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voldothegr8
10/29/20 10:22:49 AM
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https://happymag.tv/dragonforce-guitarist-twitch-ban/

Twitch continues its DMCA takedown rampage, this time suspending the channel of DragonForce guitarist Herman Li for playing his own music.

Twitch has recently been busy with its comically oversized takedown hammer, smashing thousands of channels for their unsanctioned use of copyrighted music under the auspices of the Digital Millennium Copyright Act.

Now, its wrath has been seemingly misapplied to a well known artist, guitarist Herman Li of DragonForce, who has shifted his streaming activities over to the bands YouTube channel.

Li has been major supporter of music streaming on Twitch, going so far as to give fellow streamers blanket permission to reproduce anything from DragonForces Maximum Overload, Reaching Into Infinity, and Extreme Power Metal albums without fear of DMCA-fuelled repercussions.

Li himself is (or was) a frequent Twitch streamer, where he could often be found shredding on his guitar, playing games, and chatting with fellow musicians, among other things.
While Twitch has not revealed any official reason for the suspension of Lis channel, plenty of industry commentators have naturally suspected that it has fallen victim to the merciless automated DMCA takedown system, which offers creators no means of disputing or appealing bans to save their content.

I had no idea Twitch was cracking down on music this hard, but LOL they need a better system than bots with no way to appeal.
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RedJackson
10/29/20 10:23:31 AM
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Lmao.. what?

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Funkydog
10/29/20 10:24:25 AM
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Disgusting. I hope Herman seeks permission from Li to do play his music.

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Unsugarized_Foo
10/29/20 10:24:26 AM
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Odds are the AI malfunctioned trying to decipher the shear amount of shread

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Irony
10/29/20 10:25:26 AM
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He should sue

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RedJackson
10/29/20 10:30:14 AM
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Funkydog posted...
Disgusting. I hope Herman seeks permission from Li to do play his music.

Herman & Li: Law Associates


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eston
10/29/20 10:33:23 AM
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While Twitch has not revealed any official reason for the suspension of Lis channel, plenty of industry commentators have naturally suspected that it has fallen victim to the merciless automated DMCA takedown system, which offers creators no means of disputing or appealing bans to save their content.
I feel like they maybe should have put this at the beginning so that I, the reader, am aware that the article is speculation

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voldothegr8
10/29/20 10:35:40 AM
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eston posted...
I feel like they maybe should have put this at the beginning so that I, the reader, am aware that the article is speculation

There's literally no other reason to suspend him other than DMCA, which apparently Twitch has been cracking down on lately. Still speculation yes, but highly probable speculation.
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WipWinkle
10/29/20 10:37:36 AM
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It's actually fairly common for musicians on Twitch to be hit by their own DMCAs or even DMCAs they never asked to give out.

Twitch is really that serious with DMCAing music. Even if you are a musician who doesn't mind it, you can get hit by your own DMCAs.

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Choco
10/29/20 10:39:06 AM
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same shit's happened on youtube several times it really shouldn't be a surprise to anyone

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IMNOTRAGED
10/29/20 10:44:40 AM
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Playing music during a twitch stream should fall under fair use anyway. Making DMCA claims in this fashion are like, only a half step away from going at someone for playing music while they have friends over.

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supercrono
10/29/20 10:45:34 AM
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This is doubly funny because DragonForce is one of their top partners, and even RECORDED THEIR LAST ALBUM LIVE ON TWITCH. This isn't just a dude with a channel, this is one of their brand ambassadors being forced off the platform.

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ToPoPO
10/29/20 10:48:16 AM
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IMNOTRAGED posted...
Playing music during a twitch stream should fall under fair use anyway. Making DMCA claims in this fashion are like, only a half step away from going at someone for playing music while they have friends over.

Movies too
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Musourenka
10/29/20 10:49:15 AM
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I bet he's going to take Twitch through the fire and flames.

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Alteres
10/29/20 11:06:35 AM
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How does that work for streamers and movies, I have heard of a few doing watch alongs but I havent ever checked one out.

The idea seems like it is just asking for trouble though.

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Funkydog
10/29/20 11:07:44 AM
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Alteres posted...
How does that work for streamers and movies, I have heard of a few doing watch alongs but I havent ever checked one out.

The idea seems like it is just asking for trouble though.
Watch along seem to not show the film and you have to watch it yourself with the streamer just commenting about it.

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Ruddager
10/29/20 11:12:43 AM
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Alteres posted...
How does that work for streamers and movies, I have heard of a few doing watch alongs but I havent ever checked one out.

The idea seems like it is just asking for trouble though.

Twitch allows watch parties of stuff that's on Prime Video
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Alteres
10/29/20 11:18:47 AM
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Huh, interesting.

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voldothegr8
10/29/20 12:22:07 PM
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supercrono posted...
This is doubly funny because DragonForce is one of their top partners, and even RECORDED THEIR LAST ALBUM LIVE ON TWITCH. This isn't just a dude with a channel, this is one of their brand ambassadors being forced off the platform.

lol
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ModLogic
10/29/20 12:24:46 PM
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