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UnfairRepresent
11/14/21 3:59:22 AM
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Every single kid has a wand.

No fucking way a couple of them don't "try out" the illegal curses everyone talks about.

Not to mention guys like levitating their friends (or enemies) off cliffs and then fucking up the spell and dropping them

And you just know that creepy guy from Slytherin is going to use the mind control curse on that really hot Ravenclaw chick he obsesses over.

Come to think of it, imagine what would have happened if Gilderoy Lockhart was still the Dark Arts teacher during the last couple of books.

Would have been hilarious to see him deal with the evil Voldemort guys. Maybe oblivate Harry and claim credit for stopping Voldemort.

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g0ldie
11/14/21 4:02:19 AM
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I've seen the movies years ago, but I don't remember much of the world building - are there any general spells in place to help protect the kids at the school?

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Tropicalwood
11/14/21 4:05:07 AM
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Probably more horribly disfigured kids from their inability to properly pronounce a spell, or putting just a tad too many drops of wolf bane extract.

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UnfairRepresent
11/14/21 4:05:58 AM
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g0ldie posted...
I've seen the movies years ago, but I don't remember much of the world building - are there any general spells in place to help protect the kids at the school?
no. quite the opposite

the school is crazy dangerous and students fuck each other up with curses all the time

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Sir Will
11/14/21 4:07:11 AM
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A lot.

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Kim_Seong-a
11/14/21 4:07:55 AM
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UnfairRepresent posted...
No fucking way a couple of them don't "try out" the illegal curses everyone talks about.

This would be largely irrelevant. An entire class could try to Avada Kedavra a single target and not even give them a nosebleed. Harry, at his angstiest and most hate-filled, couldn't even pull off a proper Crucio on Bellatrix Lestrange.

As for everything else? So long as you don't immediately die, Hogwarts medical care is OP. You could have someone shove a wand up your ass and secumsempra your entire colon, and it'd be like one week in the Hospital Wing with Pomfrey giving you weird looks as she dosed out your Ass Regrowing Potion.

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indica
11/14/21 4:18:49 AM
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Sir Will posted...
A lot.
These wizards should never be allowed near children...

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KaZooo
11/14/21 4:28:05 AM
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JK Rowling basically wrote as she goes. Every guilty of inconsistencies and not entirely thought-out settings, but HP is more apparent given how many parts of the society were included. Like why don't pigmen invade Diagon Alley?

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pegusus123456
11/14/21 4:29:11 AM
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Kim_Seong-a posted...


This would be largely irrelevant. An entire class could try to Avada Kedavra a single target and not even give them a nosebleed. Harry, at his angstiest and most hate-filled, couldn't even pull off a proper Crucio on Bellatrix Lestrange.

As for everything else? So long as you don't immediately die, Hogwarts medical care is OP. You could have someone shove a wand up your ass and secumsempra your entire colon, and it'd be like one week in the Hospital Wing with Pomfrey giving you weird looks as she dosed out your Ass Regrowing Potion.
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bulletproofvita
11/14/21 4:30:15 AM
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Ima leave this here...
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Twinklestar
11/14/21 4:31:53 AM
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Very sure kids can goof up inside Hogwarts if they want to, and nothing's gonna stop them. The school really has terrible protection against mishap.

Look at what Fred and George did all the time before they bailed out of the school, and heck, even Hermione, when she's only in her second year, can cook up a potion that she's not supposed to, without any teacher immediately getting alerted.

Or our main trio going into the Forbidden area inside the school and the only thing nearly stopped them was Filch and his cat, who failed to see them.

And all those dangerous animals Hagrid brought? How the hell did that even passed any inspection for safety......if there's even any.
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pegusus123456
11/14/21 4:37:05 AM
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Twinklestar posted...
Or our main trio going into the Forbidden area inside the school and the only thing nearly stopped them was Filch and his cat, who failed to see them.
In fairness, most kids aren't going to have access to a blanket that makes them completely invisible.

