Poll of the Day > If there is fossilized microbial life on Mars, we will probably find it soon

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Mead 02/18/21 3:50:49 PM #1:	That is both exciting because it will all but guarantee that life exists outside of earth, but at the same time I feel like a lot of people wont appreciate the gravity of the discover if it is found https://phys.org/news/2021-02-life-mars-nasa-perseverance-rover.html --- YOU control the numbers of leches. -Sal Vulcano <cite>Mead posted [p:950802027] in If there i... [t:79303580]...</cite> <quote>That is both exciting because it will all but guarantee that life exists outside of earth, but at the same time I feel like a lot of people wont appreciate the gravity of the discover if it is found https://phys.org/news/2021-02-life-mars-nasa-perseverance-rover.html </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Soup_or_Science 02/18/21 3:57:40 PM #2:	This is cool as hell, honestly Progress is progress --- Form of... A bucket of ice! <cite>Soup_or_Science posted [p:950802316] in If there i... [t:79303580]...</cite> <quote>This is cool as hell, honestly Progress is progress </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
LinkPizza 02/18/21 4:08:33 PM #3:	This video makes me think otherwise... A little... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UjtOGPJ0URM --- Official King of Kings Switch FC: 7216-4417-4511 Add Me because I'll probably add you. I'm probably the LinkPizza you'll see around. <cite>LinkPizza posted [p:950802778] in If there i... [t:79303580]...</cite> <quote>This video makes me think otherwise... A little... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UjtOGPJ0URM</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Mead 02/18/21 4:27:09 PM #4:	LinkPizza posted... This video makes me think otherwise... A little... yep it could mean theres a difficult or even impassable barrier ahead of our civilization but then again http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/%CA%BBOumuamua is making a lot of astrologists think that we arent really very good at looking for signs of life --- YOU control the numbers of leches. -Sal Vulcano <cite>Mead posted [p:950803570] in If there i... [t:79303580]...</cite> <quote>LinkPizza posted... </cite> <quote>This video makes me think otherwise... A little...</quote> yep it could mean theres a difficult or even impassable barrier ahead of our civilization but then again http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/%CA%BBOumuamua is making a lot of astrologists think that we arent really very good at looking for signs of life </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ParanoidObsessive 02/18/21 4:35:13 PM #5:	Mead posted... If there is fossilized microbial life on Mars, we will probably find it soon Debatable. Unless it's particularly complex life (which seems unlikely), it might wind up being a needle-in-a-haystack sort of scenario. If the only thing there to be found is evidence of monocellular bacteria or relatively simple life, it might not easy to find via a rover that's only going to take a limited number of samples in a limited area. There could be tons of evidence all over the planet that we'd simply fail to find, or maybe only a small amount of surviving evidence that would be difficult for anyone to find. They've maximized their chances of finding it by choosing a promising site, but that doesn't really guarantee anything at all. Mead posted... but at the same time I feel like a lot of people wont appreciate the gravity of the discover if it is found We never really reacted all that interested when it was demonstrated that organic compounds exist in comets and might actually be the source of life on Earth in the first place (comet impacts depositing the organic compounds, which in turn led to the formation of life), and that's arguably more significant - because it suggests that pretty much any planet that experiences comet/metorite impacts (ie, most of them) could conceivably have the building blocks for life present right from the very start. That does take us back to the Drake Equation, though (as most things do), where we have to question what the actual probability is that organic matter can eventually transmute into monocellular life (and not just the asspull numbers Drake plugged in to make the math work). It doesn't really matter if a million planets have organic matter if the odds of anything ever taking the next step are closer to one in a trillion (part of why the "size of the universe" arguments are mostly negated by "infinitesimal probability" arguments). Before the number of planets capable of supporting (or creating) life can actually matter, we need to know how likely the origin of life is. And then, after that, what the odds are of it ever evolving past the most simplistic of forms. LinkPizza posted... This video makes me think otherwise... A little... That's pretty much the reason why I do hope we eventually find it. I for one will welcome our homicidal reaping overlords. Though I have to point out that that video's art style/narration absolutely reminds me of the old Hitchhiker's Guide entries. To the point where I wonder if it was a deliberate stylistic choice on their part when they started the channel. --- "Wall of Text'D!" --- oldskoolplayr76 "POwned again." --- blight family <cite>ParanoidObsessive posted [p:950803930] in If there i... [t:79303580]...