Current Events > Reminder: "Disagreeing" with LGBT people is morally repugnant

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hockeybub89 06/12/21 2:10:29 AM #1:	It is no different than "disagreeing" with black people or men. You're not having a difference of opinion. You aren't debating tax rates. You're being a hateful jerk and are functionally identical to racists and sexists. There aren't equally valid opposing opinions on someone's physical existence. If you wouldn't like to hear a generalization about your sex or race, then don't say it about someone's orientation or gender identity. --- http://card.psnprofiles.com/1/NIR_Hockey.png http://www.last.fm/user/hockeybub89/ <cite>hockeybub89 posted [p:954909801] in Reminder: ... [t:79508173]...</cite> <quote>It is no different than "disagreeing" with black people or men. You're not having a difference of opinion. You aren't debating tax rates. You're being a hateful jerk and are functionally identical to racists and sexists. There aren't equally valid opposing opinions on someone's physical existence. If you wouldn't like to hear a generalization about your sex or race, then don't say it about someone's orientation or gender identity. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
RedJackson 06/12/21 2:12:10 AM #2:	Well yeah, telling someone their existence doesnt matter is douchey across the entire board --- https://imgur.com/e6aBSof - Pus_N_Pecans original! https://imgur.com/bve6U7T - Error1335 original! <cite>RedJackson posted [p:954909834] in Reminder: ... [t:79508173]...</cite> <quote>Well yeah, telling someone their existence doesnt matter is douchey across the entire board </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
asagi_mode_gone 06/12/21 2:12:55 AM #3:	It's also pride month. Let's say there was some who might I dunno, call a gay murder victim a rapist based on the murderer's word alone? Well, they'd come off really, really badly. Especially if they then went on to say that LGBT people shouldn't get emotional over that. Thankfully, anyone who would be that tactless would likely end up warned. <cite>asagi_mode_gone posted [p:954909849] in Reminder: ... [t:79508173]...</cite> <quote>It's also pride month. Let's say there was some who might I dunno, call a gay murder victim a rapist based on the murderer's word alone? Well, they'd come off really, really badly. Especially if they then went on to say that LGBT people shouldn't get emotional over that. Thankfully, anyone who would be that tactless would likely end up warned. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Guide 06/12/21 2:13:23 AM #4:	Topic title threw me for a loop lol. Your post clarifies and is right, but I was real confused for a sec. --- evening main 2.4356848e+91 https://youtu.be/Acn5IptKWQU <cite>Guide posted [p:954909861] in Reminder: ... [t:79508173]...</cite> <quote>Topic title threw me for a loop lol. Your post clarifies and is right, but I was real confused for a sec. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
joe40001 06/12/21 2:14:53 AM #5:	I think you need to define "disagreeing" here. --- "joe is attractive and quite the brilliant poster" - Seiichi Omori https://imgur.com/TheGsZ9 <cite>joe40001 posted [p:954909886] in Reminder: ... [t:79508173]...</cite> <quote>I think you need to define "disagreeing" here. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ultimate reaver 06/12/21 2:16:54 AM #6:	I assume you mean people who try to soften the phrasing whatever brand of hate as I dont hate you I just disagree with what youre doing in which case yes generally that is true --- I pray god will curse the writer, as the writer has cursed the world with this beautiful, stupendous creation, terrible in its simplicity, irresistible in truth <cite>ultimate reaver posted [p:954909921] in Reminder: ... [t:79508173]...</cite> <quote>I assume you mean people who try to soften the phrasing whatever brand of hate as I dont hate you I just disagree with what youre doing in which case yes generally that is true </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Ryuko_Chan 06/12/21 2:17:20 AM #7:	Guide posted... Topic title threw me for a loop lol. Your post clarifies and is right, but I was real confused for a sec. --- - silverhyruler post <cite>Ryuko_Chan posted [p:954909934] in Reminder: ... [t:79508173]...</cite> <quote>Guide posted... </cite> <quote>Topic title threw me for a loop lol. Your post clarifies and is right, but I was real confused for a sec.</quote> </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