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UnfairRepresent
11/14/21 4:43:24 AM
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Twinklestar posted...
Very sure kids can goof up inside Hogwarts if they want to, and nothing's gonna stop them. The school really has terrible protection against mishap.

Look at what Fred and George did all the time before they bailed out of the school, and heck, even Hermione, when she's only in her second year, can cook up a potion that she's not supposed to, without any teacher immediately getting alerted.

Or our main trio going into the Forbidden area inside the school and the only thing nearly stopped them was Filch and his cat, who failed to see them.

And all those dangerous animals Hagrid brought? How the hell did that even passed any inspection for safety......if there's even any.
I guess they operate on the logic that all the students who die are just improving the gene pool by weeding out the stupids

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toreysback
11/14/21 4:44:09 AM
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pegusus123456
11/14/21 4:47:44 AM
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I suppose one charitable interpretation is that Hogwarts isn't that dangerous, it just seems that way to someone Harry's age. Like they talk about werewolves and stuff being in the Forbidden Forest, but the worst thing you see is...

Well, I'm now remembering that a massive hive of giant, man-eating spiders live there, so nevermind.

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1337toothbrush
11/14/21 4:58:32 AM
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How many kids die every year because chemistry is real?

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UnfairRepresent
11/14/21 5:01:26 AM
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1337toothbrush posted...
How many kids die every year because chemistry is real?
they don't teach kids science while walking on tight ropes above vats of acid while firing cannonballs at them

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1337toothbrush
11/14/21 5:02:00 AM
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School must've changed since I was there.

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LeoRavus
11/14/21 5:03:53 AM
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I remember watching that quiddich shit as a lad where they were getting fucked up hard.

I was like, in what universe would this be OK to subject kids to? Seriously, I think the whole concept was fucking stupid. I don't care if they know spells or whatever, they were basically dying right there in front of the school. lol

It made me hate the Harry Potter series.

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Back_Stabbath
11/14/21 5:04:26 AM
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"stay away from the third floor corridor unless you want to die a painful death" is a pretty good indicator of Hogwarts safety standards. Guess the school has a hospital wards for a reason. The threat of being sent to wizard Guantanamo bay should prevent serious stuff. Pretty sure the wands can be tracked like phones.

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LeoRavus
11/14/21 5:08:56 AM
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Back_Stabbath posted...
"stay away from the third floor corridor unless you want to die a painful death" is a pretty good indicator of Hogwarts safety standards. Guess the school has a hospital wards for a reason. The threat of being sent to wizard Guantanamo bay should prevent serious stuff. Pretty sure the wands can be tracked like phones.

Dude everything about the school was unsafe.

And kind of creepy if you think about it. It's like they were trying to kill off the weak so only the strongest wizards survive. There's no other explanation for it.

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BloodMoon7
11/14/21 5:10:21 AM
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There's a special ward in the wizard hospital for the incredibly magically fucked iirc. I assume that's where they get sent. Otherwise it seems magic can fix most of magic problems.

Levitating someone off a cliff without considering the danger is just stupid and you can't fix stupid. But it's essentially the same as regular muggle children playing near a cliff. Which you shouldn't do.

The books explain that simply knowing the forbidden curses doesn't mean you can cast them effectively. It's safer than guns! In terms of controlling people, a love potion seems more problematic. You can just buy them premade and anyone can use it iirc (you can ban them but it'd be like trying to ban alcohol probably)

They did teleportation and apparantly you can just get magic'd back together if you split like a banana, as long as they do it fast/you don't end up inside a wall.

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UnfairRepresent
11/14/21 5:14:10 AM
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BloodMoon7 posted...
Levitating someone off a cliff without considering the danger is just stupid and you can't fix stupid.
guess what kids are?

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BloodMoon7
11/14/21 5:18:40 AM
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UnfairRepresent posted...
guess what kids are?
What is parental supervision?

It might be slightly more dangerous but you could basically just confiscate the wand since they're not supposed to be using them without supervision anyway, as in it's an actual law (probably for this reason)

Otherwise it's like saying you should never let your kids do anything at all cause they might fucking die.