</cite> <quote><cite>Mead posted...</cite> <quote>If there is fossilized microbial life on Mars, we will probably find it soon </quote> Debatable. Unless it's particularly complex life (which seems unlikely), it might wind up being a needle-in-a-haystack sort of scenario. If the only thing there to be found is evidence of monocellular bacteria or relatively simple life, it might not easy to find via a rover that's only going to take a limited number of samples in a limited area. There could be tons of evidence all over the planet that we'd simply fail to find, or maybe only a small amount of surviving evidence that would be difficult for anyone to find. They've maximized their chances of finding it by choosing a promising site, but that doesn't really guarantee anything at all. <cite>Mead posted...</cite> <quote>but at the same time I feel like a lot of people wont appreciate the gravity of the discover if it is found</quote> We never really reacted all that interested when it was demonstrated that organic compounds exist in comets and might actually be the source of life on Earth in the first place (comet impacts depositing the organic compounds, which in turn led to the formation of life), and that's arguably more significant - because it suggests that pretty much any planet that experiences comet/metorite impacts (ie, most of them) could conceivably have the building blocks for life present right from the very start. That does take us back to the Drake Equation, though (as most things do), where we have to question what the actual probability is that organic matter can eventually transmute into monocellular life (and not just the asspull numbers Drake plugged in to make the math work). It doesn't really matter if a million planets have organic matter if the odds of anything ever taking the next step are closer to one in a trillion (part of why the "size of the universe" arguments are mostly negated by "infinitesimal probability" arguments). Before the number of planets capable of supporting (or creating) life can actually matter, we need to know how likely the origin of life is. And then, after that, what the odds are of it ever evolving past the most simplistic of forms. <cite>LinkPizza posted...</cite> <quote>This video makes me think otherwise... A little...</quote> That's pretty much the reason why I do hope we eventually find it. I for one will welcome our homicidal reaping overlords. Though I have to point out that that video's art style/narration absolutely reminds me of the old Hitchhiker's Guide entries. To the point where I wonder if it was a deliberate stylistic choice on their part when they started the channel.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Mead 02/18/21 4:57:15 PM #6:	I like the Kurzgesagt videos a lot. If you donate to their patreon they will actually put one of those little birds in their video for you(which may or may not be portrayed dying from some horrible calamity) --- YOU control the numbers of leches. -Sal Vulcano <cite>Mead posted [p:950804844] in If there i... [t:79303580]...</cite> <quote>I like the Kurzgesagt videos a lot. If you donate to their patreon they will actually put one of those little birds in their video for you(which may or may not be portrayed dying from some horrible calamity) </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
LinkPizza 02/18/21 5:34:10 PM #7:	Oh, yeah. I saw that. I've been thinking about getting my own bird. Especially since their videos are always really good... --- Official King of Kings Switch FC: 7216-4417-4511 Add Me because I'll probably add you. I'm probably the LinkPizza you'll see around. <cite>LinkPizza posted [p:950806364] in If there i... [t:79303580]...</cite> <quote>Oh, yeah. I saw that. I've been thinking about getting my own bird. Especially since their videos are always really good...</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Nightwind 02/19/21 7:30:08 AM #8:	well, "SOON". It aint the fastest little bot. --- Nightwind "the wind has no destination" <cite>Nightwind posted [p:950827926] in If there i... [t:79303580]...</cite> <quote>well, "SOON". It aint the fastest little bot. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Mead 02/19/21 8:55:09 AM #9:	Nightwind posted... well, "SOON". It aint the fastest little bot. it has its own pet helicopter --- YOU control the numbers of leches. -Sal Vulcano <cite>Mead posted [p:950829708] in If there i... [t:79303580]...</cite> <quote>Nightwind posted... </cite> <quote>well, "SOON". It aint the fastest little bot.</quote> it has its own pet helicopter </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Poll of the Day > If there is fossilized microbial life on Mars, we will probably find it soon