genesis42 06/12/21 2:20:01 AM #8:	hockeybub89 posted... It is no different than "disagreeing" with black people or men. You're not having a difference of opinion. You aren't debating tax rates. You're being a hateful jerk and are functionally identical to racists and sexists. There aren't equally valid opposing opinions on someone's physical existence. If you wouldn't like to hear a generalization about your sex or race, then don't say it about someone's orientation or gender identity. Your brain on leftism folks --- Rig: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/n9Jg3Z https://imgur.com/E5N4O81 https://imgur.com/oipP5TH <cite>genesis42 posted [p:954909978] in Reminder: ... [t:79508173]...</cite> <quote>hockeybub89 posted... </cite> <quote>It is no different than "disagreeing" with black people or men. You're not having a difference of opinion. You aren't debating tax rates. You're being a hateful jerk and are functionally identical to racists and sexists. There aren't equally valid opposing opinions on someone's physical existence. If you wouldn't like to hear a generalization about your sex or race, then don't say it about someone's orientation or gender identity.</quote> Your brain on leftism folks </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DeadBankerDream 06/12/21 2:21:45 AM #9:	genesis42 posted... Your brain on leftism folks Making valid and obviously true points is your brain on leftism? --- "That thick shaft that causes women to shudder!" <cite>DeadBankerDream posted [p:954910015] in Reminder: ... [t:79508173]...</cite> <quote>genesis42 posted... </cite> <quote>Your brain on leftism folks</quote>Making valid and obviously true points is your brain on leftism? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Medussa 06/12/21 2:23:30 AM #10:	DeadBankerDream posted... Making valid and obviously true points is your brain on leftism? gotta love those theonion level takes. also -- another one? --- Boom! That's right, this is all happening! You cannot change the channel now! And then there's Abby... She likes to braid <cite>Medussa posted [p:954910044] in Reminder: ... [t:79508173]...</cite> <quote>DeadBankerDream posted... </cite> <quote>Making valid and obviously true points is your brain on leftism?</quote> gotta love those theonion level takes. also -- another one? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Wetterdew 06/12/21 2:24:59 AM #11:	joe40001 posted... I think you need to define "disagreeing" here. The title confused me at first but it's clear from their post that they're talking about people who say "I don't agree with homosexuality" (or transgender or whatever else) meaning that they disapprove of gay people --- Talking about video games? it's ok to just disagree with each other on the internet. No point getting hostile or snide about it <cite>Wetterdew posted [p:954910071] in Reminder: ... [t:79508173]...</cite> <quote>joe40001 posted... </cite> <quote>I think you need to define "disagreeing" here.</quote>The title confused me at first but it's clear from their post that they're talking about people who say "I don't agree with homosexuality" (or transgender or whatever else) meaning that they disapprove of gay people </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
CarrieChan 06/12/21 2:26:10 AM #12:	Still doesn't give you an excuse to use someone's dead relative to win an argument. <cite>CarrieChan posted [p:954910088] in Reminder: ... [t:79508173]...</cite> <quote>Still doesn't give you an excuse to use someone's dead relative to win an argument. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DomingoGerman 06/12/21 2:27:32 AM #13:	CarrieChan posted... Still doesn't give you an excuse to use someone's dead relative to win an argument. cjherewegoagain.gif <cite>DomingoGerman posted [p:954910119] in Reminder: ... [t:79508173]...</cite> <quote>CarrieChan posted...</cite> <quote>Still doesn't give you an excuse to use someone's dead relative to win an argument. </quote> cjherewegoagain.gif</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
