Current Events > I thought COVID-19 was going to unify the country

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Not forever, but I was optimistic that the pandemic was going to be one of the most unifying causes in American history. I legitimately believed it would get everyone to put aside politics and agree on something factually and morally good: ending a pandemic through preventative measures and vaccinations. I didn't even think it would be possible for such toxic disagreement, not even in the middle of a divisive Presidency. I couldn't comprehend it.

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This is America

We hate each other too much to ever unite

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Did you though? Because America was pretty much split on this from the beginning of the pandemic. Exactly at what point did you believe this?

my guess: never. Youre just one of those people who like to pretend they have hope only to shit on everything.

I had hope Biden was going to unite the Republicans and Democrats and we were all going to work together in peace and harmony.

see, I can do it too

Nah, for something to unify the country, it would have to be something that is so disastrous that the attempt to politicize it would be seen through by the masses. It would be something so devastating that even corrupt politicians would perhaps think of the good of humanity rather than their own self interests.

Covid was neither of those things. Statistically, Covid is a beefed up flu. It's not catastrophic enough to cut through the bs. You don't get a virus with a near 100% survival rate and expect it to unite the country. What you get is the opportunity for corrupt and greedy politicians and corporate interests selling the virus like it's worse than it is to get what they want but not sell it bad enough to unite the country.

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-GalacticBass- posted...

Nah, for something to unify the country, it would have to be something that is so disastrous that the attempt to politicize it would be seen through by the masses. It would be something so devastating that even corrupt politicians would perhaps think of the good of humanity rather than their own self interests.

Covid was neither of those things. Statistically, Covid is a beefed up flu. It's not catastrophic enough to cut through the bs. You don't get a virus with a near 100% survival rate and expect it to unite the country. What you get is the opportunity for corrupt and greedy politicians and corporate interests selling the virus like it's worse than it is to get what they want but not sell it bad enough to unite the country.

This has been one of the most destructive pandemics in human history. I don't know how Republicans could say it was fear-mongering when the Democrats haven't even taken it seriously enough.

Bleuets posted...

Did you though? Because America was pretty much split on this from the beginning of the pandemic. Exactly at what point did you believe this?

my guess: never. Youre just one of those people who like to pretend they have hope only to shit on everything.

I had hope Biden was going to unite the Republicans and Democrats and we were all going to work together in peace and harmony.

see, I can do it too

This is what I'm talking about. There's no reason any of that bullshit should have mattered. There is nothing to disagree about. Everyone Democrat or Republican should have been happily masking up. Vaccine manufacturers shouldn't even be able to keep up with the demand as everyone from every walk of life flocks to their local doctor or pharmacy. Honestly, homophobia makes more logical sense to me that whatever the fuck the pandemic was in America.

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Never underestimate the divisive powers of Republicans.

Honestly, homophobia makes more logical sense to me

what the fuck is that supposed to mean?

Statistically, Covid is a beefed up flu. It's not catastrophic enough to cut through the bs. You don't get a virus with a near 100% survival rate and expect it to unite the country.

The flu never left me with a damaged heart and ED. This is patently false and you ought to be ashamed for peddling this misinformation more than a full fucking year since this shitshow began.

Please get vaccinated if you haven't. Save yourself the potentially permanent and crippling side effects.

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Does ED mean you'll never fuck again or if you haven't never be able to? Like not even to do yourself?

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its not the government, people are divided everywhere, the conspiracy theories caused the divide

lol, crisis dont unify people, they divide them. that's just one of the dumber myths that movies have pushed for years.

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What were you thinking?

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tremain07 posted...

Does ED mean you'll never fuck again or if you haven't never be able to? Like not even to do yourself?

Best I can do right now is 3/4 staff. It's not enough to penetrate, but enough to finish manually, but it's very hard to get there. If I can get my heart healthier it might get better, but my doctor has told me not to get too hopeful.

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I had covid and I haven't noticed anything like what you're describing. still ready to go at all times lmao. Be sure to get more opinions from other doctors too man, because one might be wrong. Could be some other underlying condition that gets conveniently blamed on covid since it's easy and people are lazy and just wanna get paid. >_> it's entirely possible something else is causing poor circulation or something and it can be easily fixed. i'm no doc but obviously you can get more opinions from other docs right?

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What country are we talking about?

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pure_temper posted...

I had covid and I haven't noticed anything like what you're describing. still ready to go at all times lmao. Be sure to get more opinions from other doctors too man, because one might be wrong. Could be some other underlying condition that gets conveniently blamed on covid since it's easy and people are lazy and just wanna get paid. >_> it's entirely possible something else is causing poor circulation or something and it can be easily fixed. i'm no doc but obviously you can get more opinions from other docs right?

I mean its not a 100% guarantee when you get covid but heart inflammation is one of the possible unlikely symptoms and its not nice, most people get on just fine with their lives after getting covid, but in general the lingering side effects and the overall risks are significantly worse than the flu

Bleuets posted...

what the fuck is that supposed to mean?

