Current Events > Rolling Stone interviewed Lauren Kwei, the NYC paramedic who did sex work.

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CyricZ
12/18/20 9:08:56 AM
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I'm not going to link to the article, because it names the sex work site she used.

But it's basically a straight interview with her not only about what led to her sex work but also documenting the exploitative New York Post interview that got her into the public spotlight.

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ChopinList
12/18/20 9:18:39 AM
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I'm Out of the loop. Did she get fired from job?

Or is the outrage only NYpost publicly linked her to the site?

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pres_madagascar
12/18/20 9:19:33 AM
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CyricZ posted...
I'm not going to link to the article, because it names the sex work site she used.

But it's basically a straight interview with her not only about what led to her sex work but also documenting the exploitative New York Post interview that got her into the public spotlight.
It's not against the tos to name only fans is it?

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The Trent
12/18/20 9:19:45 AM
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we gotta define sex work better

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CyricZ
12/18/20 9:20:13 AM
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ChopinList posted...
Did she get fired from job?
She's still working at her job as a paramedic.

ChopinList posted...
Or is the outrage only NYpost publicly linked her to the site?
If you find the RS article, you can read as to how the NYP treated her.

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pres_madagascar
12/18/20 9:20:36 AM
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The Trent posted...
we gotta define sex work better
Every girl and her mom has an onlyfans now.

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The Trent
12/18/20 9:20:58 AM
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are you calling my mom a sex worker pal

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CyricZ
12/18/20 9:21:18 AM
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pres_madagascar posted...
It's not against the tos to name
People have been modded for it. I'm not interested in taking that risk today.

The Trent posted...
we gotta define sex work better
How so?

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pres_madagascar
12/18/20 9:21:20 AM
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The Trent posted...
are you calling my mom a sex worker pal
No but my sister is a whore.

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The Trent
12/18/20 9:22:03 AM
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CyricZ posted...
How so?

let's call this "sexy work" and actual contact sex work "sex work"
differentiation can be important sometimes in flavoring public opinion

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Lebronwon
12/18/20 9:23:17 AM
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I'm surprised all these months/years later that SUNY counselor that is also on that site hasn't been outed yet. She has 200k followers on Twitter too and her thing is she gangbangs random dudes at one point doing a 100 random men one.

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Romulox28
12/18/20 9:23:53 AM
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i fucked her

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CyricZ
12/18/20 9:29:15 AM
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The Trent posted...
let's call this "sexy work" and actual contact sex work "sex work"
differentiation can be important sometimes in flavoring public opinion
I think it's important to be careful how we classify, lest we lead to segregation in terms of what's "good" and what's "not good".

Sex work is any work where someone gets paid for providing sexual pleasure to another, whether directly or indirectly.

Trying to draw a hard line between physical contact and non-physical contact is something I don't approve of.

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The Trent
12/18/20 9:34:14 AM
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but victoria's secret is selling lingerie, not sex

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ChopinList
12/18/20 9:35:56 AM
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CyricZ posted...
She's still working at her job as a paramedic.

If you find the RS article, you can read as to how the NYP treated her.

Oh this whole time I thought she was an escort but she did porn and it was out there on the internet and got outed. That happens all the time to people that do porn.

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littlebro07
12/18/20 9:40:02 AM
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pres_madagascar posted...
Every girl and her mom has an onlyfans now.

Seems that way

I saw a girl on tiktok who apparently bought a brand new car and a big house with cash from doing OF for a year

If I were a girl I'd totally do that.

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CyricZ
12/18/20 9:55:08 AM
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16-BITTER posted...
"Swimsuit models are sex workers" doesn't sound right to me tbh
Allow me to clarify in that "providing sexual pleasure" is the intent of the sex worker. Direct means contact with the customer. Indirect means the customer engages separately with their work. It has nothing to do with "hey I find X hot does that mean X is sex work?"

So in that regard, it's gray for swimsuit models. If the point of a swimsuit model is to advertise a women's swimsuit for sale, that's not sex work, but if they're posing for the purpose of their bodies being shown off in a suggestive manner while wearing a swimsuit, that's sex work.

And the point is that if you are engaged in sex work of any kind, there's no particular shame. The actual "not sounding right" to you is the problem.

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but victoria's secret is selling lingerie, not sex
And this is even less of a distinction. Victoria's Secret is absolutely selling sex. What do you think lingerie is used for?

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The Trent
12/18/20 9:59:33 AM
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so then a victoria's secret model is a sex worker
is a victoria's secret corporate controller a sex worker? for working towards the marketability and sale of sex?