joe40001 06/12/21 2:27:57 AM #14:	Wetterdew posted... The title confused me at first but it's clear from their post that they're talking about people who say "I don't agree with homosexuality" (or transgender or whatever else) meaning that they disapprove of gay people I would like for OP to make this explicit. --- "joe is attractive and quite the brilliant poster" - Seiichi Omori https://imgur.com/TheGsZ9 <cite>joe40001 posted [p:954910123] in Reminder: ... [t:79508173]...</cite> <quote>Wetterdew posted... </cite> <quote>The title confused me at first but it's clear from their post that they're talking about people who say "I don't agree with homosexuality" (or transgender or whatever else) meaning that they disapprove of gay people</quote> I would like for OP to make this explicit. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DeadBankerDream 06/12/21 2:28:50 AM #15:	It is explicit in the body of the OP. Stop going full joenumbers. --- "That thick shaft that causes women to shudder!" <cite>DeadBankerDream posted [p:954910141] in Reminder: ... [t:79508173]...</cite> <quote>It is explicit in the body of the OP. Stop going full joenumbers. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Guide 06/12/21 2:28:53 AM #16:	joe40001 posted... I would like for OP to make this explicit. i think he did with his post that you can read --- evening main 2.4356848e+91 https://youtu.be/Acn5IptKWQU <cite>Guide posted [p:954910142] in Reminder: ... [t:79508173]...</cite> <quote>joe40001 posted... </cite> <quote>I would like for OP to make this explicit.</quote> i think he did with his post that you can read </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Shezarr 06/12/21 2:30:52 AM #18:	genesis42 posted... Your brain on leftism folks Someone pulled out an old alt for this shitpost --- The artist formerly known as RebelElite791 <cite>Shezarr posted [p:954910176] in Reminder: ... [t:79508173]...</cite> <quote>genesis42 posted... </cite> <quote>Your brain on leftism folks</quote>Someone pulled out an old alt for this shitpost </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
joe40001 06/12/21 2:32:55 AM #19:	Guide posted... i think he did with his post that you can read I see it, and it implies a meaning, though I do think it would be productive if they were super precise in their meaning. Or alternatively, I hope TC is saying "it is ok to disagree with people, but it is wrong to reject their humanity". --- "joe is attractive and quite the brilliant poster" - Seiichi Omori https://imgur.com/TheGsZ9 <cite>joe40001 posted [p:954910197] in Reminder: ... [t:79508173]...</cite> <quote>Guide posted... </cite> <quote>i think he did with his post that you can read</quote> I see it, and it implies a meaning, though I do think it would be productive if they were super precise in their meaning. Or alternatively, I hope TC is saying "it is ok to disagree with people, but it is wrong to reject their humanity". </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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CarrieChan 06/12/21 2:40:37 AM #21:	DomingoGerman posted... cjherewegoagain.gif The popcorn must flow! <cite>CarrieChan posted [p:954910315] in Reminder: ... [t:79508173]...</cite> <quote>DomingoGerman posted... </cite> <quote>cjherewegoagain.gif</quote>The popcorn must flow! </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Shezarr 06/12/21 2:50:44 AM #23:	I dont know what joenumbers get out of this shit --- The artist formerly known as RebelElite791 <cite>Shezarr posted [p:954910457] in Reminder: ... [t:79508173]...</cite> <quote>I dont know what joenumbers get out of this shit </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ultimate reaver 06/12/21 2:54:32 AM #24:	Shezarr posted... I dont know what joenumbers get out of this shit attention --- I pray god will curse the writer, as the writer has cursed the world with this beautiful, stupendous creation, terrible in its simplicity, irresistible in truth <cite>ultimate reaver posted [p:954910511] in Reminder: ... [t:79508173]...</cite> <quote>Shezarr posted... </cite> <quote>I dont know what joenumbers get out of this shit</quote> attention </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