Homophobia makes no logical sense at all and yet conservative idiots being homophobic still makes more sense than the utter idiocy they've displayed in the pandemic.

Is what I think he was getting at.

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pure_temper posted...

I had covid and I haven't noticed anything like what you're describing. still ready to go at all times lmao. Be sure to get more opinions from other doctors too man, because one might be wrong. Could be some other underlying condition that gets conveniently blamed on covid since it's easy and people are lazy and just wanna get paid. >_> it's entirely possible something else is causing poor circulation or something and it can be easily fixed. i'm no doc but obviously you can get more opinions from other docs right?

Maybe. Maybe you just got luckier than me. Doctor thought it was blood pressure related at first, but after dropping my blood pressure significantly it hasn't gotten better. Signs point to covid-dick.

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pure_temper posted...

I had covid and I haven't noticed anything like what you're describing. still ready to go at all times lmao. Be sure to get more opinions from other doctors too man, because one might be wrong. Could be some other underlying condition that gets conveniently blamed on covid since it's easy and people are lazy and just wanna get paid. >_> it's entirely possible something else is causing poor circulation or something and it can be easily fixed. i'm no doc but obviously you can get more opinions from other docs right?

It's a fairly common issue

https://www.webmd.com/lung/news/20210407/erectile-dysfunction-risk-6-times-higher-in-men-with-covid

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Doom_Art posted...

Homophobia makes no logical sense at all and yet conservative idiots being homophobic still makes more sense than the utter idiocy they've displayed in the pandemic.

Is what I think he was getting at.

Correct

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ehhh sample size of 100 isn't really moving me much tbh, hopefully they study that more

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tremain07 posted...

We hate each other too much to ever unite

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pure_temper posted...

ehhh sample size of 100 isn't really moving me much tbh, hopefully they study that more

sample size is low but 6 times higher is really significant

pure_temper posted...

I had covid and I haven't noticed anything like what you're describing. still ready to go at all times lmao. Be sure to get more opinions from other doctors too man, because one might be wrong. Could be some other underlying condition that gets conveniently blamed on covid since it's easy and people are lazy and just wanna get paid. >_> it's entirely possible something else is causing poor circulation or something and it can be easily fixed. i'm no doc but obviously you can get more opinions from other docs right?

Oh come on, man. Now we're buying into the "Doctors are blaming everything on COVID to make money" conspiracy? Why would it even matter what caused the symptoms they are treating? Are the people that manufactured COVID-19 really paying doctors that well? Medical ethics just completely destroyed with a single pandemic?

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At this point, the premise for Independence Day seems ludicrous purely for the fact that you would have people calling the invasion a hoax perpetuated by fear-mongering while New York City is busy getting wiped off the face of the planet.

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hockeybub you heard about the opioid epidemic, right? don't underestimate what ppl in any profession will do for money.

anyway, yeah 6 times higher is significant but with such a small sample size, could easily be because of things they didn't think of to exclude. make it like 10,000 sample size or w/e, idk

maybe @COVxy could answer this actually

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-GalacticBass- posted...

Statistically, Covid is a beefed up flu. It's not catastrophic enough to cut through the bs. You don't get a virus with a near 100% survival rate and expect it to unite the country.

Statistically, COVID is more deadly by far. A "survival rate" of 98% means it kills 1 in 50 who catch it. Flu is around a 99.9% survival rate, meaning 1 in 1000.

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Serious Cat posted...

Statistically, COVID is more deadly by far. A "survival rate" of 98% means it kills 1 in 50 who catch it. Flu is around a 99.9% survival rate, meaning 1 in 1000.

its less deadly for kids than the flu I believe, overall death metric is not a very reliable information on the risks of covid imo

ROOTFayth posted...

its less deadly for kids than the flu I believe, overall death metric is not a very reliable information on the risks of covid imo

Yes, it's far more destructive than simply its death rate.

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pure_temper posted...

hockeybub you heard about the opioid epidemic, right? don't underestimate what ppl in any profession will do for money.

Yeah I kinda heard about it. Now cut this shit out. This slanders people I respect and even makes me an accessory. If we don't even trust doctors, then there is nothing left. Politics and media need to step the fuck bad before they destroy medicine.

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hockeybub89 posted...

Yeah I kinda heard about it. Now cut this shit out. This slanders people I respect and even makes me an accessory. If we don't even trust doctors, then there is nothing left. Politics and media need to step the fuck bad before they destroy medicine.

uh we have plenty to trust in medicine and doctors and etc. that's why you get more opinions if you need to (and you always should if you can) and leave good reviews for the good doctors and if someone breaks the law with kickbacks and etc, send their asses to jail

etc

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AldousIsDead posted...

The flu never left me with a damaged heart and ED. This is patently false and you ought to be ashamed for peddling this misinformation more than a full fucking year since this shitshow began.

