMudcrab
05/18/20 1:47:21 PM
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hockeybub89 posted...
"Unfortunately the American population is ... very diverse,"

Republican ideology in a nutshell
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Doom_Art
05/18/20 1:48:08 PM
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"Why don't African Americans want to vote for our party?" - Confused Republicans

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Lost_All_Senses
05/18/20 1:49:31 PM
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How dare they become sick from the conditions the white community forced them into!

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The_Bitcoin
05/18/20 1:49:40 PM
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hockeybub89 posted...
https://www.cnn.com/2020/05/18/politics/trump-us-death-toll-blame-reopen/index.html

"Unfortunately the American population is ... very diverse,"

HOLLY MOLLY.

you could take this quote and tell people this is what the 3rd reich responded to how they felt about America and people would believe it.

the GOP is no longer trying to hide that they see the existence of minorities as a problem that needs to be fixed.

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The_Bitcoin
05/18/20 1:50:17 PM
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Someone bring this up next time the orange guy says what do you have to lose?
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Phantom_Nook
05/18/20 1:50:32 PM
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hockeybub89 posted...
and that is an unfortunate legacy in our health care system that we certainly do need to address."
Trump is trying to address this by destroying the health care system during a pandemic.

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hockeybub89
05/18/20 1:50:38 PM
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I also don't know how "this virus is killing lots of people because they are unhealthy" is somehow a justification to not care if it kills hundreds of thousands, but there I go having empathy again.

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MabusIncarnate
05/18/20 1:51:23 PM
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Those poor, fat people should really go to whole foods and spend $90 on 3 meals

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Talk2DaHand
05/18/20 1:52:44 PM
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The_Bitcoin posted...
HOLLY MOLLY.

you could take this quote and tell people this is what the 3rd reich responded to how they felt about America and people would believe it.

the GOP is no longer trying to hide that they see the existence of minorities as a problem that needs to be fixed.

What's the full quote? He just paused or was something edited?

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IMNOTRAGED
05/18/20 1:54:42 PM
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Sounds like a quote taken out of context.

But either way, y'all really thought it was a coincidence that red hats started going over the top with the reopen bs as soon as reports started coming out that black people were disproportionately affected by this?

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The_Bitcoin
05/18/20 1:56:34 PM
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Talk2DaHand posted...
What's the full quote? He just paused or was something edited?

look for the post I quoted ITT

IMNOTRAGED posted...
Sounds like a quote taken out of context.

But either way, y'all really thought it was a coincidence that red hats started going over the top with the reopen bs as soon as reports started coming out that black people were disproportionately affected by this?

this crossed my mind. They found out the essential workers were mainly minorities and they went full HURR DURR REOPEN! Notice how the people who went to the reopen Michigan thing brought confederate and Nazi flags? Yeah

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Akagami_Shanks
05/18/20 1:57:19 PM
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*googles quote*

turns out it is not paraphrased... he actually said that lmao

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hockeybub89
05/18/20 1:58:27 PM
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Talk2DaHand posted...
What's the full quote? He just paused or was something edited?
https://www.cnn.com/2020/05/17/politics/us-health- conditions-coronavirus-alex-azar-cnntv/index.html

Video is here. The quoted pause doesn't even exist. He said exactly what was quoted.

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Heavy_D_Forever
05/18/20 1:59:30 PM
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The wording he used could have been better but I've even heard liberal news outlets report that African Americans are at a higher risk for covid.

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Awesome
05/18/20 2:00:01 PM
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Azar isnt trump administration, hes just on the task force, trump will probably boot him.
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P4wn4g3
05/18/20 2:01:49 PM
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Hm maybe Trump has some sort of great solution to this diverse problem

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COVxy
05/18/20 2:01:56 PM
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There's nothing particularly wrong with his statements other than the fact that the administration has been fighting against affordable and accessible healthcare under the guise of freedom.

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hockeybub89
05/18/20 2:03:04 PM
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Heavy_D_Forever posted...
The wording he used could have been better but I've even heard liberal news outlets report that African Americans are at a higher risk for covid.
Are liberal sources shrugging their shoulders, praising Trump for it not being worse, and placing blame everywhere except on the government?

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Lordofkhyber
05/18/20 2:04:51 PM
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COVxy posted...
There's nothing particularly wrong with his statements

Holy shit yes there is

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hockeybub89
05/18/20 2:06:09 PM
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COVxy posted...
There's nothing particularly wrong with his statements other than the fact that the administration has been fighting against affordable and accessible healthcare under the guise of freedom, so if he is part of that, it's a bit hypocritical.
It's no more right than people who cite real statistics to push some fake bullshit. This is just another transparent attempt to deflect responsibility so we can continue ignoring the pandemic in the name of the economy. Statistics are dangerous in the wrong hands.

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Bishop9800
05/18/20 2:06:14 PM
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COVxy posted...
There's nothing particularly wrong with his statements

I wad wondering when someone was going to defend this..


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CADE FOSTER
05/18/20 2:17:46 PM
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UnholyMudcrab posted...