genesis42 06/12/21 2:59:20 AM #25:	Shezarr posted... Someone pulled out an old alt for this shitpost Nah, just a lurker seeing how deranged this guy has become over the years. --- Rig: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/n9Jg3Z https://imgur.com/E5N4O81 https://imgur.com/oipP5TH <cite>genesis42 posted [p:954910572] in Reminder: ... [t:79508173]...</cite> <quote>Shezarr posted... </cite> <quote>Someone pulled out an old alt for this shitpost</quote> Nah, just a lurker seeing how deranged this guy has become over the years. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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joe40001 06/12/21 3:34:27 AM #27:	Conflict posted... Oh ffs. There is no "disagreeing with gay people". When you say you don't agree with LGBT people, you don't agree with their existence, their identity and their humanity. You don't agree with something they didn't choose. I know you're trying very hard to interpret as "disagreeing with someone who happens to be gay on a separate issue" but you know wtf TC meant. No, I didn't. And other people didn't too. The topic title is ambiguous if not willfully so. It is a weird way to say it to say "you shouldn't disagree with a gay person" to mean "you shouldn't believe gay people aren't allowed to be gay." If I went around saying "never disagree with tall people" I doubt anybody would interpret that to mean "don't say tall people shouldn't be allowed to be tall". What's the point of phrasing it in a weird way? Why not just say 'Reminder: Denying an LGBT persons identity is morally repugnant'? That's far more clear. The way it's phrased is needlessly ambiguous and I'm not sure that wasn't somehow the point. Disagreeing with LGBT people is fine, disagreeing that they have a right to be LGBT is not fine. Ellen is LGBT, I disagree with her on things. Anderson Cooper is LGBT, I disagree with him on things. etc --- "joe is attractive and quite the brilliant poster" - Seiichi Omori https://imgur.com/TheGsZ9 <cite>joe40001 posted [p:954910990] in Reminder: ... [t:79508173]...</cite> <quote>Conflict posted... </cite> <quote>Oh ffs. There is no "disagreeing with gay people". When you say you don't agree with LGBT people, you don't agree with their existence, their identity and their humanity. You don't agree with something they didn't choose. I know you're trying very hard to interpret as "disagreeing with someone who happens to be gay on a separate issue" but you know wtf TC meant.</quote> No, I didn't. And other people didn't too. The topic title is ambiguous if not willfully so. It is a weird way to say it to say "you shouldn't disagree with a gay person" to mean "you shouldn't believe gay people aren't allowed to be gay." If I went around saying "never disagree with tall people" I doubt anybody would interpret that to mean "don't say tall people shouldn't be allowed to be tall". What's the point of phrasing it in a weird way? Why not just say 'Reminder: Denying an LGBT persons identity is morally repugnant'? That's far more clear. The way it's phrased is needlessly ambiguous and I'm not sure that wasn't somehow the point. Disagreeing with LGBT people is fine, disagreeing that they have a right to be LGBT is not fine. Ellen is LGBT, I disagree with her on things. Anderson Cooper is LGBT, I disagree with him on things. etc </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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DeadBankerDream 06/12/21 3:36:29 AM #29:	The topic post is 100% clear on what TC meant and your continued wet farting to claim it's not is the most desparate of lies. --- "That thick shaft that causes women to shudder!" <cite>DeadBankerDream posted [p:954911016] in Reminder: ... [t:79508173]...</cite> <quote>The topic post is 100% clear on what TC meant and your continued wet farting to claim it's not is the most desparate of lies. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
joe40001 06/12/21 3:39:36 AM #30:	Conflict posted... That is literally what homophobic people say all the fucking time. "I don't agree with the gays". "I don't agree with their lifestyle". TC is paraphrasing them. Notice how you had to say "I don't agree with their lifestyle" for it to kinda sound like something people say? I really don't think many homophobic people go around saying "I don't agree with gay people." They say homophobic shit like "Gayness is wrong" or "I don't believe somebody should be gay". I honestly don't think I've ever heard somebody say "I don't agree with X people" to mean "I reject somebody's right to be X" or "I don't respect the humanity of X people." Be honest. Have you? --- "joe is attractive and quite the brilliant poster" - Seiichi Omori https://imgur.com/TheGsZ9 <cite>joe40001 posted [p:954911044] in Reminder: ... [t:79508173]...</cite> <quote>Conflict posted... </cite> <quote>That is literally what homophobic people say all the fucking time. "I don't agree with the gays". "I don't agree with their lifestyle". TC is paraphrasing them.