Current Events > Gameplay elements in games this Gen that you wish would fuck off?

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*excessive padding/filler/gating content off just to pad out length. This speaks to so many games, from Assassins creed Odyssey to ff7 remake. So many games have pointless busy work side content that just isn't fun.

*over-reliance on crafting systems in rpgs. It kinda takes away from the fun of exploring to know there's no real point to it since you won't really find any cool loot since everything worth a damn is crafted.

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Always online required for single player mode

Honestly, fuck off.

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pinky0926 posted...

Always online required for single player mode

Honestly, fuck off.

Oh fuck yeah, that shit is beyond dumb.

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Came in to say crafting

And sup man, surviving okay?

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Pinotage posted...

Came in to say crafting

And sup man, surviving okay?

Better than most are I'm sure, still working and still breathing, can't complain. I work and then party with my roommate like we're 20 again, not much else to do lol. Listening to glassjaw at work now as we speak.

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Everything RNG
Everything p2w

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- Always online required for single player mode
- need to do side quests to continue the story
- no map
- weapons that have level if you low level you can't use it
- level for everything like assassin's Creed odessey
- cannot continue story if low level
- cannot run or jump in some game
- long grind just to level up
- rng
- p2w

The list I hate in game
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Blew my mind Glassjaw and Head Automatica were fronted by the same man.

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Pinotage posted...

Blew my mind Glassjaw and Head Automatica were fronted by the same man.

I've been on a post hardcore type kick lately. Boy hits car, at the drive in, glassjaw, Thursday, etc..


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pinky0926 posted...

Always online required for single player mode

Honestly, fuck off.

Jesus Christ what the hell is that a thing O_o ?!

Noumas posted...

Jesus Christ what the hell is that a thing O_o ?!

So that they can collect big data from you while attempting to use DRM to verify your purchase, obviously


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Aki_Sora posted...

- Always online required for single player mode
- need to do side quests to continue the story
- no map
- weapons that have level if you low level you can't use it
- level for everything like assassin's Creed odessey
- cannot continue story if low level
- cannot run or jump in some game
- long grind just to level up
- rng
- p2w

The list I hate in game

Lol most of those apply to Assassins creed Odyssey. I'm a huge fan of the series, but that game annoyed the fuck out of me when I finally beat it and looked back at my time with it. Origins was a significantly better game in almost every way and I'm glad the guys who did that are doing Valhalla.

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Open world as standard. Fuck offfff

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Remember United Nations, the supergroup founded by Geoff Rickly?

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CleanerIGotThis posted...

Open world as standard. Fuck offfff

I adore open world games, but so many games make themselves open world for no goddamn reason and fill it with padding. It's like devs forget you can make games pseudo open world so that the world feels large and open but everything is contained and concise. Fable games are pseudo open world, FF7R is pseudo open world.

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Pinotage posted...

Remember United Nations, the supergroup founded by Geoff Rickly?

Holy fuck, now I do. I remember buying that album when it came out lol. I still remember going to a concert that was Thursday, taking back Sunday, blink 182, and cypress Hill, really odd blending of artists but it was fun.

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All games with some sort of grind that can be shortened or skipped with microtransactions.

The obsession with open world games. It works well for sandbox games and some rare exceptions like BOTW. But in general they suck, give me a well crafted linear experience please.

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Rika_Furude posted...

All games with some sort of grind that can be shortened or skipped with microtransactions

"time-savers" are arguably the most egregious type of micro transactions, because they basically say that the game is intentionally hamstrung and gated by needless grind.

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Rika_Furude posted...

All games with some sort of grind that can be shortened or skipped with microtransactions.

The obsession with open world games. It works well for sandbox games and some rare exceptions like BOTW. But in general they suck, give me a well crafted linear experience please.

That's why jedi fallen order is so funny, it's not an amazing game, it's simply a decent, fun game. What made it so appealing is that it was just a concise, simple, single player game with no bullshit and no padding. A rarity today.

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Permadeath.

If I wanted consequence for my own recklessness and stupidity, I'd go outside.

*too much realism. RDR2 was held back tremendously by this.


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-Dialogue branches that drastically affect the story and don't make that clear enough when you choose them.

-Open-world that solely exists to pad time out between main story missions.


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I think a lot of these are part of a bigger trend of mindlessly putting MMO mechanics in a single player game without understanding why they don't necessarily translate.

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Tutorials that overstay their welcome. Give me a screenshot of the controller layout and then fuck off, please.
Every developer just assumes anyone playing their game is an idiot these days.

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games that punish you for good play, and games that reward you for awful play

shifting meta to allow p2w

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DocDelicious posted...