Republican ideology in a nutshell
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COVxy
05/18/20 2:18:44 PM
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hockeybub89 posted...
It's no more right than people who cite real statistics to push some fake bullshit. This is just another transparent attempt to deflect responsibility so we can continue ignoring the pandemic in the name of the economy. Statistics are dangerous in the wrong hands.

But health crises are literally more difficult to deal with and treat with a more diverse population. Diversity in comorbidity and different susceptibility means that you need to treat differentially, which is both more expensive and harder to do. Like that's a very big point of a lot of the diversity initiatives in the medical community.

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Bishop9800
05/18/20 2:20:11 PM
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COVxy posted...
But health crises are literally more difficult to deal with and treat with a more diverse population. Diversity in comorbidity and different susceptibility means that you need to treat differentially, which is both more expensive and harder to do. Like that's a very big point of a lot of the diversity initiatives in the medical community.

And here comes someone defending this shit

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hockeybub89
05/18/20 2:21:15 PM
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COVxy posted...
But health crises are literally more difficult to deal with and treat with a more diverse population. Diversity in comorbidity and different susceptibility means that you need to treat differentially, which is both more expensive and harder to do. Like that's a very big point of a lot of the diversity initiatives in the medical community.
Oh so we're pretending that Azar meant this from a place of science and genuine concern rather than absolving Trump of responsibility.

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COVxy
05/18/20 2:24:16 PM
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hockeybub89 posted...
Oh so we're pretending that Azar meant this from a place of science and genuine concern rather than absolving Trump of responsibility.

Seems more likely than people taking his use of the phrase 'diverse' and extending it to the 3rd reich, by removing the context.

Especially since it's kinda actually what he stated!

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EndOfDiscOne
05/18/20 2:25:14 PM
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Serious question, is it believed that one reason black people are getting hit so hard because of inherent biological reasons (skin color making vitamin D deficiency more likely) or is it all related to poverty?

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Mezcla
05/18/20 2:26:31 PM
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sorry guys :(

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Maze_
05/18/20 2:27:48 PM
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COVxy posted...
There's nothing particularly wrong with his statements
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Prismsblade
05/18/20 2:28:30 PM
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Looks like decades worth of progressives pushing for fat acceptance has backfired immensely when virus like covid 19 doesnt give two fucks how beautiful you are on the inside when you're obses.

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Bananana
05/18/20 2:29:09 PM
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EndOfDiscOne posted...
Serious question, is it believed that one reason black people are getting hit so hard because of inherent biological reasons (skin color making vitamin D deficiency more likely) or is it all related to poverty?
Poverty; less access to medical care, less ability to not work/stay home. All of which are a result of shitbags like the guy who said this, Trump, and every other racist pos in our history who disenfranchises people to get theirs

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hockeybub89
05/18/20 2:37:42 PM
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COVxy posted...
Seems more likely than people taking his use of the phrase 'diverse' and extending it to the 3rd reich, by removing the context.

Especially since it's kinda actually what he stated!
I don't think he was being a Nazi. I think he was just cheerleading Trump and adding another new scapegoat to put more distance between Trump and blame. The real science is just window dressing to validate the response. "It's so hard and the President is doing his best." Everything is only used for that endgame in this administration.

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IMNOTRAGED
05/18/20 2:38:58 PM
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Prismsblade posted...
Looks like decades worth of progressives pushing for fat acceptance has backfired immensely when virus like covid 19 doesnt give two fucks how beautiful you are on the inside when you're obses.

Imagine actually posting a take this dumb

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COVxy
05/18/20 2:39:50 PM
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It seems to me that there are so many bad takes and shitty misinformation coming out of this administration, it's probably not worth your time to harp on one that is actually valid and deserves some consideration, simply because it's easy to make it sound bad.

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The_Bitcoin
05/18/20 2:40:07 PM
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@Sexypwnstar , thoughts?
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Zack_Attackv1
05/18/20 2:40:48 PM
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Prismsblade
05/18/20 2:43:06 PM
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IMNOTRAGED posted...
Imagine actually posting a take this dumb
When cant reality be dumb?

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ThePrinceFish
05/18/20 2:45:08 PM
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IMNOTRAGED posted...
Imagine actually posting a take this dumb
There's a guy in here ranting about the Third Reich and that's the post you lock in on?

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Ving_Rhames
05/18/20 2:46:17 PM
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Prismsblade posted...
When cant reality be dumb?

lol, thinking theres a correlation between fat acceptance bullshit and black american obesity rates is an alternative reality if Ive ever seen one.

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AceAttorneyist
05/18/20 3:11:22 PM
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Ving_Rhames posted...
lol, thinking theres a correlation between fat acceptance bullshit and black american obesity rates is an alternative reality if Ive ever seen one.

I wouldn't be remotely surprised if it was a contributing factor, however small.

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Prismsblade
05/18/20 3:42:37 PM
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Ving_Rhames posted...
lol, thinking theres a correlation between fat acceptance bullshit and black american obesity rates is an alternative reality if Ive ever seen one.
I was speaking more so in general terms. With which why cant there be a correlation? Obesity isnt seen in a negative light anymore, and healthy products, ads, and people are shamed more then ever now. This wouldnt be possible without the medias help and fat acceptance.

Victoria Secrets for instance has all but completely given up on the western market.

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