</quote> Notice how you had to say "I don't agree with their lifestyle" for it to kinda sound like something people say? I really don't think many homophobic people go around saying "I don't agree with gay people." They say homophobic shit like "Gayness is wrong" or "I don't believe somebody should be gay". I honestly don't think I've ever heard somebody say "I don't agree with X people" to mean "I reject somebody's right to be X" or "I don't respect the humanity of X people." Be honest. Have you? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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joe40001 06/12/21 3:43:38 AM #32:	Conflict posted... Joe I don't understand what you gain out of pretending to be dense Yes, homophobic people say "I don't agree with the gays" on social media all the time. Do you need people to screenshot every little thing homophobes say? You've seen somebody say "I don't agree with LGBT people" on social media before? --- "joe is attractive and quite the brilliant poster" - Seiichi Omori https://imgur.com/TheGsZ9 <cite>joe40001 posted [p:954911091] in Reminder: ... [t:79508173]...</cite> <quote>Conflict posted... </cite> <quote>Joe I don't understand what you gain out of pretending to be dense Yes, homophobic people say "I don't agree with the gays" on social media all the time. Do you need people to screenshot every little thing homophobes say?</quote> You've seen somebody say "I don't agree with LGBT people" on social media before? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
joe40001 06/12/21 3:54:00 AM #33:	I did a twitter advanced search and I see several people saying it as a thing others say but I only see 1 person actually maybe saying that sentence to mean what OP implies it means. The search results seem to go back years so, I don't think it's at all nearly as common as is being implied. I don't think most people would construct the sentence like that and I think it is unclear. However it does seem there is some evidence that OP might have heard from other like minded people that "this is how bigots talk" or something, because while it doesn't seem like anybody actually talks like that, there does seem to be a bunch of people who assert that's how people talk. So I no longer thing it was likely deliberately phrased in an unclear way. --- "joe is attractive and quite the brilliant poster" - Seiichi Omori https://imgur.com/TheGsZ9 <cite>joe40001 posted [p:954911230] in Reminder: ... [t:79508173]...</cite> <quote>I did a twitter advanced search and I see several people saying it as a thing others say but I only see 1 person actually maybe saying that sentence to mean what OP implies it means. The search results seem to go back years so, I don't think it's at all nearly as common as is being implied. I don't think most people would construct the sentence like that and I think it is unclear. However it does seem there is some evidence that OP might have heard from other like minded people that "this is how bigots talk" or something, because while it doesn't seem like anybody actually talks like that, there does seem to be a bunch of people who assert that's how people talk. So I no longer thing it was likely deliberately phrased in an unclear way. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Guide 06/12/21 3:58:15 AM #34:	The specific statement you'll get results for is "I don't agree with the lgbt lifestyle", but also the OP is still quite clear in intention. --- evening main 2.4356848e+91 https://youtu.be/Acn5IptKWQU <cite>Guide posted [p:954911281] in Reminder: ... [t:79508173]...</cite> <quote>The specific statement you'll get results for is "I don't agree with the lgbt lifestyle", but also the OP is still quite clear in intention. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
joe40001 06/12/21 4:25:17 AM #35:	Guide posted... The specific statement you'll get results for is "I don't agree with the lgbt lifestyle", but also the OP is still quite clear in intention. NGL, I recognize TC, they can be bad faith sometimes, and so I had a hunch that the ambiguity of the topic title was for some reason intentional. From the OP the meaning is understandable. I'll just attribute the weird wording to the flaws in precision of second-hand bigotry and let it go. --- "joe is attractive and quite the brilliant poster" - Seiichi Omori https://imgur.com/TheGsZ9 <cite>joe40001 posted [p:954911592] in Reminder: ... [t:79508173]...</cite> <quote>Guide posted... </cite> <quote>The specific statement you'll get results for is "I don't agree with the lgbt lifestyle", but also the OP is still quite clear in intention.