Tutorials that overstay their welcome. Give me a screenshot of the controller layout and then fuck off, please.
Every developer just assumes anyone playing their game is an idiot these days.

I liked when FarCry Blood Dragon parodied this and had the main character losing his shit at the babby's first game tutorial.

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I am getting a bit tired of nearly every single AAA game having XP/ability points, gear and crafting. It's just bland at this point. It's almost seen as a necessity for some reason.

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Crafting being in everything is my biggest pet peeve

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Having to purchase a pass for half the price of a game so you can have a limited amount of time to earn the things you bought

ssjevot posted...

I think a lot of these are part of a bigger trend of mindlessly putting MMO mechanics in a single player game without understanding why they don't necessarily translate.

Ubisoft has been particularly guilty of "mmo-ifying" their games.

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Darmik posted...

I am getting a bit tired of nearly every single AAA game having XP/ability points, gear and crafting. It's just bland at this point. It's almost seen as a necessity for some reason.

It's all padding. Games for some reason need to flaunt obscenely long play times, yet in most cases, it's like 8 hours of story and 52 hours of padding.

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ultimate reaver posted...

Crafting being in everything is my biggest pet peeve

Yeah, I'm just kind of over crafting being the only real option. I miss actual loot, that feeling of killing a boss or going deep into a tomb or something and getting a really cool weapon or piece of armor or something. Crafting just isn't the same. As much as I love Witcher 3, even it is guilty of this.

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Loot drop systems, at least poorly implemented ones where I have to open the menu every few minutes to compare. It gets to a point where I'll just go thru half the game with poor equipment because I'm tired of checking.

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pres_madagascar posted...

It's all padding. Games for some reason need to flaunt obscenely long play times, yet in most cases, it's like 8 hours of story and 52 hours of padding.

It's even in smaller scale games like God of War, Tomb Raider, Evil Within 2, Control, Doom etc.

It's almost universal.

Loot that's just damage modifiers are so boring too.

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- have stamina bar
- have durability weapons.
- cannot swim

Fuck those things
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pinky0926 posted...

Always online required for single player mode

Honestly, fuck off.

This so much

i cant even play 2 games I own because I refuse to pay for online service

repairing gear
fall damage

Reis posted...

repairing gear
fall damage

This always amused me how in Witcher 3, a fall greater than 4 feet will kill geralt. And in ass creed Odyssey, they start you out with fall damage, but offer you an upgrade ability to remove it, essentially more goddamn padding.

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• A moveable cursor for inventory management , especially when pressing the dpad would be so much quicker
• Holding the button to do an action when a single button press would suffice, ie choosing something or picking something up.

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pinky0926 posted...

Always online required for single player mode

Honestly, fuck off.

This never annoyed me until the Rockstar Games Launcher became integral with Steam.

That fucker goes offline and keeps you out of GTA V/RDR2 all the fucking time now.

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Oh man I just encountered one that should indeed fuck off.

The 'run around this glowing circle on your minimap and find the thing that lets you progress the mission'

Who finds these fun? There's usually nothing else going on but running around blindly until you finally get the dumb notification you've found it. It's often tied to some detective vision (which is another thing way too many games rely on and should fuck off) thing too.

To a lesser extent the 'follow the glowing footprints for ages while nothing else happens' is played out too.

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Darmik posted...

Oh man I just encountered one that should indeed fuck off.

The 'run around this glowing circle on your minimap and find the thing that lets you progress the mission'

Who finds these fun? There's usually nothing else going on but running around blindly until you finally get the dumb notification you've found it. It's often tied to some detective vision (which is another thing way too many games rely on and should fuck off) thing too.

To a lesser extent the 'follow the glowing footprints for ages while nothing else happens' is played out too.

That's straight up MMO design.

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When you're forced to pretty much slow walk your character through a cutscene. Like the opening of Arkham Asylum.

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Cooking.

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Making minigames out of basic things like cooking. I shouldn't need to get a perfect score cracking an egg to get my damn meal.

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squeezing between a crack in the wall. literally every single game does this now and its dumb

edit: i know its for hiding loading but they could be a lil more creative

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StucklnMyPants posted...

* A moveable cursor for inventory management , especially when pressing the dpad would be so much quicker
* Holding the button to do an action when a single button press would suffice, ie choosing something or picking something up.

Both of those are why no man's sky on console is just... I mean I bought it a few months ago and while the play loop is fine, it's tedious having to hold to confirm you're opening up the buy or sell menu. And of course you have to move the cursor over it instead of the d-pad

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Progress being blocked by a door or whatever that won't open until the characters are finished talking. I'm fine if it's a cutscene, but it's when you're just sitting there in game waiting that I have a problem with.