Current Events > Should the minimum wage be raised to $30/hr?

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On_The_Edge
02/25/21 2:02:44 PM
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why or why not?
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pure_temper
02/25/21 2:03:57 PM
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It should be tied to inflation and turned into a living wage. The number of people who make only minimum wage is small so the friction of such a move will be small.

The path to universal basic income is clear and logical.

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bluezero
02/25/21 2:05:32 PM
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Why: I would get a raise
Why not: I could quit this high stress job and flip burgers for the same pay

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pure_temper
02/25/21 2:06:27 PM
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bluezero posted...
Why not: I could quit this high stress job and flip burgers for the same pay

This is not a bad thing at all. The most essential workers are at that lower level of pay. It's unacceptable in a humane society.

And getting rid of useless labor so that we can focus on becoming scientsits and doctors and researchers and educators if we want sounds great to me.

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EndOfDiscOne
02/25/21 2:07:43 PM
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Literally no downside

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Prismsblade
02/25/21 2:12:25 PM
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pure_temper posted...
And getting rid of useless labor so that we can focus on becoming scientsits and doctors and researchers and educators if we want sounds great to me.
Getting rid of such jobs wont stop people from scrambling towards the easiest jobs that exist still.

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pure_temper
02/25/21 2:13:26 PM
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Prismsblade posted...
Getting rid of such jobs wont stop people from scrambling towards the easiest jobs that exist still.

And we already see from the wealth of PhDs or people who would love to research...that there is simply not currently enough funding going into basic science. Tens of millions of people would become empowered to do quality work that pushes us up the Kardashev scale.

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NoxObscuras
02/25/21 2:16:45 PM
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bluezero posted...
Why: I would get a raise
Why not: I could quit this high stress job and flip burgers for the same pay
As someone who worked at McDonald's in the past, I don't know that flipping burgers would really be an improvement.

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I4NRulez
02/25/21 2:17:00 PM
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bluezero posted...
Why not: I could quit this high stress job and flip burgers for the same pay

You've never worked in fast food if you think it isnt stressful. People are assholes

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NatsuSama
02/25/21 2:20:14 PM
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I4NRulez posted...
You've never worked in fast food if you think it isnt stressful. People are assholes
One can easily have worked both before and find their current job more stressful...

I went from a cartboy/jack of all trades at Target, to a manager at a Walgreens, to a sweatshop job on a navy warehouse to finally land a job in my career on another navy base.

My current job is a lot more stressful than my days in retail. Assholes exist everywhere.

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bluezero
02/25/21 4:43:37 PM
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I4NRulez posted...
You've never worked in fast food if you think it isnt stressful. People are assholes
Of course it's stressful. But it's not, "I'm glad I don't keep a gun in the house" levels.

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Flauros
02/25/21 4:44:56 PM
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Why stop there?

The senate and house should play a game of "higher number" to determine a min wage

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pure_temper
02/25/21 4:45:28 PM
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Flauros posted...
Why stop there?

The senate and house should play a game of "higher number" to determine a min wage

We understand what a living wage would be. Just make it the median income and tie it to inflation.

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CraziestCal
02/25/21 4:46:57 PM
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Those jobs will be taken by robots soon anyway.

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pure_temper
02/25/21 5:32:00 PM
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CraziestCal posted...
Those jobs will be taken by robots soon anyway.

which is why the path to UBI and free college are crystal clear and logical

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