</quote> NGL, I recognize TC, they can be bad faith sometimes, and so I had a hunch that the ambiguity of the topic title was for some reason intentional. From the OP the meaning is understandable. I'll just attribute the weird wording to the flaws in precision of second-hand bigotry and let it go. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Funkydog 06/12/21 4:28:51 AM #36:	Please CE, I'm begging you... Just don't respond to Joe. You make us all suffer when you do. Please think of your fellow CEer when thinking about responding to him and just don't. --- https://imgur.com/BGbZK <cite>Funkydog posted [p:954911626] in Reminder: ... [t:79508173]...</cite> <quote>Please CE, I'm begging you... Just don't respond to Joe. You make us all suffer when you do. Please think of your fellow CEer when thinking about responding to him and just don't. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Ryuko_Chan 06/12/21 4:44:24 AM #37:	hello my name is first name bunch of numbers --- - silverhyruler post <cite>Ryuko_Chan posted [p:954911779] in Reminder: ... [t:79508173]...</cite> <quote>hello my name is first name bunch of numbers </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Guide 06/12/21 4:46:23 AM #38:	Funkydog posted... Please CE, I'm begging you... Just don't respond to Joe. You make us all suffer when you do. Please think of your fellow CEer when thinking about responding to him and just don't. sorry fam imma keep doing it --- evening main 2.4356848e+91 https://youtu.be/Acn5IptKWQU <cite>Guide posted [p:954911798] in Reminder: ... [t:79508173]...</cite> <quote>Funkydog posted... </cite> <quote>Please CE, I'm begging you... Just don't respond to Joe. You make us all suffer when you do. Please think of your fellow CEer when thinking about responding to him and just don't.</quote> sorry fam imma keep doing it </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
hockeybub89 06/12/21 9:17:23 AM #39:	joe40001 posted... it is ok to disagree with people, but it is wrong to reject their humanity Yes, it is ok to disagree with people on an individual level for opinionated matters. But if you are offended by the existence of gay people and disagree with them having every right you do, then you are exactly the same as a racist. It boils my bones when I see people who claim homophobia is somehow different and more morally justifiable than racism. They'll say something like "Gay people weren't slaves" or "You can't hide skin color". I've seen people on this very site get offended at the comparison. Also, remember when you called me a bad faith poster while accusing me of hating straight people? --- http://card.psnprofiles.com/1/NIR_Hockey.png http://www.last.fm/user/hockeybub89/ <cite>hockeybub89 posted [p:954915223] in Reminder: ... [t:79508173]...</cite> <quote>joe40001 posted... </cite> <quote>it is ok to disagree with people, but it is wrong to reject their humanity</quote>Yes, it is ok to disagree with people on an individual level for opinionated matters. But if you are offended by the existence of gay people and disagree with them having every right you do, then you are exactly the same as a racist. It boils my bones when I see people who claim homophobia is somehow different and more morally justifiable than racism. They'll say something like "Gay people weren't slaves" or "You can't hide skin color". I've seen people on this very site get offended at the comparison. Also, remember when you called me a bad faith poster while accusing me of hating straight people? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
joe40001 06/12/21 9:27:24 AM #40:	hockeybub89 posted... Yes, it is ok to disagree with people on an individual level for opinionated matters. But if you are offended by the existence of gay people and disagree with them having every right you do, then you are exactly the same as a racist. It boils my bones when I see people who claim homophobia is somehow different and more morally justifiable than racism. They'll say something like "Gay people weren't slaves" or "You can't hide skin color". I've seen people on this very site get offended at the comparison. Also, remember when you called me a bad faith poster while accusing me of hating straight people? I didn't accuse you of hating straight people, I said you sounded a lot like the kind of people who traumatized my friend and convinced him to hate himself because he was a straight white male, and then you mocked him and called him stupid for actually listening to them. So like, you are far from empathetic in that department. But as far as I have seen you have never explicitly said you hate straight people. If I had to guess, I'd guess you'd be the type of person to say "most every problem in society can be traced back to straight white men". but you can correct me if I'm wrong in that speculation. --- "joe is attractive and quite the brilliant poster" - Seiichi Omori https://imgur.com/TheGsZ9 <cite>joe40001 posted [p:954915411] in Reminder: ... [t:79508173]...