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Kloe_Rinz
11/14/21 5:19:45 AM
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LeoRavus posted...
Dude everything about the school was unsafe.

And kind of creepy if you think about it. It's like they were trying to kill off the weak so only the strongest wizards survive. There's no other explanation for it.
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UnfairRepresent
11/14/21 5:19:53 AM
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BloodMoon7 posted...
What is parental supervision?
278 miles away as the kids are at a boarding school with like 17 teachers, several of which are evil

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Kim_Seong-a
11/14/21 5:20:02 AM
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I mean your question is framed in a way that implies the number of deaths would be significantly higher than muggle schools. Plenty of kids die in real schools all the time.

If anything, the number of kids accidentally levicorpus-ing each other over a bottomless pit is probably offset by the number of drug and traffic-related deaths muggle kids get into. Muggle Tim shoots up heroine he could be fucked. Magical Johnny shoots up heroin and they can shove a bezoar down his throat.

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pegusus123456
11/14/21 5:20:25 AM
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Wizards are also more durable than regular people. It's possible they don't worry about their kids falling off a cliff because the kid would survive.

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UnfairRepresent
11/14/21 5:28:21 AM
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pegusus123456 posted...
Wizards are also more durable than regular people. It's
bullshit batman

JK flat out said the reasons wizards hide is that they would be curbstombed by muggles in a straight fight.

Sticks and stones break their bones and muggles have guns

Hell Dudleys passtime was routinely beating the snot out of Harry like a lion mauling a gazelle

When have you ever seen a jacked wizard or wizard MMA fighter?

Wizards are actually weaker than muggles due to their societal dependence on magic instead of physicality

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BloodMoon7
11/14/21 5:32:40 AM
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UnfairRepresent posted...
278 miles away as the kids are at a boarding school with like 17 teachers, several of which are evil
Well that's still technically supervision. Are they supposed to not go to school? It may seem particularly dangerous but so that's just their lot in wizarding life. They only stopped the competition between schools after a lot of casualties. You'd think a few casualties would discourage that but wizards are crazy.

Besides a lot of the danger in the books is just cause Harry showed up and plot needed to happen. It's probably at least 50% safer in ordinary circumstances. Also not a single teacher was actually evil at the time of their hiring, with the exception of Mad Eye Moody who was in pasta and debatably, Gilderoy Lockyourbrain. Squirrel was actually not evil when he was hired iirc, he became evil after.

Imo the biggest problem is Hagrid. He's very irresponsible, even before being a teacher you will probably live longer if you avoid this man. I'm surprised his dog wasn't a pibble.

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pegusus123456
11/14/21 5:36:50 AM
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UnfairRepresent posted...
bullshit batman
Neville was thrown out of a window when he was a kid. He was fine. Their average life expectancy is like 130.

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UnfairRepresent
11/14/21 5:37:58 AM
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pegusus123456 posted...
Neville was thrown out of a window when he was a kid. He was fine. Their average life expectancy is like 130.
Due to magic, not durability

If you shot Voldemort , he'd die

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marthsheretoo
11/14/21 5:38:26 AM
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UnfairRepresent posted...
bullshit batman

JK flat out said the reasons wizards hide is that they would be curbstombed by muggles in a straight fight.

Sticks and stones break their bones and muggles have guns

JKR also flat out said that wizards were a bit more durable than muggles.

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Kim_Seong-a
11/14/21 5:39:56 AM
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BloodMoon7 posted...
Imo the biggest problem is Hagrid. He's very irresponsible

Dumbledore: "I would trust Hagrid with my life"

Also Dumbledore: "Oh, yeah, now that we've definitively proven that Hagrid wasn't responsible for the Chamber of Secrets opening and the death of Moaning Myrtle, maybe we should allow him to buy a new wand and finish his magical education. Or....on second thought, no. That would be a terrible idea lmao"

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pegusus123456
11/14/21 5:42:34 AM
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UnfairRepresent posted...
Due to magic, not durability

If you shot Voldemort , he'd die
Hogwarts isn't an American school, we're not talking about gunplay being part of the curriculum.