Please get vaccinated if you haven't. Save yourself the potentially permanent and crippling side effects.

Hence why I said "beefed up" flu. And your case (if it is indeed caused by Covid) is extremely rare. As I've stated, Covid just isn't bad enough to unite the country. Nothing I said was false. And nothing I said was misinformation.

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I thought it would bring friends closer together. Instead, a bunch of people unfriended me.

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Serious Cat posted...

Statistically, COVID is more deadly by far. A "survival rate" of 98% means it kills 1 in 50 who catch it. Flu is around a 99.9% survival rate, meaning 1 in 1000.

Hence why I said "beefed up". Do you read my post? 98% is not catastrophic enough to unite the country.

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This topic got me thinking of what possible tragedies could unite the country and honestly at this point I can't think of any

If a 9/11 happened you'd have white supremacists murdering every muslim they saw. If an alien invasion happened you'd have idiots believing it isn't actually happening because they live in east bumblefuck or whatever. And then you'd have people fighting with eachother if we should fight back the aliens or peace talk with them or some shit

South Park could probably write this shit better than anyone can tbqh
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-GalacticBass- posted...

Hence why I said "beefed up". Do you read my post? 98% is not catastrophic enough to unite the country.

2% of the USA population is over 6.6 million people.

2,977 people died on the September 11th terrorist attacks in 2001.

That means 2,200 times more people would die from COVID then literally 9/11.

@-GalacticBass-

This is why you should shut the fuck up.

BettyWhite posted...

At this point, the premise for Independence Day seems ludicrous purely for the fact that you would have people calling the invasion a hoax perpetuated by fear-mongering while New York City is busy getting wiped off the face of the planet.

"Fuck NYC! That place is a liberal hellhole and deserved to be wiped off the map! Hey, why it got all dark over here in Missouri like a storm's coming? Oh sh"

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Serious Cat posted...

Statistically, COVID is more deadly by far. A "survival rate" of 98% means it kills 1 in 50 who catch it. Flu is around a 99.9% survival rate, meaning 1 in 1000.

But the deaths are not evenly distributed across ages. Most deaths are for older people. If you are under 50, very little chance you will die if it. Over 85, youll probably die, but you are already over the life expectancy for people in the US so you may have ended up dying of natural causes soon anyway.
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I thought my friend would still have me over once to hang out again after everyone got vaccinated. Spoiler: they haven't despite me asking multiple times
But on the bright side no one I know personally got covid including me so yay!!

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hockeybub89 posted...

This has been one of the most destructive pandemics in human history. I don't know how Republicans could say it was fear-mongering when the Democrats haven't even taken it seriously enough.

Maybe in the past half century, but human history? Not even close. Doeasnt help that it's mostly the elderly targeted which is far from catastrophic towards a society vs the healthy and young dropping like flys.

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-GalacticBass- posted...

Nah, for something to unify the country, it would have to be something that is so disastrous that the attempt to politicize it would be seen through by the masses. It would be something so devastating that even corrupt politicians would perhaps think of the good of humanity rather than their own self interests.

At 600k+ deaths I want you to list me more destructive events in American history. Theres like 2 I think?

Covid was neither of those things. Statistically, Covid is a beefed up flu.

Dude... stfu about the flu. You know nothing about influenza. Pandemic influenza remains one of the greatest threats to human civilization.


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Shadow Don posted...

At 600k+ deaths I want you to list me more destructive events in American history. Theres like 2 I think?

More people still died of heart disease but you still dont see us banning crappy foods to save them. Think of how many lives we could save that way.
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many many more people died from a bad diet indeed, addictive unhealthy food should be banned

The only thing that will unify this country is if China invades Hawaii, and depending on who is in office I'm not sure THAT will do it.

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i had a glimmer of hope that the whole world would unify in battling this pandemic.

then i realized that hope is for fools...

hope is the opiate of the dismayed and despaired

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Godnorgosh posted...

You know COVID doesn't affect everyone the same way, right? But this is entirely in line with your solipsistic kind of thinking about issues, if it's not a problem for you it doesn't matter or exist.

dont be mad just because i told you off in that other topic. He raised his own anecdote, then i did mine. Simple as that. If you wanna be toxic and make it about a character flaw in me, ill block you lmao. I have zero tolerance for toxicity or people who only assume negative/bad intentiond

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Cuticrusader09 posted...

More people still died of heart disease but you still dont see us banning crappy foods to save them. Think of how many lives we could save that way.

Unlike cancer and heart disease, Covid isn't a broad category of diseases that are an unavailable consequence of humanity up until the moment we discovery immortality. Heart disease also kills more per Americans per year than WW2. I guess WW2 wasn't a big deal then?

Both WW2 and Covid were/are acute threats that require an organized and dramatic response.

Also, we actually do respond to acute causes of heart disease and cancer. The US has made some pretty significant policy decisions in an attempt to curb the use of smoking for instance.

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