</cite> <quote>hockeybub89 posted... </cite> <quote>Yes, it is ok to disagree with people on an individual level for opinionated matters. But if you are offended by the existence of gay people and disagree with them having every right you do, then you are exactly the same as a racist. It boils my bones when I see people who claim homophobia is somehow different and more morally justifiable than racism. They'll say something like "Gay people weren't slaves" or "You can't hide skin color". I've seen people on this very site get offended at the comparison. Also, remember when you called me a bad faith poster while accusing me of hating straight people?</quote> I didn't accuse you of hating straight people, I said you sounded a lot like the kind of people who traumatized my friend and convinced him to hate himself because he was a straight white male, and then you mocked him and called him stupid for actually listening to them. So like, you are far from empathetic in that department. But as far as I have seen you have never explicitly said you hate straight people. If I had to guess, I'd guess you'd be the type of person to say "most every problem in society can be traced back to straight white men". but you can correct me if I'm wrong in that speculation. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ROOTFayth 06/12/21 9:32:53 AM #41:	hockeybub89 posted... It is no different than "disagreeing" with black people or men. You're not having a difference of opinion. You aren't debating tax rates. You're being a hateful jerk and are functionally identical to racists and sexists. There aren't equally valid opposing opinions on someone's physical existence. If you wouldn't like to hear a generalization about your sex or race, then don't say it about someone's orientation or gender identity. what if you dont mind generalization about your sex or race? also can we disagree about tax rates with an LGBT person or not? <cite>ROOTFayth posted [p:954915536] in Reminder: ... [t:79508173]...</cite> <quote>hockeybub89 posted... </cite> <quote>It is no different than "disagreeing" with black people or men. You're not having a difference of opinion. You aren't debating tax rates. You're being a hateful jerk and are functionally identical to racists and sexists. There aren't equally valid opposing opinions on someone's physical existence. If you wouldn't like to hear a generalization about your sex or race, then don't say it about someone's orientation or gender identity.</quote>what if you dont mind generalization about your sex or race? also can we disagree about tax rates with an LGBT person or not? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ROOTFayth 06/12/21 9:34:13 AM #42:	asagi_mode_gone posted... Thankfully, anyone who would be that tactless oh god the irony hahahahahaha <cite>ROOTFayth posted [p:954915554] in Reminder: ... [t:79508173]...</cite> <quote>asagi_mode_gone posted... </cite> <quote> Thankfully, anyone who would be that tactless</quote>oh god the irony hahahahahaha </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
hockeybub89 06/12/21 9:38:25 AM #43:	ROOTFayth posted... what if you dont mind generalization about your sex or race? also can we disagree about tax rates with an LGBT person or not? "Racism is ok if you aren't personally offended by it" --- http://card.psnprofiles.com/1/NIR_Hockey.png http://www.last.fm/user/hockeybub89/ <cite>hockeybub89 posted [p:954915658] in Reminder: ... [t:79508173]...</cite> <quote>ROOTFayth posted... </cite> <quote>what if you dont mind generalization about your sex or race? also can we disagree about tax rates with an LGBT person or not?</quote>"Racism is ok if you aren't personally offended by it" </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ROOTFayth 06/12/21 9:41:27 AM #44:	hockeybub89 posted... "Racism is ok if you aren't personally offended by it" what a weird thing to say <cite>ROOTFayth posted [p:954915730] in Reminder: ... [t:79508173]...</cite> <quote>hockeybub89 posted... </cite> <quote>"Racism is ok if you aren't personally offended by it"</quote>what a weird thing to say </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
