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IfGodCouldDie
12/11/20 2:33:16 PM
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Would you consider it more disrespectful to call a trans person by their former name or to purposely call someone the wrong name?

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Jerry_Hellyeah
12/11/20 2:37:24 PM
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I dunno, Mike. I just don't know.

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R1masher
12/11/20 2:38:40 PM
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Idc what you call me, just make sure the name on the paycheck is right

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_Rinku_
12/11/20 2:41:48 PM
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I guess it depends.

Calling someone by their dead name is a tremendously rude, asshole thing to do and almost always explicitly transphobic in nature.

Calling someone by the wrong name? Depends on how exactly you're calling them the wrong name. Calling "Jim" "James" when he prefers the former? Rude, but not as bad as dead naming someone. Now, if you're talking a situation where, say... you deliberately mispronounce and list off a bunch of obviously wrong names for the person (such as when that one guy thought he was so funny for "not remembering" Kamala Harris's name), that's super rude and makes you a turbo asshole (and probably racist).
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IfGodCouldDie
12/11/20 2:51:54 PM
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_Rinku_ posted...
I guess it depends.

Calling someone by their dead name is a tremendously rude, asshole thing to do and almost always explicitly transphobic in nature.

Calling someone by the wrong name? Depends on how exactly you're calling them the wrong name. Calling "Jim" "James" when he prefers the former? Rude, but not as bad as dead naming someone. Now, if you're talking a situation where, say... you deliberately mispronounce and list off a bunch of obviously wrong names for the person (such as when that one guy thought he was so funny for "not remembering" Kamala Harris's name), that's super rude and makes you a turbo asshole (and probably racist).
That's a fair assessment.

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lilORANG
12/11/20 2:55:32 PM
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It's all about intent. If the dead name slips out bc that's what you're used to and you correct yourself, big whoop.
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XboxLegendary
12/11/20 2:58:06 PM
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Deadnaming is buzzword.
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CyricZ
12/11/20 2:59:58 PM
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XboxLegendary posted...
Deadnaming is buzzword.
What do you mean

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XboxLegendary
12/11/20 3:00:40 PM
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CyricZ posted...
What do you mean

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gIv0qUAjzNw

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nemu
12/11/20 3:04:27 PM
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You should respect their decision, but people also should understand that celebrities are a different breed of people, so their former names will never be forgotten. Purposely using the wrong name over and over even when corrected is just being an asshole, but just using it once is not an affront to decency either. Ive seen it both ways when people are talking about Page.
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Machete
12/11/20 3:11:43 PM
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XboxLegendary posted...


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gIv0qUAjzNw



What is this? No embedding and cant click because ads
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XboxLegendary
12/11/20 3:14:25 PM
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Machete posted...
What is this? No embedding and cant click because ads
Joe Rogan.
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_Rinku_
12/11/20 3:23:21 PM
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XboxLegendary posted...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gIv0qUAjzNw
Care to actually summarize your argument in your own words instead of regurgitating a video?
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XboxLegendary
12/11/20 3:24:33 PM
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_Rinku_ posted...
Care to actually summarize your argument in your own words instead of regurgitating a video?
It's...Joe Rogan...he's...on his podcast...and he gives his thoughts on deadnaming and...yeah.
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Lokison
12/11/20 3:25:50 PM
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XboxLegendary posted...
Joe Rogan.
Using Joe Rogan as a defense doesnt help your case.

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Jabodie
12/11/20 3:26:46 PM
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Alt right Joe Rogan on deadnaming

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XboxLegendary
12/11/20 3:27:02 PM
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Lokison posted...
Using Joe Rogan as a defense doesnt help your case.
If they three of us were in a room irl and Joe and I were staring you down you wouldn't say that.
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The-19th-Sparta
12/11/20 3:27:38 PM
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I know that particular video is an isolated incident, but the transperson is legitimately acting like a psychopath and the worker probably was just flabbergasted and wasn't able to handle the situation. Everyone may have the freedom to feel uncomfortable by something and try to make it right, but if you act like a crazy person, don't be surprised when someone treats you like a crazy person.

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_Rinku_
12/11/20 3:28:08 PM
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XboxLegendary posted...
It's...Joe Rogan...he's...on his podcast...and he gives his thoughts on deadnaming and...yeah.
Okay, and what is your opinion on the matter in your own words?
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UnholyMudcrab
12/11/20 3:28:37 PM
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Jabodie
12/11/20 3:28:51 PM
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XboxLegendary posted...
If they three of us were in a room irl and Joe and I were staring you down you wouldn't say that.
True. He exudes violent, masculine energy. Just looking at him you know violence is in his past, his DNA, his ancestry.