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CyricZ
12/18/20 10:02:41 AM
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The Trent posted...
so then a victoria's secret model is a sex worker
is a victoria's secret corporate controller a sex worker? for working towards the marketability and sale of sex?
Yes.

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The Trent
12/18/20 10:03:52 AM
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the children sewing victoria's secret bras together in pakistan...are they sex workers?

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Poop2
12/18/20 10:08:24 AM
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lets leave lingerie out of this,yea?
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CyricZ
12/18/20 10:09:54 AM
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If there are children working in a VS factory, I'd say the greater concern is child labor, not that what their making is meant for sex.

But someone who is manufacturing lingerie is contributing to sex, so yes by definition it's sex work. The same as if they were making sex toys.

Poop2 posted...
lets leave lingerie out of this,yea?
Oh why bother. Trent is obviously trying to make this a thing. If he wants to imagine children engaging in sex work, that's his own business.

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The Trent
12/18/20 10:13:41 AM
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dude you're the one painting yourself into a corner by reducing this to "children making clothing and/or executives running companies are equivalent to literal street hookers because they are all sex workers"
i'm just asking questions, you don't have to answer this way
really weird turn you're taking here

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The Trent
12/18/20 10:14:47 AM
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basically i'm supporting my assertion previously that the paramedic is engaging in "sexy work" as is anyone else is selling their pictures on the internet, which is patently different from SEX WORK involving turning tricks and i think we should define them differently
e: and for the record, i have no issue with either one, sell your body or your pictures because they're both yours and i don't give a fuck

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CyricZ
12/18/20 10:18:47 AM
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The Trent posted...
i'm just asking questions
lol imagine literally typing this. Do you even read what you type before you post it?

You brought children into the conversation. Not me. I told you what sex work is, and you're the one trying to weasel anything you can into it. If you don't want people to look at you funny, don't out yourself like this.

The Trent posted...
the paramedic is engaging in "sexy work" as is anyone else is selling their pictures on the internet, which is patently different from SEX WORK involving turning tricks and i think we should define them differently
Why.

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The Trent
12/18/20 10:20:23 AM
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i was curious to see how far you'd let the thought go and you really let it play all the way out
you're the one that went far enough to say that yes, you stand by the argument
i don't know why you're mad, they're your answers
you are welcome to change them and say that a child or adult involved in sewing bras is not engaging in sex work

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The Trent
12/18/20 10:21:05 AM
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CyricZ posted...
lol imagine literally typing this. Do you even read what you type before you post it?

You brought children into the conversation. Not me. I told you what sex work is, and you're the one trying to weasel anything you can into it. If you don't want people to look at you funny, don't out yourself like this.

Why.

for the reasons i just illustrated that made you mad
differentiation doesn't mean negativity
saying they're not the same doesn't mean i'm saying one is worse

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NinjaWarrior455
12/18/20 10:22:49 AM
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Just do the smart thing and block Trent so his posts aren't visible

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The Trent
12/18/20 10:23:14 AM
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NinjaWarrior455 posted...
Just do the smart thing and block Trent so his posts aren't visible

i also encourage this to anyone on the fence or mildly upset by things i say on this board
this guy gets it

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CyricZ
12/18/20 10:29:02 AM
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Yes, we saw the argument through to its endpoint.

And you felt you had to go to illegal exploitation of children to prove a point. You didn't have to.

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The Trent
12/18/20 10:30:01 AM
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oh, you were going to acknowledge that differentiation may be worthwhile before we got to that point?

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CyricZ
12/18/20 10:34:15 AM
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I assumed you had standards.

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The Trent
12/18/20 10:34:59 AM
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lol we're going to act like i'm enslaving children and forcing them to sew bras or something now because i made an argument that you found distasteful

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CyricZ
12/18/20 10:37:13 AM
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The Trent posted...
lol we're going to act like i'm enslaving children and forcing them to sew bras or something now because i made an argument that you found distasteful
Hey write what you know, right?

I guess I really need to learn there is no bottom with you.

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The Trent
12/18/20 10:39:22 AM
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it's okay not everyone learns at the same rate
what's important is that you keep trying

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CyricZ
12/18/20 10:51:14 AM
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Anyway, I think it's great that she's being allowed to tell her story. I think it's a good way to discuss the topic of sex work, its legitimacy, and also how much the NYP sucks.

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GiftedACIII
12/18/20 12:54:28 PM
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She's been getting a lot of support thankfully
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Simp
12/18/20 1:02:02 PM
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I wonder how many people in New York do live on $25/hour or less.

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MaxEffingBemis
12/18/20 1:07:09 PM
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I was wondering why there are so many posts I cant see and its because its one user whom Ive blocked posting. Sounds like for good reason too!

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