TheOtherMike 06/12/21 9:43:30 AM #45:	Imagine not having joenumbers on ignore. <cite>TheOtherMike posted [p:954915781] in Reminder: ... [t:79508173]...</cite> <quote>Imagine not having joenumbers on ignore. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
hockeybub89 06/12/21 9:45:46 AM #46:	ROOTFayth posted... what a weird thing to say It doesn't matter what you don't mind. joe40001 posted... If I had to guess, I'd guess you'd be the type of person to say "most every problem in society can be traced back to straight white men". but you can correct me if I'm wrong in that speculation. I wouldn't say that. I wouldn't generalize an entire race or orientation, since that would be bigoted. I also wouldn't say "I disagree with straight, white men" if I mean "I disagree with Tom Hanks' favorite chili recipe" --- http://card.psnprofiles.com/1/NIR_Hockey.png http://www.last.fm/user/hockeybub89/ <cite>hockeybub89 posted [p:954915831] in Reminder: ... [t:79508173]...</cite> <quote>ROOTFayth posted... </cite> <quote>what a weird thing to say</quote>It doesn't matter what you don't mind. joe40001 posted... </cite> <quote>If I had to guess, I'd guess you'd be the type of person to say "most every problem in society can be traced back to straight white men". but you can correct me if I'm wrong in that speculation.</quote>I wouldn't say that. I wouldn't generalize an entire race or orientation, since that would be bigoted. I also wouldn't say "I disagree with straight, white men" if I mean "I disagree with Tom Hanks' favorite chili recipe" </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
R1masher 06/12/21 9:54:52 AM #47:	Here comes the gotcha --- R1R1R1R1R1R1 <cite>R1masher posted [p:954916016] in Reminder: ... [t:79508173]...</cite> <quote>Here comes the gotcha </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
yusiko 06/12/21 9:55:45 AM #48:	i do know what you mean but i choose to think you mean people literally cant disagree with me without being morally repugnant :) i always knew onions were terrible and anyone who thought otherwise was an awful person but its nice to finally have validation! --- yusketeer <cite>yusiko posted [p:954916038] in Reminder: ... [t:79508173]...</cite> <quote>i do know what you mean but i choose to think you mean people literally cant disagree with me without being morally repugnant :) i always knew onions were terrible and anyone who thought otherwise was an awful person but its nice to finally have validation! </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
BilalPowell 06/12/21 10:00:58 AM #49:	Not all LGBT people agree with each other though. So you can't agree with all of them --- Former #1 Birmingham Iron Fan. RIP AAF <cite>BilalPowell posted [p:954916158] in Reminder: ... [t:79508173]...</cite> <quote>Not all LGBT people agree with each other though. So you can't agree with all of them </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
hockeybub89 06/12/21 10:13:27 AM #50:	BilalPowell posted... Not all LGBT people agree with each other though. So you can't agree with all of them But you can disagree with all of them? I don't know about you, but I never say "I disagree with this group of people" if I mean "I disagree with some individuals that are within said group on various matters." The only assumption that can be made when one disagrees with LGBT people is that the person is homophobic, since there is no singular mind to disagree with. --- http://card.psnprofiles.com/1/NIR_Hockey.png http://www.last.fm/user/hockeybub89/ <cite>hockeybub89 posted [p:954916454] in Reminder: ... [t:79508173]...</cite> <quote>BilalPowell posted... </cite> <quote>Not all LGBT people agree with each other though. So you can't agree with all of them</quote>But you can disagree with all of them? I don't know about you, but I never say "I disagree with this group of people" if I mean "I disagree with some individuals that are within said group on various matters." The only assumption that can be made when one disagrees with LGBT people is that the person is homophobic, since there is no singular mind to disagree with. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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