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Lokison
12/11/20 3:31:42 PM
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XboxLegendary posted...
If they three of us were in a room irl and Joe and I were staring you down you wouldn't say that.
Yea.. I would. Unless your trying to insinuate you and Alt Right Joe Rogan were going to beat me up; which is a threat and against ToS.

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Adyingod
12/11/20 3:32:40 PM
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_Rinku_ posted...
Okay, and what is your opinion on the matter in your own words?
Why don't people use thier own word for deadnaming instead of using a buzzword

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XboxLegendary
12/11/20 3:34:08 PM
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Lokison posted...
Yea.. I would. Unless your trying to insinuate you and Alt Right Joe Rogan were going to beat me up; which is a threat and against ToS.
I insinuated nothing of the sort.
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Lokison
12/11/20 3:34:23 PM
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Adyingod posted...
Why don't people use thier own word for deadnaming instead of using a buzzword
Because its an agreed upon term from a majority of populace. What agreed upon term do you guys want to argue against next?

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_Rinku_
12/11/20 3:34:38 PM
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Adyingod posted...
Why don't people use thier own word for deadnaming instead of using a buzzword
This is a stupid, fallacious argument. By all means, come up with a better word that succinctly conveys the idea behind "deadnaming."
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Questionmarktarius
12/11/20 3:35:00 PM
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_Rinku_ posted...
Calling someone by their dead name is a tremendously rude, asshole thing to do and almost always explicitly transphobic in nature.
What about "Leaf Phoenix"?
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Jabodie
12/11/20 3:35:10 PM
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Adyingod posted...
Why don't people use thier own word for deadnaming instead of using a buzzword
Oh... I'm adding this one to the toolbox.

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Lokison
12/11/20 3:35:18 PM
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XboxLegendary posted...
I insinuated nothing of the sort.
So what was your point? Why are you convinced you and Alt Right Joe Rogan staring me down would make me change my opinion?

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Adyingod
12/11/20 3:37:33 PM
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Lokison posted...
So what was your point? Why are you convinced you and Alt Right Joe Rogan staring me down would make me change my opinion?
I think his point is, if they were staring down at you, you would jump to the assumption they wanted to beat you up like a little pussy

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Jabodie
12/11/20 3:38:29 PM
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Adyingod posted...
I think his point is, if they were staring down at you, you would jump to the assumption they wanted to beat you up like a little pussy
True. He exudes violent, masculine energy. Just looking at him you know violence is in his past, his DNA, his ancestry.

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Adyingod
12/11/20 3:38:32 PM
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Lokison posted...
Because its an agreed upon term from a majority of populace. What agreed upon term do you guys want to argue against next?
Male/female?

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Lokison
12/11/20 3:41:25 PM
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Adyingod posted...
I think his point is, if they were staring down at you, you would jump to the assumption they wanted to beat you up like a little pussy

Adyingod posted...
Male/female?

Yea, be a smartass; it's a great look for you.

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iPhone_7
12/11/20 3:43:49 PM
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Jabodie posted...
True. He exudes violent, masculine energy. Just looking at him you know violence is in his past, his DNA, his ancestry.
Whoa
Thats crazy man
Have you ever tried DMT?

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Adyingod
12/11/20 3:45:16 PM
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Lokison posted...
Yea, be a smartass; it's a great look for you.
I think I rest my case

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CyricZ
12/11/20 3:47:04 PM
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XboxLegendary posted...
What do you mean, not what does Joe Rogan mean.

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Jabodie
12/11/20 3:47:10 PM
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iPhone_7 posted...
Whoa
Thats crazy man
Have you ever tried DMT?
Personally, he's my go to expert on civil rights, the justice system, medicine, psychology/sociology, political analysis, and so much more.

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YugiNoob
12/11/20 3:52:28 PM
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nemu posted...
You should respect their decision, but people also should understand that celebrities are a different breed of people, so their former names will never be forgotten. Purposely using the wrong name over and over even when corrected is just being an asshole, but just using it once is not an affront to decency either. Ive seen it both ways when people are talking about Page.
lmao my friend got warned for accidentally using the wrong pronoun in that topic about his transition

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XboxLegendary
12/11/20 3:53:50 PM
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YugiNoob posted...
lmao my friend got warned for accidentally using the wrong pronoun in that topic about his transition
For real? I think we should look into a class action lawsuit against Gamefaqs.
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Atralis
12/11/20 3:54:18 PM
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I never known a transgender person well enough to know their name.
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Lokison
12/11/20 3:54:54 PM
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XboxLegendary posted...
For real? I think we should look into a class action lawsuit against Gamefaqs.
Just.. stop. You look less and less intelligent with every post.

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