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itachi15243
11/14/21 5:46:20 AM
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How good is healing in Harry Potter again?

I wouldn't be surprised if there was a lot of rape and crime, with a fuck ton of injuries from kids either being malicious or stupid, but the only ones likely to die would probably be quick and/or brutal, and mostly accidents.

I doubt any kid/teen is gonna waste years learning some forbidden mass instant death that might backfire on them when they can just stab, poison, or even just levitate people high enough.

Maybe the school shooter types might learn how to fling a bunch of knives around or mass levitate a whole group or something(which would probably not be often), but I think it'd be
way more likely for assault and sex crimes to be the more common problems.

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BloodMoon7
11/14/21 5:46:41 AM
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UnfairRepresent posted...
Due to magic, not durability

If you shot Voldemort , he'd die
Magical durability is still durability. Neville didn't even have a wand at the time, he survived by sheer magic alone. Wands and such are just how wizards effectively channel magic but it's not like they would've always had wands. Modern wizards are probably just nerfed due to over reliance on tools.

Voldemort would survive a gun even if he was unarmed. You know why this is.

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UnfairRepresent
11/14/21 5:47:20 AM
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pegusus123456 posted...
Hogwarts isn't an American school, we're not talking about gunplay being part of the curriculum.
wands are more dangerous than guns dude

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pegusus123456
11/14/21 5:52:32 AM
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UnfairRepresent posted...


JK flat out said the reasons wizards hide is that they would be curbstombed by muggles in a straight fight.

Sticks and stones break their bones and muggles have guns

UnfairRepresent posted...
wands are more dangerous than guns dude
Unfair being Unfair

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UnfairRepresent
11/14/21 5:54:20 AM
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Those two statements are not at all contradictory

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Ilishe
11/14/21 6:00:08 AM
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With great power comes great responsibility.

If you're a reckless dumbass you get what you payed for.

The people who are supposed to handle magic need to master themselves first.

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itachi15243
11/14/21 6:05:09 AM
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pegusus123456 posted...
Unfair being Unfair

Wands(magic use) is not a "straight fight" though

I think that's the point.

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UnfairRepresent
11/14/21 6:19:59 AM
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itachi15243 posted...
Wands(magic use) is not a "straight fight" though

I think that's the point.
He knows this . He's just too close minded to admit when he is wrong and apologise

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pegusus123456
11/14/21 6:23:45 AM
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No, actually, I do see what you were saying now. You referencing guns in that post threw me off since you're talking about a fistfight scenario in the rest of it.

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Ricemills
11/14/21 8:27:46 AM
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pegusus123456 posted...
Hogwarts isn't an American school, we're not talking about gunplay being part of the curriculum.

https://youtu.be/eFoX0i4Sm_0
it still won't use gun if it's an American school.

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TheChariot
11/14/21 9:25:52 AM
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Kim_Seong-a posted...
This would be largely irrelevant. An entire class could try to Avada Kedavra a single target and not even give them a nosebleed. Harry, at his angstiest and most hate-filled, couldn't even pull off a proper Crucio on Bellatrix Lestrange.

Didn't Lestrange tell him in that scene that pure hatred actually weakens the effectiveness of Curses and that you need to instead have a twisted desire to hurt someone or some BS? You'd still be right though, that a random at Hogwarts wouldn't be able to pull it off.
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Kami_no_Kami
11/14/21 9:46:56 AM
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Pretty sure the main sporting event takes place hundreds of feet in the air with children trying to knock each other on to the ground below. Also, they send kids in detention to the evil murder forest.

Lets not even mention the Triwizard Tournament.

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UnfairRepresent
11/14/21 11:38:32 AM
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Kami_no_Kami posted...
they send kids in detention to the evil murder forest.
yeah that was weird

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Smiffwilm
11/14/21 11:40:57 AM
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As far as the world is concerned none due the memory wipe spells.

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